ok so i literally just unplugged my wifi for the last time in my hackney home (moving out forever tomorrow) then PLUGGED IT BACK IN to post this important thought
upthread i muse and lament on why -- when pondering how the alien came to be -- we have never yet seen a film that explores the nature of xenomorph society over several evolving generations. well buckle up fucklecups
i: the habsburg dynasty (cf edmund tweeting above, he is a poster but not a *poster* iykwim) has lasted for more than a thousand years, that's plenty of generations ii: the founder of the dynasty = RADBOT GRAF VON KLETTGAU (c.985-1045) iii: he is called RADBOT he is a FASSBENDER iv: qed it is time for the franchise to be good again, tales of the high rhine in medieval swabia is the shit that ridley loves
― mark s, Sunday, 5 March 2023 12:48 (one year ago) link
eduard not edmund sorry to screw up the lore
― mark s, Sunday, 5 March 2023 12:49 (one year ago) link
both prometheus and covenant are good, actually covenant is great
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 5 March 2023 16:32 (one year ago) link
http://www.tom.ledger.name/img/engineer.jpgbrad and tracer itt
― ledge, Sunday, 5 March 2023 19:26 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/LpibnKl.jpeg
― ledge, Sunday, 5 March 2023 19:33 (one year ago) link
never knew these movies were considered bad until recently, guess I watched them both in the glow of Ebert's Prometheus review
― sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Sunday, 5 March 2023 20:26 (one year ago) link
Is that some sort of powerful drug?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 March 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link
Drug + lobotomy
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 5 March 2023 23:16 (one year ago) link
I’m rewatching all these now (Aliens last night) and everyone I’ve mentioned this project to has commented how much they love Prometheus. Looking forward to re-visiting it.
― ryan, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 17:49 (one year ago) link
You know some weird people.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link
🤘
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 20 April 2023 12:53 (one year ago) link
Weyland's method of death in Prometheus is one of the funniest metaphor spurring action scenes in film
― mh, Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:20 (one year ago) link
time to rewatch ALIEN: COVENANT (2017)
― mark s, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:10 (one year ago) link
this was a mistake
― mark s, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:16 (one year ago) link
lol think i might only have watched this from like halfway thru the first time
i missed nothing
― mark s, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:30 (one year ago) link
the bit where David drops the black goo on an entire crowd of the progenitor species is still pretty amazing
― mh, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link
i'm bailing, i'm too sleepy for this nonsense
― mark s, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link
xpost Only good scene, surely. Well that and Fassbender telling himself how to handle his flute.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link
the flute scene
discovering david's weird art documenting his experiences hybridizing the aliens
the bit where david regurgitates his little alien eggs to put into the human embryo store
haven't watched it in a while and these still stick in my mind!
― mh, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link
I did like the design of David's lair. Film was pretty weak overall but had some good visuals
― Duane Barry, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:47 (one year ago) link
Lol I remember pretty much nothing of this one, except maybe the flute and also ... nah, I think that's it. I don't even remember the cast, beyond Fassbender. Maybe some Frankenstein vibes?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link
I watched Prometheus and Covenant for the first time a couple years ago. Viewed back-to-back, Covenant seemed like a gahdamn masterpiece in comparison.
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 21:13 (one year ago) link
That is the last film with the Xenomorph in so far isn't it? You might think if Prey can revitalise the Predator somewhat after a series of b movie takes on it something similar could be done with the Xenomorph. While trying to avoid that being an identikit genre in itself. Or somebody who didn't want to make schlock could step into the Alien franchise. I thought the premise of seeing the background of the story could have been handled a lot better. & it was the way that it was handled that was the problem. But I Think I did enjoy bits of the film when I first saw it and have now heard several people say its a really good film which isn't the way I remember it on rewatching it. That the stupid bits outweigh everything else, like.
― Stevo, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 08:31 (one year ago) link
There’s a TV series of Alien being (verrrrrrrry slowly) made, which caused a pause on any idiotic film projects for the moment.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 08:50 (one year ago) link
apparently there was an alien v predator series that was actually made and edited and then put on a shelf for 7 years (and counting)
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 08:54 (one year ago) link
I think the fundamentals of the alien are sound, the problem with most of the sequels is that they either lean too hard toward mythology (who cares?) or, more commonly, they're just astoundingly stupid/silly. The "Predator" movies, for example, are actually all mostly good. First is great, second OK, "Predators" not bad (iirc), "Prey" is good. Only outlier (crossovers aside) is "The Predator," which is terrible. "Alien" movies are suited to the same simple more or less horror movie/action model: drop alien in with people/drop people in with alien. I suppose the last couple Ridley movies get points for novelty, since the whole time you're asking yourself what the fuck is going on and why, at least when you're not rolling your eyes at how amazingly dumb the characters are.
Then again, thinking out loud, the alien franchise quickly backed itself into a corner, because the alien (even one) is simply too powerful an enemy. The awesome "Alien: Isolation" game got it right: you don't beat the alien, you *avoid* the alien while doing other shit, like fixing the ship or outsmarting robots.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 12:10 (one year ago) link
i may have missed one of the crossover films but am i right that there still is no 'Alien on the loose on Earth' movie? it would be so mega
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 13:11 (one year ago) link
Yeah, the second AvP film was basically that. I'm one of the only people on earth who thought it was decent (if deeply flawed). But you should probably go with the consensus opinion that it's a cinematic unflushed toilet.
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 13:22 (one year ago) link
= better than prometheus :D
― mark s, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 13:23 (one year ago) link
i’m going to invite you all to a double feature of Solo and Prometheus and explain in a very irritating voice exactly why each one is good, while we’re watching it
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 13:27 (one year ago) link
I never saw "Solo," but if it went the way of "Willow" on Disney+, would anyone notice?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 13:32 (one year ago) link
Well I'd have to find something else to do at 11pm every night of the week
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 13:35 (one year ago) link
You could watch "Free Solo," alone, while drinking beer from a red Solo cup.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 13:40 (one year ago) link
Still impressed that stupid Prometheus was basically the exact same plot as stupid Alien vs Predator, just with alien planet instead of Antarctica, and weird playdo men instead of Predators. Otherwise all the same (alien temple, messianic Weyland, fuckwit scientists, weirdly invulnerable female lead, etc).
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 25 May 2023 01:12 (one year ago) link
this fathead futzing around with origin stories and metaphysics when we could STILL HAVE THIS
The full-grown aliens were originally going to be transparent and their heads full of maggots. This was too hard to pull off though. And, originally, the alien Giger designed had eyes. He asked for the eyes to be removed when the effects team started building it.26/38 pic.twitter.com/j2LzIQ9E2Z— All The Right Movies (@ATRightMovies) May 25, 2023
― mark s, Thursday, 25 May 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link
original is 44 today, and this thread is grebt: i wanna see the robert altman version
― mark s, Thursday, 25 May 2023 19:49 (one year ago) link
Alternately, Tarkovsky.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:17 (one year ago) link
Alien with eyes definitely paved the way for his ELP cover:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0d/ELP_-_Brain_Salad_Surgery.jpg/220px-ELP_-_Brain_Salad_Surgery.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:29 (one year ago) link
This cover was from 1974, though!
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link
Oh shit, so ELP invented the alien! I may have been thinking of the Debbie Harry album.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 May 2023 21:06 (one year ago) link
Hahaha
The Alien was spawned on Love Beach.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 25 May 2023 21:07 (one year ago) link
they used the skull/eye socket version in alien: resurrection! pretty well, imo. the scene where the more-human alien is sniffing ripley/mom is creepy
― mh, Friday, 26 May 2023 04:36 (one year ago) link
There's a film, directed by Fede Alvarez, shooting as we speak. From the little info there is about it, it does sound like a Prey-style b-movie take
― Number None, Friday, 26 May 2023 10:30 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2edS2FlrK4
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:56 (eleven months ago) link