I guess it’s easier to keep the sewers from overflowing when 99% of people are dead
― better than whoever you are (gyac), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 01:22 (one year ago) link
I admitted I was doing it wrong! But lots of sewer networks rely on pumps and constant maintenance and fatberg removal or maybe blocked by thousands of corpses. I know a lot of hydro-generators can run for decades unmaintained after the collapse of human civilisation, but the electrical grids they feed need a lot of maintenance and repair work. Yes I am doing this wrong!
― calzino, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 01:57 (one year ago) link
LolI just handwave all that, if they don’t mention it I don’t care
― better than whoever you are (gyac), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 02:09 (one year ago) link
i didn't realize the random girl in the camp that joel sees when he has another panic attack was supposed to remind him of sarah until they showed a sarah flashback later on. it's been a while!
― 龜, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 02:12 (one year ago) link
I'm really glad they have been sparing with the flashbacks of her, cos it helps illustrate just how far Joel has had to shove her into the recesses of his brain to just wake up every day.
if this was a Paramount Plus Original she'd have been popping up every episode with Charlie Puth "See You Again" playing each time she comes on screen
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 02:16 (one year ago) link
they should’ve played the smashing pumpkins cover of “never let me down” instead of the weepy piano cover at the end. otherwise another excellent episode
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 02:56 (one year ago) link
otm! i love the pumpkins cover
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 03:11 (one year ago) link
Stayed up way toooo late last night watching e4 + e5.. I'm hooked.
Loved Kathleen as a performance - like a sadistic primary school teacher. We didn't see her die, and her onscreen fate was unsatisfying, so I hope that's not the last of her
― the forces of darkness making making us laugh ourselves into DEATH?? (dog latin), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 09:54 (one year ago) link
In pretty much everything she's been in, she was one of the best things about it.
― nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 13:06 (one year ago) link
I didn’t think that scene left any ambiguity about Kathleen’s survival!
― better than whoever you are (gyac), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 13:11 (one year ago) link
If it's possible without major spoilage - do we know where this season ends narratively? Will this season for sure take us up to the end of the first game?
― Brio2, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 13:49 (one year ago) link
Yes.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 14:10 (one year ago) link
Game 2 will apparently be split into two seasons, iirc.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 14:11 (one year ago) link
Interesting. I imagine they'll be tempted to milk it for more than 3 seasons. Kind of surprised they didn't split the first game into two seasons, feels a bit rushed already. That said, I do like that it isn't open-ended and they're working toward a conclusion of sorts unlike The Walking Dead sprawl. (I gave up on WD after two seasons or so, so what do I know... just seems to have gone on way too long).
― Brio2, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 14:19 (one year ago) link
I didn’t think that scene left any ambiguity about Kathleen’s survival!― better than whoever you are (gyac), Tuesday, February 21, 2023 1:11 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― better than whoever you are (gyac), Tuesday, February 21, 2023 1:11 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Hehe, well to me it looked like one of those screen "deaths" that point towards "aha, gotcha, she survived!"
― the forces of darkness making making us laugh ourselves into DEATH?? (dog latin), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 14:23 (one year ago) link
On reflection I think "People loved contractors" might be the best line in the show's entire run so far.
Not just because it's funny -- but because it speaks to the way that when everything's broken you have to / get to create a new world, and part of making up a new future is making up a new past
And this has something to do with parenting, too -- lots of people in the show insist in dialogue that Joel doesn't get to revise or forget his years as a murderer/thief/raider but .... maybe he actually does? Maybe Ellie gets to grow up in a world where Joel was a good guy doing what he had to do and people loved contractors.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 14:34 (one year ago) link
xp i mean it would undermine the premise of the whole show (ellie must be protected because she is the only one immune to the cordyceps) if kathleen survived as anything other than a fungus monster
― la vie wokisme (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 14:38 (one year ago) link
I am not sure we watched the same scene, Kathleen got fairly obviously mauled and the only reason there’s a cut there is cos it’s clearly a fairly gruesome death.
― better than whoever you are (gyac), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 14:43 (one year ago) link
It was pretty late at night when I saw it, so I may have just been being dozy. I was actually hoping for a slower more serendipitous demise considering what a terror she was - too good a character to just knock-off in just one episode, but if that's the way it is that's the way it is
― the forces of darkness making making us laugh ourselves into DEATH?? (dog latin), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 15:00 (one year ago) link
It's another example imo of spending a bit too much time on a character that is totally inconsequential, good actor/character or no. Because I do feel this season has been rushed, or at least has not been spending time on the more important stuff, which makes the more important stuff seem rushed. Not that this matters, everyone on this thread seems to be enjoying it!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 15:05 (one year ago) link
Xp I don’t necessarily mind that personally, sometimes a relatively small part like that can pack an extra punch precisely because the screentime is so short.
― better than whoever you are (gyac), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 15:16 (one year ago) link
it was a great episode, but two minor things just pulled me out it a little:
1) they just had two empty horses for Joel and Ellie when they were out on patrol? none of them were doubled up when they got back to down2) at the campus, Joel just lightly looped the horse's reins over a branch without even attempting a basic know. good thing nothing happened that might have startled the horse!
(obvs tiny nitpicks, I'm really digging this show!)
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 15:21 (one year ago) link
was annoyed that joel left the horse without his backpack
also, those are in general awfully small backpacks to have backpacked across the US with... guessing REIs/patagonias were the stores that were first looted?
― 龜, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link
This is why I hate posting from my phone, "got back to TOWN" and "a basic KNOT", obvs.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 16:41 (one year ago) link
Probably reading too much into it but was wondering if that that was a videogame type nod as in TLOU, Red Dead Redemption etc, hitching your horse basically entails just throwing the reins over a pole, branch, whatever
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 17:09 (one year ago) link
I think I read somewhere (and maybe horsey people know) that horses can more or less be trained to stay put if you just throw the reigns on the ground or in a tree, the same way a dog can be trained to heel.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 17:15 (one year ago) link
Just found out that one of the creators of The Last of Us rooted the story in his perspective on Israel’s occupation. He grew up as a settler in the West Bank and the story is largely rooted in a settler’s perspective on the futility of “cyclical violence” and I hate it so much.— James Ray ☭ (@GoodVibePolitik) February 20, 2023
― 龜, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link
Caught up last night, and it was good, although the best scenes were where it introduced new material (as has been the case for the whole series IMO).
― Shartreuse (Leee), Thursday, 23 February 2023 01:25 (one year ago) link
jon wrote:
1) they just had two empty horses for Joel and Ellie when they were out on patrol? none of them were doubled up when they got back to down
Right, that seemed odd, but to me, and this may or may not have been intentional, it symbolizes the level of closeness right before and after Ep 6's emotional peak. Before, they're each alone on separate horses; after, they're sharing a horse and Ellie is clinging to Joel.
― ernestp, Thursday, 23 February 2023 04:51 (one year ago) link
at the campus, Joel just lightly looped the horse's reins over a branch without even attempting a basic know. good thing nothing happened that might have startled the horse!
Watched it back and he kind of pushes the reins into the vee of the branch, which might have been deep enough to prevent the horse from getting away.
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Thursday, 23 February 2023 07:23 (one year ago) link
every time Gabriel Luna shows up I want to scream "look out, he's a Terminator!"
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 February 2023 02:22 (one year ago) link
I assumed he did it to keep the horse from wandering off by itself, but also to let it get away if something really bad happened. Surely you'd want the horse to be able to escape if there's proper danger?
― trishyb, Friday, 24 February 2023 13:33 (one year ago) link
^ that was my thought also
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 24 February 2023 15:47 (one year ago) link
Yeah, that makes sense too I suppose, I just was prepared for something to happen on that campus and, watching him do that, I couldn't help put picturing the horse getting spooked and leaving them well and truly fucked.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 February 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link
Wow, great episode.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 February 2023 03:18 (one year ago) link
Would love to actually see it if the HBO Max app weren't glitching/freezing. Internet connection speed testing fine but ep continually freezing
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 February 2023 03:30 (one year ago) link
Here we go.
Lol @ the "back in 5 minutes" sign
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 February 2023 04:04 (one year ago) link
boring ep imo
― k3vin k., Monday, 27 February 2023 04:34 (one year ago) link
I think we can all agree it was an episode.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 27 February 2023 05:25 (one year ago) link
whatevs you two bummertowns i’m w Josh this was a great episode lots of feels! and i really enjoyed seeing Ellie so happy, seeing what she lost etcmr veg and i had a wry lol at ellie listening to pearl jam’s riot act on her walkman. the apocalypse setting prob improves that album’s mood significantly lol
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 27 February 2023 06:43 (one year ago) link
and am i crazy or was the carousel playing some kind of calliope version of the cure’s just like heaven?
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 27 February 2023 06:44 (one year ago) link
Yeah it was
― nate woolls, Monday, 27 February 2023 08:57 (one year ago) link
Yes, it’s from one of those indie-music-for-babies albums.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 27 February 2023 10:39 (one year ago) link
My wife actually thought this was maybe the tensest episode yet. That's what happiness on this show has trained us to expect.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 February 2023 13:04 (one year ago) link
Did only late 80s/early 90s music survive the zombie apocalypse?
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 27 February 2023 15:01 (one year ago) link
Tbf, she was listening on a Walkman, right? So that means cassettes, which means the era of peak cassette, which means '80s and early '90s, right? Anyway, she was listening to early '00s Pearl Jam on her Walkman.
Would have been funny if all they had to listen to was copies of REM's "Monster," though.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 February 2023 15:22 (one year ago) link
This was the first episode I got bored and skipped forward through. Yeah, yeah, they're having fun, romance is blooming...when do they get attacked? Skip, skip, skip...OK, here we go.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 27 February 2023 15:47 (one year ago) link
lol, doubling down on the "we need *more* zombies!" side of the debate.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 February 2023 15:53 (one year ago) link
That's the thing — I'm not someone who wishes this show was The Walking Dead. I hated that show. It was more like, given the essential nature of this show, where everything always ends tragically, it was inevitable that they were gonna get bit, so I found myself sitting there thinking "when are they gonna get to the fireworks factory?"
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 27 February 2023 16:11 (one year ago) link
not to be one of those people – but how long would a cassette reasonably last for? some of the ones i had in the 90s do not sounds very good anymore (yes i went back and listened to them a few years ago).
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 27 February 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link