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I don't hate Amy Shumer as much as a lot of ppl but boy her cameo in s2 of Only Murders was embarassing, praying she won't show up too often.

Shumer has kept me away from S2. She has that oily je ne sais quoi that folks like Fred Armisen and Ryan Reynolds also have. Keeps me far away from anything they show up in.

Schumer only shows up in the one episode of Only Murders.

I think she has a show on Hulu so it was a shitty little advertisement really

That show is surprisingly good btw!

Better off Beth? Beth before Dishonor? Life before Beth? something like that.

Life & Beth

nailed it!

Bataan Beth March

life and beth is really good, i watched that in one go.

She has that oily je ne sais quoi that folks like Fred Armisen and Ryan Reynolds also have.

Some thoughts under spoiler cut on latest episode of Women Who Have Too Much Screentime (Bad Sisters)

Obviously great to know that JP is finally dead, naturally they’re saving his actual death scene for the finale. I am doubling down on my Grace did it theory for being both plausible and thematically satisfying.

Was thinking a lot about Grace in this episode. Was thinking about the comment earlier in the season about how she was disappearing before the sisters’ eyes and how full of life and happy she is with her sisters, and how shrunken she is with JP. When he was trying to manipulate her into not seeing her sisters on her birthday, it was chilling, it’s a total classic abuser move but we’ve had time to see how the sisters’ relationship is so important to them all and it felt like watching him tighten the noose even more. The boiling frog nature of abuse is very like this, he undoubtedly didn’t start out like this and by the time Grace realised what he was all about, it was too late (possibly they had Blanaid then and she felt she couldn’t leave?)

So I really hope she killed him! I was thinking as well about how JP lied to her about Roger’s visit and she didn’t even question it - and you know that any one of her sisters would have seen what was up for themselves. I thought she might have spoken to Roger somehow and connected the dots, it’s possible she already did and was deep in denial until JP’s sneering forced her out of it? I really feel for Roger, sincerely hope he and Grace end up together, he would treat Grace as she deserves to be treated!

I’ve been away for the weekend and am very much looking forward to seeing the latest ep of Bad Sisters when I get home but now I am looking forward even more to unhiding gyac’s hidden text.

Tim I didn’t know you were watching! Look forward to hearing your thoughts!

finally got around to watching Under the Banner of Heaven which was really well acted and really irritatingly directed.

I totally loved it but thought it fell apart a bit at the end.

Just caught up with the most recent Bad Sisters. I'm going to guess that yes, Grace did it, and the final episode will reveal that she's been aware of all this horrible stuff all along and she just finally had enough, giving her really sad, tragic character a sense of positive closure.

Buying HBO/DC/Cartoon Network and gutting them every two months is certainly an interesting strategy by Discovery. Maybe the shiplap people can do some Batman themed shows to justify the purchase and remake a Baltimore row house featured in the Wire.

Re Bad Sisters, I don't think Grace has got it in her to kill JP, she's too much of a drip. I think it was the lover of the blonde sister that did it, she told him in bed how much better it would be if JP wasn't around and then he wasn't there when she woke up in the morning.

I dunno, that seems too obvious. The law of misdirection points to Grace. They keep introducing suspects, but she has the most to gain, narratively. They've gone through as much effort to portray her as a drip as they have to portray JP as a dickhead - which is to say, a lot, maybe too much - but letting her kill him returns her agency and restores her place among the sisters, all of whom have had their own turn trying to kill him already. There's only an ep left, right? They're not going to leave us hanging, but they don't have a lot of time left to right the ship. Speaking of taking up a lot of time, I have no idea what they're going to do with the brothers storyline. At this point there are so many deuses for them to machina.

We never found out what happened to the sisters’ parents did we?

There are a couple a moments when the sisters are all like “they can’t find out what we did!” and they are completely freaked about the exhumation so presumably they DID do it, rather than the boyfriend.. Though I have no doubt it will be far from straightforward

Wasn’t part of the implication that

…especially in the first episode, that they were worried about their attempts being exposed due to:

- possibility of Becka giving them away (for reasons we now know)
- the exhumation suggesting non natural rains which would drive a wedge between the sisters and Grace if anything came to light

And there’s at least one person with some suspicion: Gabriel. Plus I think that Roger may be a witness to the deed itself given that he says he’s leaving (to Grace) at the funeral. Basically you only need one person to crack, it’s all very precarious.

means not rains

As Thomas pointed out, once you took a look at it, there’s a whole load of weird recent insurance claims that are something that might get dug into if there was cause for suspicion, plus the incidents like JP’s “suicide attempt” that came to attention of outside authorities

I suspect they *did* think they did it, because they tried, but, like every other time they tried, they fucked up or failed. And then it will be revealed it was Grace. It's the ol' Murder on the Orient Express game: *everyone* tried to kill him. And yeah, there's room for more twists, but I can't imagine an ending more satisfying than Grace having done the deed. She gets closure *and* the money. Has her cake and eats it, too. Though again, no idea how they tidy up the brothers. Maybe Minna changed her will and Becka gets her money?

That’s what I’m thinking. It makes most sense this way.

i stopped watching after fifteen minutes of the first episode and i'm assuming that everyone tries to kill him but he dies of something unrelated to their efforts so they're all equally culpable but they're not and if i am right, please send my check to 106 IToldYouSo Lane

I love how the guy who runs the TV polls is the worst poster about TV on here

jokes on you, i didn't even post the poll this year! i should probably do that, so thanks for the reminder.

Re Bad Sisters, [show hidden text]

― lord of the rongs (anagram), Thursday, 13 October 2022 05:56 (ten hours ago) link

I dunno, that seems too obvious. [show hidden text]

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:23 (three hours ago) link

We never found out what happened to the sisters’ parents did we?

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― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:36 (three hours ago) link

Wasn’t part of the implication that

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― barry sito (gyac), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:43 (three hours ago) link

means not rains

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― barry sito (gyac), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:45 (three hours ago) link

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― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:47 (three hours ago) link

That’s what I’m thinking. It makes most sense this way.

― barry sito (gyac), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:51 (two hours ago) link

i stopped watching after fifteen minutes of the first episode and i'm assuming that [show hidden text]

― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:28 (two hours ago) link

tbh just seeing a bunch of spoilers would be preferable to this

based on reservation dogs, I think there's a limit at which if there's enough chatter about a show, that's a sign it's time to start a new thread.

too late! only one episode to go!

Yep if it was going longer I’d start a new thread - doubt it’ll have a s2. There wasn’t much chat about it on here before these last couple of episodes.

Bad Sisters - finale. This was GREAT

I am so happy to be right, fucking delighted for Grace and I love how so many little details from earlier episodes came back - her knitting, JP goading Eva for being “frigid”, burying him in his pyjamas! Nothing wasted!

Felt it was a good move to minimise Thomas’s screen time, the ending is one that works well, I don’t think Grace even minded selling that big house, it was a lovely metaphor for her leaving her isolation with JP and becoming part of the family again.

Bibi always great, I loved when her and Becka started laughing at the cabin and then Eva joined them.

People thinking Grace is a wimp - but she loves Blanaid and she loves her sisters and that’s why JP worked so hard to separate her from the latter, cos that’s the only way he would have total control over her. I knew Roger would be involved because how else was Grace going to do all that herself?

The scene at the end with the sisters at the table and the whole truth is great, I was tearing up watching them at the Forty Foot. What an amazing series.

all i want to know if if i should expect a check or not

all i want to know if if i should expect a check or not

i haven't seen it yet but yknow what they say about the journey vs the destination

as noted upthread, my sense of that show was that the journey was going to be packed with a great deal of egregious domestic sadism and intentionally overextended to make the series lengthy enough to justify budget/inflate length of watch time.
I love Horgan generally but she's fully capable of overindulgence. Bad Sisters immediately displayed all of her worst hallmarks and reeked of streaming's current chronic runtime bloviation. Plus it didn't seem half as clever as it seemed to think it was, so I'm curious if they opted for the obvious ending.

lol did you get all that from the first 15 minutes? astounding how eager some ppl are to absolutely shellack something they know little to nothing about. yeah it maybe could have been shorter... so feckin what? it's a brilliant show. someday you should watch it

I don’t really go with the shorter argument since a lot of the small seemingly meaningless details had payoff in later episodes, and also as I said upthread it was a joy to watch cos of strong casting and the believability of the bond between the sisters. I guess the time that went into that bonding and detail was too much for some people, even though there’s no way you can stick this landing without it.

lol did you get all that from the first 15 minutes?

the strong casting was obvious immediately and was a real draw, the writing's not bad either. I just can't cope with hatefulness or complete predictability and Bad Sisters had a lot of that going on from jump.

seriously though, is the ending of that show that

everyone tries to kill the husband but he dies of something semi-related/unrelated to their efforts so they're all equally culpable/non-culpable

seriously though, is the ending of that show that everyone tries to kill the husband but he dies of something semi-related/unrelated to their efforts so they're all equally culpable/non-culpable?
I'm genuinely curious if the climax was telegraphed from the start but not so curious that I want to invest ten hours.

not sure any of us are going to tell you tbh

ilx: where people who don't want to watch a show ask people who like the show whether they should waste their time on the show

I don’t care about his time, he’s deciding to waste his time shitting up this thread because idk he doesn’t get enough attention at home or something, and that’s nobody else’s problem? You didn’t like the show after 15 minutes? Ok, firstly who cares and is your fontanelle fully healed over cos you’re weirdly insistent on this? Just asking.

Honestly. People posting about things they like about the show and this creep is repeatedly posting I WATCHED FIFTEEN MINUTES AND I DIDN’T LIKE IT WAHHHHH like why indulge that for a second? Fuck off and stay there.

it’s too bad you watched all that shite instead of bad sisters tbh forks

catastrophe was good though of course

maybe if you watch dozens of shows at a time you have less patience for fat on your narrative bone but i don’t. i watch maybe a series or two per month max. i love falling into all the little details of a world, when it’s written, acted, directed and photographed well. keep in mind for decades tv was defined as “the same, only different” and that’s what each episode gives me. and trust me when i say this is head and shoulders above something like motherhood.

sisters > mothers

xp I really felt out of step with everyone I know who watched Catastrophe cos they really liked it and it just left me cold. I watched 2 series of it btw.