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― def jeftones (Neanderthal), Thursday, 26 January 2023 01:43 (one year ago) link
I just finished the first book Leviathan Wakes and was amused to find that Holden is even more of a pretty boy dumbass in there than in the show. The way he ends up together with Naomi in the book is pure comedy - the show handled that much better imo (and is also far better in its treatment of women in general. Naomi is barely sketched out so far, Julie is mostly seen through Miller's POV *eyeroll*, and we don't meet Avasarala or any of the other main female characters until later books).
I'm actually glad I watched the show first cause I'm not sure I would have liked this series as much based on how the characters are portrayed in Book 1 - Holden is good but way too naive and impulsive, Miller is a washed-up asshole in love with a perfect young girl in his head. Yikes. It's a credit to the show and the actors that they managed to turn them into tolerable protagonists at all. The book's strengths were the space horror elements, the world-building, and Amos lol. still looking fwd to reading the rest though!
― Roz, Thursday, 26 January 2023 03:28 (one year ago) link
To be fair, a lot of the show was written by the book authors, so I guess they were aware of some of the book shortcomings themselves and rewrote them.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 26 January 2023 05:02 (one year ago) link
does anyone else find it jarring that Cas Anvar was a big enough asshole they had to drop him immediately from the show, yet they spend all this time in s6 being all emo about Alex's sudden death? I feel like they should've treated the character the same way and just said "oh well, fuck him" and never mentioned him again.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 16:48 (eleven months ago) link
coulda just began season 6 with "Well after hearing about all of that startling testimony against Mr Anvar I guess we can all say we're glad he's dead, yes?" and everybody looks straight into the camera.
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 16:53 (eleven months ago) link
That would work too. Naomi being shitty to Amos for "replacing" Alex with Peaches was a bit much. Like really who gaf?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 16:57 (eleven months ago) link
yeah, just drew more attention to things overall. plus she was a much more interesting character
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 17:01 (eleven months ago) link
There was really no easy way to handle that, they probably did the best they could. And I mean it's not the character who was problematic, so it was a farewell to Alex not to the actor.
― omar little, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 17:04 (eleven months ago) link
best way to handle it would be to move on instead of continually reminding us by trying to turn it into a plot point
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 17:08 (eleven months ago) link
I thought the bigger objection against bringing Peaches in was her entire quest to kill Holden
― mh, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 17:13 (eleven months ago) link
water under the bridge, who hasn't wanted to kill Holden at one point or another?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 17:15 (eleven months ago) link
Maybe but I don't think it was really that big a deal
― omar little, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 17:18 (eleven months ago) link
Thought they did the best they could, but I also still found it slightly odd. It was just a quick moment though, I thought? There's no good way to acknowledge the death of a character people loved from the books without making us think of the POS who played him on TV
Mythic Quest had a similar situation with F. Murray Abraham and had nearly a whole episode about him in S3, but I only learned of what he'd been accused of after watching the episode. Still makes it weird in retrospect
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:25 (eleven months ago) link
I don't remember that much emo time about Alex but it would have been much weirder to not acknowledge the tragic death of a core character.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 20:27 (eleven months ago) link
Yeah, this seems a deeply weird complaint. Actors and characters are actually different things.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 22:23 (eleven months ago) link
I know, it just felt weird to me that after dispatching with him and doing a bit of mourning last season, now we're back with tensions between the crew based around who is or is not feeling the loss of Alex appropriately. This is obviously something that wasn't originally supposed to be part of the plot and I think if they just skipped it the fans would be ok with that, especially since this is all taking place some months later. I can't remember what happens after the first episode, maybe this is the last we hear about this particular thing.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 22:48 (eleven months ago) link
I honestly just wish they would have replaced the actor. Shows have pulled that off in the past, haven't they? People would have gotten used to it. Because they wrote him out of the show even if they do ever pick anything back up again, they're going to have to deal with what they did to that character, when they could have easily explained a different actor with aging or whatever.
― beard papa, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 22:50 (eleven months ago) link
throw Michiel Huisman in there, that's his specialty!
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 22:58 (eleven months ago) link
He dies in a similar way in the books IIRC, not at the same point but out of the blue.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 22:58 (eleven months ago) link
now that is something I did not know, figured he just kept on keepin' on with his Texan BS
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 23:03 (eleven months ago) link
Oh no I'm misremembering, it was another character who died that way - they just cut and pasted the names.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 23:07 (eleven months ago) link
I don’t remember Alex dying in the books?
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 23:10 (eleven months ago) link
It was Fred who stroked out at the end of a high-g chase/battle.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 23:12 (eleven months ago) link
Xpost there
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 23:14 (eleven months ago) link
Yes: Milo has the correct answer
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 23:15 (eleven months ago) link
GOT re-cast the Mountain TWICE (i.e. they had three different actors playing him).
― Last of the Mojitos (Leee), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 00:23 (eleven months ago) link
so i saw this article a few days ago on mashable which made me think of a post here
taken me this long to try and post and also never tried linking to an older post, so lets see if this works
original post: Is anybody else watching The Expanse?
The clear cellphone thing looks cool, but it's so ridiculous. You can see the screen from the back! Especially silly when Miller is doing police stuff on his phone and trying to be stealthy.
and in new tech stuff. https://sea.mashable.com/laptops/31413/lenovo-thinkbook-transparent-laptop-hands-on-yes-its-actually-see-through
― H in Addis, Thursday, 29 February 2024 12:30 (three months ago) link
bah why didn’t you all tell me this game came out last year??
https://www.telltale.com/the-expanse/
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 11 April 2024 23:48 (two months ago) link
Oh shiiiiitttt!!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 12 April 2024 00:03 (two months ago) link
It's cool that it focuses on Drummer
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 12 April 2024 00:06 (two months ago) link
S2 E6 - Holy shit.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:46 (one month ago) link
For the Telltale game, I love the focus on Drummer but I hate how high the bar is for choosing correctly in order to avoid very unpleasant story line turns. I love hearing that actor play that character again, but right now I'm trying to decide whether to start over on the game or abandon it.
― fajita seas, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 19:36 (one month ago) link
Cara Gee’s real accent is very confusing in interviews IIRC.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 25 April 2024 02:54 (one month ago) link
Rewatching the show. Just got to S2E5 “Home” about Eros, Julie and Miller. What a great episode visually and emotionally.
― that's not my post, Friday, 10 May 2024 17:26 (one month ago) link
S3 E5 is one of the best episodes of TV I have ever seen.
Naomi's origin story.
A Tarantino-style showdown on the bridge of the Enterprise.
The last 25 minutes is edge of your seat tension.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 23 May 2024 01:51 (three weeks ago) link
The back half of S3 is wild - such a drastic shakeup. It feels like Holden activating the station should have been the end of a season and there was still half the season to go.
Amos and Alex are my two favorite characters. The former is the "Data" of the show, exploring his lack of humanity to show us humanity.
I love how the show is fundamentally a Star Trek show about exploration. It is gritty yet fundamentally positive.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Saturday, 1 June 2024 12:02 (two weeks ago) link