BURNPIT: U.S. Politics, August 2022

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I guess there is also the possibility that Asshole *didn't* take this shit but was knowingly or unknowingly housing it there. A list was making the rounds of the people reportedly assigned to his national archiving (or whatever the position is called) and woof, talk about the usual suspects.

Not that I care about the GOP, but boy would they have solved so many of their problems if they had just removed him from office.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 12:53 (one year ago) link

You know what phrase came to mind yesterday when I was pondering how some of the more mundane, but required to be returned thing like Obama's letter to his successor, would be of use in Florida?

"Donald Trump Presidential Library"

hopefully they left enough material to stock this hallowed institution, when it's built

mh, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 13:13 (one year ago) link



"Donald Trump Presidential Library"

hopefully they left enough material to stock this hallowed institution, when it's built


It’ll just be torn and wet post-it notes written in sharpie.

Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 14:07 (one year ago) link

Whatever came of the stuff the FBI took from Rudy's apartment and office last April?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

Look, all I know is that surely there's no way ol' Donnie Trump can wiggle his way out of this one

your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link

I mean, surely this time we've got 'im, right guys?

Guys?

your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

*wriggle

Evan, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 16:05 (one year ago) link

ah! well. nevertheless,

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link

He can wiggle AND wriggle. He can also rattle and shake, like a big fat snake.

On the charge of being in this, trump is not guilty on account of his having wriggled instead of wiggled out of it

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

The preliminary appeal to the primary appeal is hereby scheduled for the year 2029

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link

wriggle it just a little bit

President Keyes, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

^^ beat me to it

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

so it seems obvious they're gonna go with the "planted evidence" the whole way, right?

everything about Trumpism from the very beginning has felt like an abusive relationship, or maybe those murder documentaries where a family member or spouse STILL don't believe they actually did it, because doing so would admit that a major portion of their life has been a lie, or realizing that even the people you love can pull the wool over your eyes

I know the Republican party has always been cult-like but Trump has taken it to a whole new direction, b/c now being a conservative means totally buying into this cult of personality even if it comes at the expense of your friends, your family, and your sanity. obviously we talked a lot about this on ILX over the last several years, family members who you just can't bear to see anymore and all that, but it's almost kind of WORSE from their end because they've put themselves in this position of having to play defense on everything every single day of their lives. first it's over half the country, which you can handwave away by saying they're all brainwashed by CNN or whatever. but then it's actual government officials, including the guys Trump handpicked for their loyalty, and every single staffer who immediately went on record the day they left that Trump was a sack of shit who lies about everything. now it's the FBI director, the one he picked because the last one expressed some remorse about singlehandedly throwing the election to Trump, and the FBI as a whole, laying all that "just comply and you have nothing to worry about" shit bare.

idk if the dam will ever break. not to go all Andrew Yang on this but if something actually does happen to Trump it's gonna unleash a real world of shit so we might as well prepare ourselves now. not saying they should go easy or work a deal or whatever. him and his cronies deserve life in prison for the shit they've done to this country. but holy fuck if something substantial actually comes idk how this country is gonna handle it

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link

This made me curious to revisit the famous tweet/meme; found this mostly pointless article about the phenomenon from January:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/19/eternally-unfulfilled-dream-trumps-opponents-this-time-theyve-got-him/

However it does sum up why I have 0% energy to get whipped up and involved in discussions about any new "thing". I'll casually track these discussions and news, but it's hard for me personally to even raise my eyebrows anymore.

Evan, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

xp

i'm sure everyone will be like "ok, let's take a deep breath. let's get some food. let's get outside for a bit. then let's home and let bygones be bygones and start builidng. back. better!!"

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

The GOP is a perpetual grievance machine which will act out whether The Libs take active strides to stymie their bullshit or impotently sit in stony silence. Fuck them, fuck their big fat phony crocodile tears, fuck their tacit threats of what'll happen if you mess with the bull, fuck every last one of them until they've either fixed their hearts or died. Bring it on, you little SOBs.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

^^^

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link

Booming posts, OL and frogbs. I've been in the fuck-every-last-one-of-them mode for two years and it's felt liberating

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link

There are real cult-like behaviors, for sure, but I also think the cult shrinks a bit the farther it goes into total detachment from reality. There is a level where yoking yourself to fundamentally unpopular ideas starts to take a toll. We are maybe seeing that on abortion to some degree. In Tennessee we're seeing it on vouchers and charter schools, which have never been demonstrably popular but our Hillsdale-besotted governor has officially embraced as core GOP priorities — without doing any particular groundwork to sway public opinion. I think it was a factor in Republicans losing a key seat last week on our local (and newly partisan) school board. You can use structural advantages to force through unpopular things up to a point, but past a point you start to lose legitimacy.

I don't know that that's necessarily a cause for optimism, because obviously what it reinforces is the drive to minimize actual public power — democracy — in whatever way you can. But I also don't take as a given that the future is nothing but a relentless drive to the right that ends in white evangelical authoritarianism, because there just aren't enough of them. Most Americans don't really want to live in the country that that would be. That's a fundamental challenge for minority rule.

*wriggle

*ooze

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link

I worry about Hispanic authoritarianism, evangelical or otherwise.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

CNN reported this morning that Trump's lawyers (one of whom was present during latest boxtaking, btw) are now saying that all documents were declassified before leaving DC---although prev reports mention them still being marked Classified, with no strike-through, which apparently (see that link I posted upthread about laws involved here) a President could use to de-classify, but this one didn't bother.
(CNN also reported this morning that Iranian plot to whack Bolton foiled by FBI; Trump and Trumpers won't be thrilled by that either)

dow, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link

documents were declassified, also we don't have them, also they were planted

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

Trump Boys Thrilled FBI Seized Documents, Leaving Dozens Of Empty Boxes To Play In https://t.co/tsKtFGjcPP pic.twitter.com/QSnnqUtsjr

— The Onion (@TheOnion) August 9, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

If I had a nickle for every 'the noose is tightening!' headline over the last five years

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

(I saw an interview with Bill Clinton years ago, where he said he was annoyed by the Slick Willie nickname, because everything seemed to stick)

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link

"Tricky Dick" would have suited him better.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 20:08 (one year ago) link

I lobbied heavily for "Mango Mussolini" but it failed to catch

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link

'Round these parts in spring '08 I christened him The Screaming Lobster of Hope.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

My friends and I regularly use "Mango Mussolini." Also "Cheetolini."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

I always liked Patrick Monahan’s “President Deals”

Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 20:31 (one year ago) link

xpost glad to hear it's gained some traction

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 20:37 (one year ago) link

Related note, but when did "TFG" become such a big thing when referring to him? I'm assuming it's short for "the former guy" without having to use his name, but I've been surprised by how frequently I'm seeing it on social media these days.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link

Pretty good op-ed about Fetterman's campaign tactics, and how other Dems should follow his lead:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/08/09/john-fetterman-tries-to-lure-rural-voters-00050352

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 20:49 (one year ago) link

xp lol at "former"

mh, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 20:49 (one year ago) link

maybe it's 'Total Failure Geezer'

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link

God bless our first openly gay President

Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

“Big, huge, strapping bear came up to me at the Continental Baths wearing only a towel and he said—he had tears streaming down his face—he said, “Sir,

Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link

xp lol at "former"

lol at me just now grokking the other options for that initial

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 20:58 (one year ago) link

Jon, I think “the Former Guy” was Biden’s way of referring to The Worst Man In America upon taking office, around that time.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

Big, huge, strapping bear came up to me at the Continental Baths wearing only a towel and he said—he had tears streaming down his face—he said, “Sir,

― Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, August 10, 2022 3:56 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I have no idea what this is about but am dying and kind of don’t want any context for it, it’s so fantastically weird on its own

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

(I’m imagining an ACTUAL bear, for whatever it’s worth, like a Grizzly)

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 21:26 (one year ago) link

what the hell do you think the continental baths is, a zoo?

(grim) pump track (wales) (map), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link

a truly inclusive bathhouse would welcome actual grizzly bears

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

Bear say 'sir' to me

They just don't come no better than a bear.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

Bear say 'sir' to me

okay, I can't stop giggling at this one

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 22:02 (one year ago) link


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