when he defames mccain i see clearly the thrill he gives his followers
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link
he's still got it
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 27 April 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link
A former colleague of mine grew up not far from Orlando and used to go to Disney World regularly. He once dropped acid and got off the boat in Pirates. They had to coax him out of the scenery. That was his story, anyway.
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 27 April 2023 18:19 (one year ago) link
saw some thing about how disney doesnt allow people to scatter loved ones ashes at the parks but people are always doing it anyway lol wild stuff
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 18:20 (one year ago) link
If my loved ones dump my ashes in the Magic Kingdom, I'm coming back and haunting their asses.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 18:22 (one year ago) link
thats how they got the haunted house ride
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link
my ashes are only permitted to be dumped on Tom G Warrior's head.
even if he dies before I do.
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 April 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link
Wow, the only thing more cringe than having your ashes scattered in a corporate theme park is having your ashes surreptitiously scattered in a corporate theme park because the corporation actively doesn't want people scattering ashes there.
Like I am reasonably fond of Fender guitars and Jim Beam whiskey. But if the guitar factory and/ot whiskey distillery did not want my ashes to be placed there, I would not want my descendants to actively go against the wishes of the business.
― pinot grigioriffic (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 27 April 2023 18:55 (one year ago) link
if you throw your ashes where they not wanted and someone eats or drinks yr ashes by mistake u got nobody to blame but urself
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 April 2023 18:59 (one year ago) link
A pair of students two classes before mine got expelled for getting caught tripping at Disney World.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 April 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link
I hope he rots in hell and soonThis was a grueling read and it breaks my heart that she hasn't had a romantic relationship or interation since this event.https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/26/e-jean-carroll-trump-testimony/
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:55 AM bookmarkflaglink
FYI, there is a rape trial happening against Donald Trump now.
― felicity, Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:13 (one year ago) link
Sadly, it is a civil suit, so he won't go to prison.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:37 (one year ago) link
Think the point's more that it's a bit jarring and uncomfortable for the posts after Lechera's to be lols at the man's quips and theme park talk.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link
theme park talk convo began well before LL's post
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:47 (one year ago) link
you gotta wait seven posts thats the rule
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:49 (one year ago) link
Yes I am aware Neanderthal, don't think that changes anything tbh.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link
I never found the guy 'funny' and entertaining to talk about, esp during his campaign in 2016 - yeah, we all didn't think he had a chance in Hell to win, but the ugliness and toxicity he was encouraging made me to distressed to enjoy any part of it. only cathartic LOLs at his expense when he was soundly defeated brought me joy.
I think the theme park convo emerged from one of many tangents that came out of bashing DeSantis. i don't begrudge that, we're all living in Hell right now and sometimes need a little diversion.
but yes it is worth remembering Trump is a literal rapist and monster and as much as we would love the guy to get his legal comeuppance, we'd all be better off if he just fuckin dropped dead
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:51 (one year ago) link
pretty sure everyone here knows hes bad
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:52 (one year ago) link
I think we all agree that his death will be the first good thing he's done for anyone else.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link
It's more to do with this theme park talk after that a link to that testimony was dropped yesterday.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:56 (one year ago) link
you guys should see some of the other stuff hes done
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:01 (one year ago) link
Guys your stale zings aren’t as important as maybe discussing the literal trial against him now, if you’re not interested then you’re free not to comment, but we’re also free to look at how eager people were to change the subject when that testimony was posted, and draw our own conclusions.
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:02 (one year ago) link
I can speak only for myself, I didn't mean to change the subject, the crosstalk is just sometimes hard to keep up with. I don't think anyone is interested in minimizing his egregious behavior, I just have zero hope that anything resembling justice will come of this latest trial.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:04 (one year ago) link
no ones changing subject lol get a grip
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:04 (one year ago) link
Justice would be him getting eaten by rabid jackals.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:05 (one year ago) link
im pretty sure im the one who hates him the most and understands how bad he is
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:07 (one year ago) link
Yeah whatever you’re so irony poisoned it doesn’t matter, I get it
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:08 (one year ago) link
xp Marla?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:09 (one year ago) link
Dud
― ꙮ (map), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:10 (one year ago) link
yes everyone who isnt behaving according to you thread rules must be poisoned ok
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:10 (one year ago) link
It is pretty easy to get jaded when this motherfucker does quite literally whatever the hell he wants and suffers absolutely no consequences.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:11 (one year ago) link
If what you're getting from these posts is "these ppl think we don't know Trump is bad" you're very much missing the point.
mamy xposts
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:12 (one year ago) link
lagoon, friend, you’re being an asshole
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:13 (one year ago) link
xp Thanks for the explainer.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:13 (one year ago) link
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Thursday, April 27, 2023 5:13 PM (thirty-seven seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
nope sorry im drawing the line here feel free to message me if you want to talk more
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:14 (one year ago) link
That was directed at lagoon, not you jim.
xpost
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:14 (one year ago) link
Peace
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:15 (one year ago) link
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, April 27, 2023 5:12 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
what exactly is the point here i looked back and i cant even follow the thread tbh
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:16 (one year ago) link
the important thing is to immediately assume bad faith
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:16 (one year ago) link
I just wanted to post about what he did to E Jean and how sad it made me that it affected her life so entirely. I don’t care if he goes to prison for it — I care that we never forget who he is and it’s also worth remembering how brave a person has to be to take him on publicly. E Jean Carroll had a pretty good life going and then this asshead came along in her 50s and assaulted her. Just wtf. That’s all.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:28 (one year ago) link
yeah its awful, hes awful, i hope she and others hes harmed can find some relief
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:35 (one year ago) link
It's extraordinary both legally and financially that E. Jean Carroll could bring this claim at all. A lot of mountains had to be moved to bring this to trial. Her testimony is harrowing and 100% credible.
― felicity, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link
Amanda Marcotte: https://www.salon.com/2023/04/27/e-jean-carroll-rape-trial-full-misogny/
― BrianB, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:57 (one year ago) link
Reading about this trial it’s the same old pattern that repeats over centuries cos it works. Trump’s lawyer is constantly picking holes, knowing that he doesn’t have to completely demolish the story (which he can’t) and just suggesting lack of credibility is enough, which usually it is. Women lie, they’re motivated by money, they do contradictory things, it doesn’t matter that my client is as prolific a liar as you’ll meet, what about her, what did she do. It goes from what he did to what she did, and there honestly is a point where these strategies are so well known, and yet people still fucking fall for them. Misogyny is so pervasive. I can’t imagine a number in the world large enough to persuade me to bring a trial against this man, let alone for this, if I was in her shoes. I imagine she must live in constant fear and although her transcripts read as calm, she’s had a lot of time to think about it and it’s just what happened. I wish her well but I fear the worst.
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Thursday, 27 April 2023 22:05 (one year ago) link
yeah i hope she wins a gets some money at least but the risk of bringing the suit is pretty big, like im sure shes effectively in hiding now and prob will be for a while
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 22:11 (one year ago) link
That article BrianB posted about the misogyny defense makes a good point about framing.
"The misogyny defense attempts to shift the frame from "did he do it?" to "isn't she annoying by making a fuss over this?" So many of us have been conditioned to dismiss women's voices that the misogyny defense still, in 2023, has a whole lot of power."
― felicity, Thursday, 27 April 2023 22:18 (one year ago) link
I wonder if Trump is gonna even make an appearance in the courtroom
If he doesn't, that will speak volumes to the jury
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 27 April 2023 22:36 (one year ago) link
He won't. It's part of the (flawed) strategy to subliminally suggest that E. Jean isn't someone worth listening to.
E. Jean Carroll expressed that she wanted her day in court and to tell her story. So that's her goal. I get it. Not everyone wants that but I think it's important to accept that being heard and seen is what E. Jean Carroll wants out of it.
It was heartbreaking to hear that, of the 2 friends E. Jean Carroll told about the rape at the time, one friend told E. Jean to go to the police (Lisa Birnbach - respect to her) and the other told her not to bother. Just shows you how powerful and internalized the misogynistic culture of victim blaming and shaming is.
― felicity, Thursday, 27 April 2023 22:47 (one year ago) link
I think not going to the police is tough because it’s not so much internalised misogyny so much as structural. Will the police take a person seriously? Will they leave a rape kit on the shelf? Will the person have to relive the experience and tell the story again and again while the police ask intrusive and painful questions? One of the reasons rape and sexual assault are so underreported is due to structural disinterest; it’s not that people don’t know they should go to the police but it’s more like, on the balance of probabilities will my life become worse as a result of this?I would never recommend someone didn’t report, but I’d also entirely understand why they didn’t.
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Thursday, 27 April 2023 22:53 (one year ago) link
Thanks for posting what I was going to post, gyac— there are plenty of reasons why people don’t go to the police in sexual assault cases, not all of them have to do with internalized misogyny and shame.
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 27 April 2023 22:56 (one year ago) link