heck, maybe it was aliens
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 August 2022 17:41 (two years ago) link
that's the point.
more importantly, he says he is innocent. guilty people don't say that.
― President Keyes, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:41 (two years ago) link
guys I want to remind u of something
~innocent until PROVEN guilty~
ergo
if he has not been proven guilty in a court of law
that means he is innocent
and legally
that means he can no longer be investigated
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 17:42 (two years ago) link
Regular reminder to the Biden administration and the DOJ that much of the public will judge how severe Trump's misconduct is based on how severe the consequences he will face are, not the other way around!— Michael Tae Sweeney (@mtsw) August 12, 2022
"the power of positive thinking" case for the prosecution
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Friday, 12 August 2022 17:44 (two years ago) link
he's like the ultimate 1-dimensional chess player. his big scheme to squeeze Ukraine for dirt on the Bidens was just to call Zelensky up on the phone and say it outright while like 50 different people were listening. i would be shocked if there were any plan at play in his mind beyond some variation of "having this stuff makes me feel cool"
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 12 August 2022 17:44 (two years ago) link
It's kind of a shame, the one person reckless and wild enough to release secret proof of aliens also turned out to be the one imbecile so intellectually incurious he probably didn't bother to look. He probably just did the top-secret archives equivalent of googling himself all day.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:45 (two years ago) link
xpost The way I heard it put yesterday was that the DOJ is playing chess but he is eating checkers. Might have to credit Jennifer fuckin' Rubin for that one.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:46 (two years ago) link
agents left this behind
https://khristore.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/s-l1600-17.jpg
― President Keyes, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:46 (two years ago) link
Breaking on WSJ: FBI removed 11 sets of classified documents, including some marked as Top Secret, as well as information about the President of France, binders of photos, a handwritten note and an executive grant of clemency for Roger Stone.— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) August 12, 2022
BTW, it's one hour before deadline and nothing has been released/revealed yet. Probably because of the audit.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:52 (two years ago) link
Mon dieu, Macron!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:53 (two years ago) link
The man really loves the French Presidents.
― Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 12 August 2022 17:53 (two years ago) link
Didnβt he call Sarkozy (or Macron) randomly at the middle of the night just to talk?
― Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 12 August 2022 17:54 (two years ago) link
https://andrewsidea.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/bar2.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:56 (two years ago) link
Boom.The former President is under investigation for 793. (And obstruction). pic.twitter.com/WXQCVObQK8— emptywheel (@emptywheel) August 12, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 18:43 (two years ago) link
NEW via Breitbart: Trump under investigation per search warrant for:18 USC 2071 β Concealment, removal or mutilation18 USC 793 β Gathering, transmitting or losing defence information18 USC 1519 β Destruction, alteration or falsification of records in Federal investigations— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) August 12, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 18:45 (two years ago) link
if's the ufo stuff
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Friday, 12 August 2022 18:45 (two years ago) link
Someone should ask emptywheel if he is under investigation for violations of BOFA.
― doomposting is the new composting (PBKR), Friday, 12 August 2022 18:47 (two years ago) link
793 is apparently the espionage act.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 18:50 (two years ago) link
For those following along at home, 793 is a main Espionage Act offense, 2071 is purloining government records, and 1519 is destroying or mutilating them. https://t.co/vxmyFb4tpc pic.twitter.com/TB0xhySPOV— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) August 12, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 18:51 (two years ago) link
Breitbart: The document, obtained and reviewed by Breitbart News, shows that the DOJ and FBI waited several days after Reinhart approved the warrant to conduct the raid, something that severely undercuts the talking points issued by Attorney General Merrick Garland in a public statement on Thursday
Early in the article, it admits 'nearly three full days' and then goes on to repeatedly say 'several days'
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 August 2022 18:54 (two years ago) link
The first time I saw the judge referenced I thought they were talking about Judge Reinhold.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 18:57 (two years ago) link
more breitbart: " ...seems to indicate that the judge did not think this is so serious that immediate or urgent action was needed..."
This will become a talking point: the judge didn't think it was very serious
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 August 2022 18:57 (two years ago) link
let them talk.
he's not going to jail for ten years, more than likely, but this is definitely not a 'i can't wait to see Trump wriggle out of that one' scenario. if charges don't get filed, it'll be because they didn't find what they expect or the investigation didn't turn up what they thought, not because anybody leaned on them. Trump and conservative media is outright trying to get FBI agents murdered, I sincerely doubt any of them are going to show restraint.
he fucked up in a way he can't easily snap his fingers out of this time.
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:05 (two years ago) link
Breitbart breaking the story is literally the ep of South Park with Cartman showing the entire class the pic of him sticking his dick in Butters's mouth so he could get ahead of the story
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:08 (two years ago) link
lolY'know, fuckit, even if all that comes out of this is Trump being rendered ineligible to run for president again, I'll count it as a pretty major W.
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:10 (two years ago) link
Maybe the funniest breaking news article I've ever read https://t.co/7Eo0MtQK14 pic.twitter.com/YivbFJKr3h— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) August 12, 2022
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:12 (two years ago) link
βmuch of the public will judge how severe Trump's misconduct is based on how severe the consequences he will face are, not the other way around!βNo itβs worse as usual. Trumpists will only judge misconduct as negative if any negative effects will affect them PERSONALLY.That is the loyalty oath. βI donβt care that you did crime. I will defend or deny your blackest deed. I only care if your crime was against ME. Otherwise, fuck my enemies and make our side win.β
― Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:23 (two years ago) link
The longer receipt was signed by FBI Special Agent Jeremy Linton and the shorter receipt was signed by the name: βL. Grady Garyβ and includes the title SSA. It is unclear who that person is, and the handwriting is not the clearest.
Grassy knoll guy obv
― President Keyes, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:24 (two years ago) link
Trump apparently leaked the warrant to Breitbart. The DOJ had sought to redact or shield the names of agents involved. Trump took no caution. The Breitbart article has names of agents, which obviously puts a target on their back. Reprehensible. Trump needs to be stopped. Enough.— Don Lewis (@DonLew87) August 12, 2022
― StanM, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:27 (two years ago) link
yeah right wingers already going nuts because Linton filed an affidavit with the 1/6 committee
― President Keyes, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:34 (two years ago) link
that bit from breitbart - "as president he has original and absolute declassification authority" - is flat wrong, as i understand it - the current president can re-classify anything declassified by their predecessor. and also that "absolute" declassification authority does not extend to things like espionage-related material & nuclear secrets. if that is going to be their best argument, it will not get them very far.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:45 (two years ago) link
CNN re WSJ:
Federal agents reportedly seized one set of "top secret/SCI" documents, the highest level of classification. Agents took four sets of "top secret" documents, three sets of "secret" documents and three sets of "confidential" documents, the lowest level of classification, the Journal reported.
― dow, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:45 (two years ago) link
they believe taking a little Harry Potter wand and going "declassifiiiiiiiiied" is all it takes
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:46 (two years ago) link
FBI are so stupid... the docs they planted were already declassified!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:47 (two years ago) link
DECLASSIFIUS
xp
― thinkmanship (sleeve), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:49 (two years ago) link
it's been pointed out elsewhere that the crimes being investigated do not hinge upon the classification status of the documents
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:49 (two years ago) link
yeah, the whole declassifying stuff as I'm running out the door thing smacks of "Of course I can pardon myself"
― President Keyes, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:51 (two years ago) link
ya it's a tough spot because somehow I don't think "so what Obama took 33,000,000 pages of documents with him" is gonna stick either
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:52 (two years ago) link
esp since it was a completely different situation.
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:57 (two years ago) link
why has nobody investigated 311 yet
i'm going to a metal show where I know the , uh, Trump quotient is going to be, well, way above zero, and not looking forward to talking to anybody tonight.
my friend is working a country music festival and she's already worried about shenanigans or people harassing her about being liberal and shit, which already happens
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:58 (two years ago) link
also b/c he made his entire campaign in 2016 about handling of confidential information which led to him signing the law he's gonna get tried for lmao
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:58 (two years ago) link
as much as I enjoy watching all these idiots squirm, I'm really annoyed that he's back in the news... a year or so ago, he seemed to be fading away
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:59 (two years ago) link
real question is who's gonna prosecute him, the federal courts are full of Trump loyalists and if Congress has anything to do with it it's over
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 20:00 (two years ago) link
Really can't believe nobody ever made Biden/Harris "Fuck Your Feelings" T-shirts, except for, you know, the risk of getting shot.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 12 August 2022 20:01 (two years ago) link
another amusing detail: it turns out that Christina Bobb, Trump's attorney who suggested on various news shows that the evidence was planted and there was no nuclear info, is the person who signed the receipt received from the FBI
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 12 August 2022 20:02 (two years ago) link
I'm sure they used their FBI bedazzlers to get her to sign
― President Keyes, Friday, 12 August 2022 20:10 (two years ago) link
Yesterday I walked into a bookstore and overhead this guy who looked to be in his mid-60s just absolutely berating a cashier to the point of her being in tears. Fortunately another employee (probably a manager of some sort) came out and firmly shut him down and escorted him out.
I was not at all surprised to see that he was wearing both a "Let's Go Brandon" hat AND t-shirt when he turned around.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 August 2022 20:11 (two years ago) link
And Underoos, probably
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 12 August 2022 20:12 (two years ago) link