He’s an interesting guy!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link
its interesting how this complaint intersects with the mucks sitch
New: Twitter's former head of security, the renowned hacker Mudge, has come forward with an explosive set of disclosures to Congress and law enforcement agencies. One of those: that Twitter is lying to Elon Musk about the platform's bots https://t.co/XVsAKcygCv— Joseph Cox (@josephfcox) August 23, 2022
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link
They put “spam” in the headline to imply that but he’s a straight up security guy so I’d be surprised tbh
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 14:34 (one year ago) link
In the complaint, the lawyers for Peiter Zatko, widely known as “Mudge,” referred to a claim by Twitter’s CEO Parag Agrawal who said in a Twitter thread that less than 5 percent of users are spam or fake.
cld def see this whole public spectacle pushing him over the edge
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link
there are of course less charitable readings
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link
or more charitable idk maybe he doesnt want musk to own twitter
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link
funny situation to try to read the tea leaves cause theres obvs a huge annoying security guy dynamic at play too
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link
idk why I imagine Mudge is this guyhttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/geZoES9KQ-Q/mqdefault.jpg
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link
This is absolutely wild. I assume it’s true since it’s Mudge. But, for some perspective, for _anyone_, regardless of position, to use personal data, you need to generate your query, submit it with a questionnaire about the use and need for approval, and then you’ll get access for an extremely limited time. This entire process is all public to Meta employees and anyone can flag any request as questionable. I assumed Twitter would have something similar since I assumed the only reason we did this was because it legally mandated or something.
― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 15:28 (one year ago) link
wasnt theres some minor scandal with facebook workers easy access to user data a while ago
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link
2015: At the time, more than 16,000 employees had access to users' private data, the book said. Stamos suggested tightening access to fewer than 5,000 employees and fewer than 100 for particularly sensitive information such as passwords. He proposed requiring employees to submit formal requests for access to private data but received pushback from executives. Zuckerberg said changes on the matter were "a top priority" and tasked Stamos with finding a solution and giving an update in a year, the book said.
https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-fired-dozens-abusing-access-user-data-an-ugly-truth-2021-7
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link
This is absolutely wild. I assume it’s true since it’s Mudge.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link
I didn’t get the impression this thread was an unusual view internally when he was fired
I remember when Mudge had us send Twitter kernel and OS reports to a rando buddy of his in Texas.— Ian Brown (@igb) August 23, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link
He’s a very interesting guy though!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link
Hypothetically:If you got fired for poor performance,Disagreed,And then wrote 200 pages about how poorly your team performed and how you didn’t fix problems your were hired to fix,Is that just a regular self-own, or an autobiography?— Tom Hauburger (@thauburger) August 23, 2022
a chaotic and rudderless company beset by infighting, unable to properly protect its 238 million daily users including government agencies, heads of state and other influential public figures
which company isn't like this, though
― mh, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:05 (one year ago) link
I don't know if "didn't fix problems you were hired to fix" can be purely laid on one person if your team isn't given the wherewithal to actually make solid changes, though
also he could have been really bad at managing a team but really good at pointing out the issues
― mh, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link
in any case, bringing back strong 90s memories and remembering the time I almost got into hot water for sending someone CDC backdoor tools packages as a fake executable as a teen
― mh, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link
xp true but i do lay pretty much every problem (including comically bad leadership hiring decisions incl. this one) on jack. truly the stupidest tech ceo i have ever encountered. not even close. real iq of 85 vibes.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link
yikes mudge getting lit up
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link
pretty mudge
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link
having thousands of people with full twitter admin privs is terrible, doesn't mean those people had any ability to log into underlying systems, and tbh any org above a certain size, unless they've baked in upgrades and patches from day one is going to have internal systems that lag on security patches, etc. and companies "mitigate" it by just having very few things available outside the internal network and a layer of web app firewalls, etc. and then the auditors call it a day
this is still wrong and something an actual security engineer should scream about but eventually you get hoarse
― mh, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link
information wants to be free
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:45 (one year ago) link
I meant it’s true because Mudge has serious bipolar energy not because he’s an expert or whatever.
― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link
haha fair
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link
what does the wombot know
https://i.imgur.com/R7RbZRx.jpg
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link
Mudge Zatko is such a Pynchon name.
― Abel Ferrara hard-sci-fi elevator pitch (PBKR), Tuesday, August 23, 2022 10:16 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Mudge Zatko is absolutely a made-up Pynchon name, come on— 宋宇游 (@BenjaminPepys1) August 23, 2022
confirmed
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link
oh shit, I didn't realize Mudge was part of Beto's old hacker group
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link
the hackers who wrote essays about computers or whatever
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link
CDC! It makes me mad when I remember that Beto is cool.
― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link
https://imgc.allpostersimages.com/img/posters/sneakers-1992-directed-by-phil-alden-robinson_u-L-Q1E5G560.jpg?artHeight=900&artPerspective=n&artWidth=900
― (grim) pump track (wales) (map), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link
lmao
Jack’s dereliction of duty here is amazing pic.twitter.com/iyFuyoY2d3— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) August 23, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link
jack is a pimp lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link
I've gone through mudge's redacted whistleblower complaint and there are some really spicy sections that relate to ad tech + privacy + foreign intelligence... brief thread of what I think is most interesting (link to documents in tweet below)🌶️🐦🌩️⚖️🧵 https://t.co/IesSlGVFBd— Zach Edwards (@thezedwards) August 24, 2022
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link
idk how someone could be the ceo of two massive public tech companies at the same time
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link
kinda wild how he invented twitter and square
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link
Lmao
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link
cyber
What’s interesting is Q (Ron Watkins) said Jason Sullivan was able to rebuild this type of tool after Twitter was supposedly able to ban it https://t.co/XLjwt0jEtL— Bennett Tomlin (@BennettTomlin) August 25, 2022
― lag∞n, Thursday, 25 August 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link
“X will literally do y rather than go to therapy” has been sent to my Twitter phrase banlist
I'm super fascinated by this idea people have that "therapy" is some kind of trump card sneer that automatically wins all arguments. Definitely makes an winning tweet tho, and that's what it's all about, right? https://t.co/YUxvdM3EJy— Ian Bogost (@ibogost) August 31, 2022
― Alba, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link
they all need ~better~ therapists is my suspicion. (mine is great. what?)
― i'm intentionally vague, intending to front multitudes (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 23:13 (one year ago) link
I've only ever seen that where X is men and..well..
― nashwan, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link
its a joke? which is not actually about going to therapy lol
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 23:20 (one year ago) link
Tell me you’re x without telling me you’re x
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Thursday, 1 September 2022 01:46 (one year ago) link
Okay
― ✖, Thursday, 1 September 2022 02:34 (one year ago) link
dunking on someone isn’t the same as “winning an argument” it’s just goofing imo
― mh, Thursday, 1 September 2022 04:38 (one year ago) link
A couple weeks ago my account was locked for 24 hours because I tweeted "someone should hang for this" in response to a tweet talking about how an 80s cult film currently isn't available for streaming anywhere or in print on DVD.Yesterday I reported someone for a tweet in a thread about the jackson water crisis where they used the ableist r slur in reference to black mayors and said they were all city killers and twitter said the post was fine.Elon might as well already own the site.
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link
it usually takes weeks to hear back about reporting someone
i think i've done it about a dozen times, i remember feeling good about it later twice or so, the other times they either didn't respond or i missed it or something
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:34 (one year ago) link
ok the fact that Amtrak can just post "trains" and get 1000x more likes than their average tweet is deeply funny to me
― frogbs, Friday, 2 September 2022 02:55 (one year ago) link
trains are pretty cool tho? there's even a term for people who are really into trains; it may even predate twitter
a dude weeping about lobsters and carbs and getting 1000x likes is a new phenomenon, however, and presents a clear challenge to president joe biden and his liberal agenda
― mookieproof, Friday, 2 September 2022 03:52 (one year ago) link
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22274294-letter-decision-resolving-the-joint-motion-of-craft-ventures-man
In other circumstances, I might view entirely duplicative subpoenas served for such tactical purposes as problematic. Where, as here, the subpoena recipient Tweets the subpoenaing attorneys the middle finger and a video of someone urinating on subpoenas, I am less bothered by it.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 2 September 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link