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Friends, there are so many shows to fold laundry to, and many of them don’t rely on the remote being out of reach for viewers to slide into episode 2. Citadel as it exists now is barely entertainment. It’s an invitation to a hotel conference room, where people are about to sell you on a bunch of other shows they’ve got coming.

https://www.polygon.com/reviews/23700740/citadel-prime-video-review

A show this stupid needs massively charismatic actors to pull it off. Priyanka Chopra and Stanley Tucci can do it, but Richard Madden is way out of his depth.

Saw a trailer for a new AppleTV prestige sci-fi show “Silo” which looks pretty good… although the presence of a new prestige sci-fi show makes me concerned/frustrated that they still haven’t followed up new seasons of Foundation or Invasion, both coming up on two years old now.

Mrs Davis is weird af

is Silo perhaps an adaptation of the Wool books?

(yes)

Oh fab, enjoyed those books.

Think the second season of Foundation is coming in the next month or two xps

xpost silo, i was wondering when they were going to get made into a series. the books were great.

I only recently started watching Avenue 5 and grew to really like it - once you realise there aren't really any stakes and it's just daft, it flows a lot better. 2nd series poss better than the first.

― kinder, Friday, April 28, 2023 6:26 AM (yesterday)

yes!!!

Think the second season of Foundation is coming in the next month or two xps

― groovypanda, Saturday, April 29, 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Oh good. I’ll probably need to rewatch s1 before s2 as I recall it being hard to follow in spots at the time, never Lind letting a year or two go by in between.

Honestly the one I’m more excited about is Invasion. That show was way better than I ever would have expected it to be. I know they greenlit (and shot?) a second season but I haven’t heard a peep about a release date.

I thought Invasion was awful tbh.

Decent opening episode and then got progressively worse each episode.

Hmm well different strokes. It’s been so long now I don’t remember all the specifics but I liked all the different story threads and I felt like it had more depth than a show called “invasion” ought to have.

I made it halfway into the second episode of Invasion - deeper than the Billy Crudup retrofuturist thing at least.

Invasion was terrible, some good actors giving their all but the creators really had no clear idea what was going on in the world they created and were incredibly bad at communicating what they had come up with.

binged the entirety of beef over the last two days. really compelling if a bit nonsensical. gets a bit wilder and deeper than i expected

I had mixed feelings about Beef. It was indeed compelling, and I liked how it portrays the Asian-American pressure to succeed, could relate to a lot of that. but the characters were very unlikable, hard to really sympathize by the end. The show felt rambling at ten episodes too, eight episodes would have been enough

Beef was kind of a drag, ngl. Way meandering, unfocused, and overlong.

We watched the first ep, and I couldn't "buy into" it at all... the characters and their dialogue/actions felt contrived in a way that just didn't work for me (tho I know others feel the same way about The White Lotus and other stuff I enjoy, so it's just a matter of taste).

Watched the first episode of Beef, but I couldn't justify another nine episodes of free-floating hostility - at least right now.

Heads up on Who Were We Running From - it's basically a seven episode production from Turkey's luxury tourist office, but as awesome as Melisa Sözen stare is (her with Diamanda Galas could burn out souls) the actual crime and mystery part of the story just lurches back and forth to a dissatisfying end. Nevertheless I got pulled in for all seven.

Xps thanks for the Jury Duty rec - got a few episodes into it last night. Love Nikki the bailiff and Todd the transhumanist, both are totally believable characters, but Noah is pretty obviously an actor - feel like he would’ve been a dead giveaway that something was up.

The A Bug’s Life scene was very sweet. Ronald is clearly a genuinely kind person.

Lol @ “you’re in Sonic? I heard it’s kinda shit”

Also, the plaintiff’s lawyer almost breaking character when the defense lawyer shows the animation had me lol-ing

xpost silo, i was wondering when they were going to get made into a series. the books were great.

― that's not my post, Saturday, April 29, 2023 1:36 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

I remember thinking that the Wool books seemed to have the plot beats of a tv show already, so the adaptation probably wouldn't be so difficult.

Reading that bit on the Grimes thread about "The Mission" is making me think Silo is going to seem too on the nose.

How many Wool books are there? I read the first one and thought it was OK. Definitely adaptable.

Love Nikki the bailiff and Todd the transhumanist, both are totally believable characters

In the interview my wife heard with Ronald, he said how impressed he was by Todd, since he had the room next to R. and essentially had to (or chose to) "stay in character" the entire time, even when filming wasn't going on.

I think there are 9 books in the Silo series

Silo has the potential to look really cool and ‘70s sci-fi dystopia but I’m not getting my hopes up for the look of an Apple series after Foundation.

> I think there are 9 books in the Silo series

it's a trilogy but i know Shift (book 2) is often listed as three parts. something to do with the way he published it.

oh, wikipedia says Wool is books 1-5, Shift is books 6 - 8 and Dust is book 9

my Wool is 476 pages, and Shift is exactly the same at 476 pages. i've not read the 3rd part (i thought the second part kinda spoilt the first part, which worked great as a standalone)

oh, and Wool is in the amazon monthly deal in the UK this month for 99p

Yeah there are four books. I liked the series though the last one not so much. There are short stories that are part of the first three books continuity in the apocalypse story collection edited by Hugh Howey, they give some background about the series setting that I personally liked.

Sorry I mean three, I mentally included Sand (not part of the series). That was the one I didn’t like much. The trilogy is good!

do apple tv things ever make it to dvd?

I think Severance is on DVD at least

https://www.imore.com/music-movies-tv/apple-tv/massively-popular-apple-tv-shows-are-coming-to-blu-ray-and-dvd-soon

For All Mankind is the only one I've heard of (and that'll be confusing given there's already something called that)

I never read the Wool books but my recollection is that this is one of those rare cases of something that started out self-published and became rather successful

(the Martian was similar iirc)

Morning Show was a big deal when it first came out... surprised I never ever heard of Truth Be Told.

Nice interview with James Marsden on NPR about Jury Duty. Definitely spoilers, but it's sweet.

BF went to line up latest Ted Lasso last night, I demurred saying I really wasn't feeling this season at all.

Turned out to be one of the best bits of uplifting TV I have seen in years. A really lovely episode.

As for Jury Duty we watched it all over a couple days and while I found it funny/entertaining, the ending left a bad taste in my mouth. This poor guy's been gaslit for weeks basically. I'd be paranoid as fuck if I was him haha.

I haven't seen the whole thing yet, but do they explain where they found him? I mean, at this stage there have to be thousands of potential reality show candidates of all sorts who have to know kind of what they're potentially in for.

They do explain it

Just finished, thought the show was sweet.

I got surprisingly teary at the reveal. The behind the scenes stuff was pretty funny - “Noah says he’s a racist - nah that’s too much” and then Ronald brings up the family guy ep… seeing the crew just lose their shit every time he surprises them.

One thing I thought was sad: after 3 weeks with these characters, he’d clearly really bonded with them, and then the reveal happens and now those ppl he became so close to kinda don’t exist anymore.

The scene where james is in the ph and says something about the role going to one of the Chrises cracked me up - I never remember this guy’s name because he looks like a Chris.

I've been enjoying Jubilee on Amazon Prime, an Indian drama series set in the world of film-making just after partition. It's a very high-end soapy drama and full of nice historical details. And if you are someone who doesn't do subtitles, the English dub is pretty good (although the lines don't match the subtitles, which is a bit confusing if you're one of those people who likes both dialogue and subtitles).

Unexpectedly (to me), a new season of The Other Two premiered last night... I had thought it was two-and-done, by design. There are some funny gags in ep. 1 – particularly involving filming with Covid restrictions – though the tone of the show feels even harsher in spirit than before.

started Silo on a whim, quite like it.

The Other Two is fantastic (haven't seen the new one yet).

Watched new episode of Other Two last night. Loved it. Funny to see Ken Marino who is basically the same character he is in Party Down, which also just came back w/ COVID gags.