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Buying HBO/DC/Cartoon Network and gutting them every two months is certainly an interesting strategy by Discovery. Maybe the shiplap people can do some Batman themed shows to justify the purchase and remake a Baltimore row house featured in the Wire.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 13 October 2022 00:53 (one year ago) link

Re Bad Sisters, I don't think Grace has got it in her to kill JP, she's too much of a drip. I think it was the lover of the blonde sister that did it, she told him in bed how much better it would be if JP wasn't around and then he wasn't there when she woke up in the morning.

lord of the rongs (anagram), Thursday, 13 October 2022 05:56 (one year ago) link

I dunno, that seems too obvious. The law of misdirection points to Grace. They keep introducing suspects, but she has the most to gain, narratively. They've gone through as much effort to portray her as a drip as they have to portray JP as a dickhead - which is to say, a lot, maybe too much - but letting her kill him returns her agency and restores her place among the sisters, all of whom have had their own turn trying to kill him already. There's only an ep left, right? They're not going to leave us hanging, but they don't have a lot of time left to right the ship. Speaking of taking up a lot of time, I have no idea what they're going to do with the brothers storyline. At this point there are so many deuses for them to machina.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link

We never found out what happened to the sisters’ parents did we?

There are a couple a moments when the sisters are all like “they can’t find out what we did!” and they are completely freaked about the exhumation so presumably they DID do it, rather than the boyfriend.. Though I have no doubt it will be far from straightforward

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:36 (one year ago) link

Wasn’t part of the implication that

…especially in the first episode, that they were worried about their attempts being exposed due to:

- possibility of Becka giving them away (for reasons we now know)
- the exhumation suggesting non natural rains which would drive a wedge between the sisters and Grace if anything came to light

And there’s at least one person with some suspicion: Gabriel. Plus I think that Roger may be a witness to the deed itself given that he says he’s leaving (to Grace) at the funeral. Basically you only need one person to crack, it’s all very precarious.

barry sito (gyac), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link

means not rains

barry sito (gyac), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link

As Thomas pointed out, once you took a look at it, there’s a whole load of weird recent insurance claims that are something that might get dug into if there was cause for suspicion, plus the incidents like JP’s “suicide attempt” that came to attention of outside authorities

barry sito (gyac), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:45 (one year ago) link

I suspect they *did* think they did it, because they tried, but, like every other time they tried, they fucked up or failed. And then it will be revealed it was Grace. It's the ol' Murder on the Orient Express game: *everyone* tried to kill him. And yeah, there's room for more twists, but I can't imagine an ending more satisfying than Grace having done the deed. She gets closure *and* the money. Has her cake and eats it, too. Though again, no idea how they tidy up the brothers. Maybe Minna changed her will and Becka gets her money?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:47 (one year ago) link

That’s what I’m thinking. It makes most sense this way.

barry sito (gyac), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:51 (one year ago) link

i stopped watching after fifteen minutes of the first episode and i'm assuming that everyone tries to kill him but he dies of something unrelated to their efforts so they're all equally culpable but they're not and if i am right, please send my check to 106 IToldYouSo Lane

I love how the guy who runs the TV polls is the worst poster about TV on here

barry sito (gyac), Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link

jokes on you, i didn't even post the poll this year! i should probably do that, so thanks for the reminder.

Re Bad Sisters, [show hidden text]

― lord of the rongs (anagram), Thursday, 13 October 2022 05:56 (ten hours ago) link

I dunno, that seems too obvious. [show hidden text]

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:23 (three hours ago) link

We never found out what happened to the sisters’ parents did we?

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― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:36 (three hours ago) link

Wasn’t part of the implication that

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― barry sito (gyac), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:43 (three hours ago) link

means not rains

― barry sito (gyac), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:43 (three hours ago) link

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― barry sito (gyac), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:45 (three hours ago) link

I suspect [show hidden text]

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:47 (three hours ago) link

That’s what I’m thinking. It makes most sense this way.

― barry sito (gyac), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:51 (two hours ago) link

i stopped watching after fifteen minutes of the first episode and i'm assuming that [show hidden text]

― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:28 (two hours ago) link

tbh just seeing a bunch of spoilers would be preferable to this

na (NA), Thursday, 13 October 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link

based on reservation dogs, I think there's a limit at which if there's enough chatter about a show, that's a sign it's time to start a new thread.

dan selzer, Thursday, 13 October 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

too late! only one episode to go!

lord of the rongs (anagram), Thursday, 13 October 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

Yep if it was going longer I’d start a new thread - doubt it’ll have a s2. There wasn’t much chat about it on here before these last couple of episodes.

barry sito (gyac), Thursday, 13 October 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

Bad Sisters - finale. This was GREAT

I am so happy to be right, fucking delighted for Grace and I love how so many little details from earlier episodes came back - her knitting, JP goading Eva for being “frigid”, burying him in his pyjamas! Nothing wasted!

Felt it was a good move to minimise Thomas’s screen time, the ending is one that works well, I don’t think Grace even minded selling that big house, it was a lovely metaphor for her leaving her isolation with JP and becoming part of the family again.

Bibi always great, I loved when her and Becka started laughing at the cabin and then Eva joined them.

People thinking Grace is a wimp - but she loves Blanaid and she loves her sisters and that’s why JP worked so hard to separate her from the latter, cos that’s the only way he would have total control over her. I knew Roger would be involved because how else was Grace going to do all that herself?

The scene at the end with the sisters at the table and the whole truth is great, I was tearing up watching them at the Forty Foot. What an amazing series.

barry sito (gyac), Friday, 14 October 2022 12:20 (one year ago) link

all i want to know if if i should expect a check or not

all i want to know if if i should expect a check or not

i haven't seen it yet but yknow what they say about the journey vs the destination

Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 October 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link

as noted upthread, my sense of that show was that the journey was going to be packed with a great deal of egregious domestic sadism and intentionally overextended to make the series lengthy enough to justify budget/inflate length of watch time.
I love Horgan generally but she's fully capable of overindulgence. Bad Sisters immediately displayed all of her worst hallmarks and reeked of streaming's current chronic runtime bloviation. Plus it didn't seem half as clever as it seemed to think it was, so I'm curious if they opted for the obvious ending.

lol did you get all that from the first 15 minutes? astounding how eager some ppl are to absolutely shellack something they know little to nothing about. yeah it maybe could have been shorter... so feckin what? it's a brilliant show. someday you should watch it

Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 October 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

I don’t really go with the shorter argument since a lot of the small seemingly meaningless details had payoff in later episodes, and also as I said upthread it was a joy to watch cos of strong casting and the believability of the bond between the sisters. I guess the time that went into that bonding and detail was too much for some people, even though there’s no way you can stick this landing without it.

barry sito (gyac), Friday, 14 October 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

lol did you get all that from the first 15 minutes?

I did! i've watched all of five sharon horgan-led shows [pulling, catastrophe, dead boss(yuck), divorce, motherland] and she has a pattern, exacerbated by the current vogue for "middle class white lady kills somebody" dramedy. the trend for lengthening three hour stories to 10 is equally common and it has clear warning signs. It's okay if you like this of course, I'm not "shellacking" it! It just had obvious issues at the outset and i'm watching literally dozens of programs so I have some specific bars to entry, especially for a prestige and knotty maxiseries.

the strong casting was obvious immediately and was a real draw, the writing's not bad either. I just can't cope with hatefulness or complete predictability and Bad Sisters had a lot of that going on from jump.

seriously though, is the ending of that show that

everyone tries to kill the husband but he dies of something semi-related/unrelated to their efforts so they're all equally culpable/non-culpable
? I'm genuinely curious if it was that telegraphed from the start but not so curious that I want to invest ten hours.

seriously though, is the ending of that show that everyone tries to kill the husband but he dies of something semi-related/unrelated to their efforts so they're all equally culpable/non-culpable?
I'm genuinely curious if the climax was telegraphed from the start but not so curious that I want to invest ten hours.

not sure any of us are going to tell you tbh

Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 October 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

ilx: where people who don't want to watch a show ask people who like the show whether they should waste their time on the show

I don’t care about his time, he’s deciding to waste his time shitting up this thread because idk he doesn’t get enough attention at home or something, and that’s nobody else’s problem? You didn’t like the show after 15 minutes? Ok, firstly who cares and is your fontanelle fully healed over cos you’re weirdly insistent on this? Just asking.

barry sito (gyac), Friday, 14 October 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link

Honestly. People posting about things they like about the show and this creep is repeatedly posting I WATCHED FIFTEEN MINUTES AND I DIDN’T LIKE IT WAHHHHH like why indulge that for a second? Fuck off and stay there.

barry sito (gyac), Friday, 14 October 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

it’s too bad you watched all that shite instead of bad sisters tbh forks

catastrophe was good though of course

maybe if you watch dozens of shows at a time you have less patience for fat on your narrative bone but i don’t. i watch maybe a series or two per month max. i love falling into all the little details of a world, when it’s written, acted, directed and photographed well. keep in mind for decades tv was defined as “the same, only different” and that’s what each episode gives me. and trust me when i say this is head and shoulders above something like motherhood.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 October 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link

sisters > mothers

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 October 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link

xp I really felt out of step with everyone I know who watched Catastrophe cos they really liked it and it just left me cold. I watched 2 series of it btw.

barry sito (gyac), Friday, 14 October 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

Gaahhh I don’t get to watch the season finale for 10 days because Jenn and I want to watch it together and I’m in Devon for that whole time. I think it’s both great and really interesting and through the course of watching nine tenths of it there’s stuff I thought after maybe 2 shows (eg isn’t JP’s evil overwritten) turns out to be totally necessary for the weird wrenching confusion of watching the thing.

Tim, Friday, 14 October 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

That’s so good of you

barry sito (gyac), Friday, 14 October 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link

I’m basically a secular saint

Tim, Friday, 14 October 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

people who don't want to watch a show ask people who like the show whether they should waste their time on the show

Not sure why this is unreasonable! I watched part of a show, read it as contrived and stopped. People on this thread liked it and kept watching but several folks had the same complaints I did, so I came back to note those issues and ask if it was better than I thought it was. but you guys get really angry about television for some reason.

tracer, I liked Motherland quite a bit; if you didn't, that may give a good signal on where our dividing point on taste/patience with teevee lies.

i'm gonna go jam the last fifteen minutes of bad sisters through my fontanelle to see if i'm right about the narrative arc here and then come back to discuss it in depth with gyac. Subscribe to our podcast everyone!

It’s ok forks, I’m blocking you now so you can annoy everyone else with your worthless posts. Sorry about your life.

barry sito (gyac), Friday, 14 October 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

cmon gyac wouldn’t you love to know forks’ thoughts on moby dick? “i can see where this is going”

Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 October 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

I mean, if he stopped reading when your man wakes up in bed with Queequeg, that might have some entertainment value

barry sito (gyac), Friday, 14 October 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link

as it happens, i've read moby dick a few times (though i tend to skip the fallacious cetacean taxonomic stuff) and acted in two separate adaptations, so i certainly have opinions!

My worthless posts and terrible life aren't bugging me that much. Bad TV is an issue though!

Appropriate to the thread and this thrilling exchange, here's a trailer for the new two-part Peacock anti-Barney documentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj-7H0BVrVg

It’s ofc very cool as a survivor of dv to see a show w/coercive control as a major theme & plot point with female show runners and leads so airily dismissed based on vibes…but what did I expect posting about something I like on ilx?

barry sito (gyac), Friday, 14 October 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link

(though i tend to skip the fallacious cetacean taxonomic stuff)

forks always breaking new ground in being wrong

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 14 October 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetology_of_Moby-Dick

By the current taxonomy of Cetacea, the classification in Moby-Dick is inaccurate and incomplete as well, presenting only a fraction of the nearly ninety species of Cetaceans known today. In the case of some species, in particular the blue whale (which Ishmael calls the "sulphur-bottom whale"), very little was known at the time. The classification is thus heavily weighted toward whales hunted for oil and other uses, and presents a picture of the common knowledge of whales at the time of the novel. Since Melville presents the study within a fictional context, voiced by a fictional character in the narrative, it is arguable whether or not Melville intended the classification as a serious scientific contribution. One view is that Melville "roundly ridicules his own attempts at a scientific account of the whale" and "ridicules those who attempt to understand reality with the measuring."[4] Near the end of the chapter, Melville, alluding to Shakespeare's tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow speech, characterizes a list of whale names as "mere sounds, full of Leviathanism, but signifying nothing."

yes my point is who gives a shit, those chapters are bangers

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 14 October 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

Brad otm

rob, Friday, 14 October 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

"reading moby-dick to learn more facts about whales, i'm approaching the text correctly"

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 14 October 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

i assume you also liked the moment in s2 of the wire where they had a two episode digression about the history of paving stones

if such a thing existed yeah i’d be fucking down. the monumental amount of context that moby-dick constructs for itself is pretty much the fucking thing about the book that is good and innovative and makes it continually relevant to the tradition of storytelling

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 14 October 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

honestly all this nonsense would be avoided if you idiots would just just ~create a dedicated thread for this godforsaken show~

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 October 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link


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