has he just become part of the pantheon of evil alongside hegel and adorno and other unlikely pioneers of wokeness?
Bingo.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 May 2023 11:20 (one year ago) link
well that's boring. just more of the same old conspiracy mush like they turned hegel's dialectic into (which is something conservatives who really did care about the western philosophical tradition could actually work with, or through, or however it is)
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 11:49 (one year ago) link
We're talking hacks, not people who even pretend to have ideas
― two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:00 (one year ago) link
Even they couldn't deny Weltgeist is with China now anyway
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:11 (one year ago) link
Labour parliamentary candidate says this
The world is not listening.Sadly, the international community are captured by Militant far left campaign groups who have through bad policy, inflicted on the people of Yemen a permanent state of poverty of war.Successive UN Special Envoys have tragically all failed #Yemen. https://t.co/d0e6UymrmQ— Graham Jones xMP (@GrahamJones_MP) May 25, 2023
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:15 (one year ago) link
trolling
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:16 (one year ago) link
or gaslighting, or dancing on graves, or something
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:19 (one year ago) link
at least it's not something you say intending to convince anyone, it's like a flex
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:21 (one year ago) link
A form of political gaslighting like the "woke left blob elites" stuff, intended to create a sense of constant threat to real western values
― two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:25 (one year ago) link
re gramsci: the US wingnut thesis -- as developed by william s. lind and others, re "cultural marxism" etc -- is that the blob has developed the techniques of saul alinsky, a chicago-based "community organiser" who wrote abt gramsci in the 60s or 70s (largely misunderstanding him IMO but that's by the bye), effecting the fabled "long march through the institutions" (marcuse quoting mao? who tf knows) which e.g. delivered obama as president
a small but growing number of uk wingnuts are these days very plugged into this circuit (hence this dweeb wetting himself abt meatball ron)
is it trolling? i mean it's annoying bcz shite being pumped into the plumbing is annoying, but there's a good case these ppl are by now simply talking to one another
― mark s, Thursday, 25 May 2023 13:14 (one year ago) link
This guy is definitely not trolling he is just a swivel eyed zealot.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 May 2023 13:19 (one year ago) link
There's no clear distinction between repeating your narrative and "belief" imo. This is rhetoric not philosophy
― two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 May 2023 13:23 (one year ago) link
pic.twitter.com/TN3hM09L3O— Mike Graham đŹđ§ (@Iromg) June 14, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 12:27 (one year ago) link
Douglas Murray's perfectly level headed response to the report into racism and sexism in English cricket (just be glad it's paywalled).
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/01/the-left-now-wants-utter-abolition-of-britain-as-we-know-it/
― Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Monday, 3 July 2023 15:50 (eleven months ago) link
âCome off it, anyone would be treated like that if they wanted sex with younger person, even if he wasnât a minor!â I hear you type already. Really? While reading the latest from the Sunâs political editor, Harry Cole, about the âbombshell claims,â I recalled the time he tweeted excitedly about being in a coffee shop full of âjailbaitâ, and a gym full of âsixth form girlsâ (16-18 year olds). When I watched commentator Rod Liddle on BBC Newsnight defending the newspaper for behaving âimpeccablyâ throughout their reporting in the public interest, I recalled his article recalling that he didnât become a teacher because âI could not remotely conceive of not trying to shag the kids.âOver on Jacob Rees Moggâs show on GBNews, Kelvin McKenzie defended the Sun for its campaigning journalism on Edwardsâ case, despite the fact that while he was editor of the Sun he paid a 16 year old Samantha Fox to pose topless, publishing it on Page 3 of his newspaper. Over on TalkTV their International Editor Isabel Oakeshott discussed the âextraordinary parallelsâ between Edwards and Philip Schofield, although she didnât notice the parallels with regular TalkTV guest and paper reviewer Simon Danczuk, who was offered the job after resigning from the Labour Party following the revelation that he had been sending explicit text messages to a 17 year old girl. Unlike the Huw Edwards scandal, all of these involved minors, yet few have received the extensive and venomous vitriol or professional repercussions that Edwards have. Indeed, theyâre regarded as suitable, independent voices to comment on his case. They are all heterosexual.
https://huw.substack.com/p/a-sordid-scandal
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 July 2023 12:09 (eleven months ago) link
the Huw Lemmy substack article is really excellent. absolutely clarified some important things for me
― vexingvexillologist, Monday, 17 July 2023 17:54 (ten months ago) link
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GB News presenter Dan Wootton used multiple fake identities to trick and bribe scores of men into revealing compromising sexual material.The victims included members of the public, his own colleagues and a senior executive at News UKhttps://t.co/qzux8U19uN— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) July 17, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 July 2023 21:57 (ten months ago) link
This story hasn't exactly set the heather on fire yet
― Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 08:58 (ten months ago) link
Establishment media p likely to just ignore anything coming from the byline times, I'd think.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:00 (ten months ago) link
Don't know enough about byline times.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:02 (ten months ago) link
Oh I didn't mean they weren't credible, just that they're a self-proclaimed leftist news thing and that by itself means the establishment is likely to disregard.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:08 (ten months ago) link
What the Wehrmacht accomplishes in 1939-40 is one of most extraordinary feats of arms in human history. Itâs increasingly unhelpful that this is the sole prism by which to understand threats to European security. pic.twitter.com/V0xiYsuPH6— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) July 30, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 31 July 2023 06:23 (ten months ago) link
I mostly get all my bullshit ww2 takes from P Hitch these days says Bas!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 31 July 2023 07:40 (ten months ago) link
Important that David Baddiel now becomes a mainstay of this thread, I think:
https://nitter.net/I_amMukhtar/status/1686303796891103232
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:45 (ten months ago) link
he's such a moron, because he did blackface 30 years ago and was shellacked on twitter for it - the greater meaning of this is all white ppl are racist.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:58 (ten months ago) link
Can definitely see this cunt benn given some sort of government role if Starmer wins the next election.
― Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 14:08 (ten months ago) link
Iâve seen a few Centrist Conversations about this and apparently itâs Baddielâs detractors who are bullies?
― steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 14:25 (ten months ago) link
kind of incredible that david baddiel has just decided that he wants to be a public intellectual so we all just have to get out of the way and let him do it despite him being one of the uk's dumbest, most self-centred pricks
and in this media environment that's really saying something
― come on barbo letâs go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:25 (ten months ago) link
in case we missed this seismic baddiel news from earlier in the week:
David Baddiel is to write a book about masculinity entitled The Male Gaze.His extended essay will complete a trilogy of extended books following Jews Donât Count, which tackled antisemitism, and The God Desire, on atheism and religionHe said the starting point for the title would be that men can both objectify womenâs bodies and respect their minds.Revealing his plans in a major interview with The Times, Baddiel said: âItâs possible that men can hold two thoughts in their head. So men can, for essentially libidinous purposes, imagine and see women in this way, while not denying their basic humanity.âObviously women need to be CEOs and judges and politicians and prime ministers. Is it contradictory to also think, "I am interested in that woman physically"? Because I canât help that interest. Thatâs part of being a heterosexual male.âIt doesnât mean that I see her only as a body. I actually am listening to her as well and think that she should be capable of everything that a man is capable of. The problem is that those two things feel contradictory and, yes, I guess that is what I would like to write about.â
His extended essay will complete a trilogy of extended books following Jews Donât Count, which tackled antisemitism, and The God Desire, on atheism and religion
He said the starting point for the title would be that men can both objectify womenâs bodies and respect their minds.
Revealing his plans in a major interview with The Times, Baddiel said: âItâs possible that men can hold two thoughts in their head. So men can, for essentially libidinous purposes, imagine and see women in this way, while not denying their basic humanity.
âObviously women need to be CEOs and judges and politicians and prime ministers. Is it contradictory to also think, "I am interested in that woman physically"? Because I canât help that interest. Thatâs part of being a heterosexual male.
âIt doesnât mean that I see her only as a body. I actually am listening to her as well and think that she should be capable of everything that a man is capable of. The problem is that those two things feel contradictory and, yes, I guess that is what I would like to write about.â
― come on barbo letâs go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:31 (ten months ago) link
worth pointing out too that he wrote a book about atheism and religion in which he cheerfully admits to not reading many foundational works on the topic because he's smart enough to think about all that stuff on his own i guess
― come on barbo letâs go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:32 (ten months ago) link
âItâs possible that women can hold two thoughts in their head. So women can, for essentially libidinous purposes, imagine and see men in this way, while not denying their basic humanity.
âObviously men need to be CEOs and judges and politicians and prime ministers. Is it contradictory to also think, "I am interested in that man physically"? Because I canât help that interest. Thatâs part of being a heterosexual female.
âIt doesnât mean that I see him only as a body. I actually am listening to him as well and think that he should be capable of everything that a woman is capable of. The problem is that those two things feel contradictory and, yes, I guess that is what I would like to write about.â
If, as a thought experiment, Baddiel had reversed his statement in this way, then maybe he would have realised what he was actually saying and junked the whole concept. I guess that didn't happen, or maybe it did and he thought it was a good idea anyway.
― Scene report: Rochester MN (Matt #2), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:45 (ten months ago) link
i was just labouring to articulate this point when i realised you'd already made it
there's obviously a serious market for books about ideas written by entitled celebrities who aren't big readers
― Let's talk about local tomatoes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 16:33 (ten months ago) link
Some ppl don't want a struggle session with Hegel and this is ok.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 16:36 (ten months ago) link
This baby Michael Gove has been dying to be selected as a Tory candidate. He has a few delusions.
Had I ended up with a BA instead of a BSc, @FraserNelson wouldn't have taken a punt on me as a tech-proficient budding writer. Nor would I have had a half decent grasp of data. Nor would I think of clear writing through the lens of good coding syntax.https://t.co/smkbrBjqg9— Sebastian Payne (@SebastianEPayne) August 4, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 August 2023 09:08 (ten months ago) link
and yet he still hasn't cracked the formula for getting a parliamentary candidacy
― Let's talk about local tomatoes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 August 2023 09:15 (ten months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2rlFQVWoAAS5LG?format=jpg&name=small
I can think of some reasons why a right wing ideologue would hate Michael Rosen as much as much as RR does. Like for example he's a very nice guy who doesn't like fascists and he turned down an mbe and was a vociferous Corbyn supporter. But turning him into an evil anti-Semite feels like an arduous task that involves much self-deception and heavy duty lying and slander. I think what annoys RR the most is that he's very popular, even amongst some conservatives. Because he's witty and charming and kids love him.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 August 2023 18:44 (ten months ago) link
What is your definition of a kapo, o anonymous tweeter? (Just to help me locate myself in your worldview.)— Michael Rosen đđđđ (@MichaelRosenYes) August 4, 2023
he's got a good batting average against this kind of shite
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 August 2023 18:50 (ten months ago) link
... and he's Jewish.
― Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Friday, 4 August 2023 19:23 (ten months ago) link
that's just a minor detail these days in the right-wing anti-Semitism smear game. Someone who is Jewish and grew up with an awareness of missing holocaust relatives and is avowedly anti-fascist can also be an an anti-Semite.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 August 2023 19:32 (ten months ago) link
in Germany being Jewish means you understand antisemitism less than the German gentile perpetrators who have so nobly fallen on their sword for your benefit, and you'd better be grateful to them and defer to their definitions if you want to keep your job and social standing
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 4 August 2023 19:54 (ten months ago) link
(Germany is very much the vanguard of this sort of "philosemitic" antisemitism, much like Britain is the vanguard of terf ideology - it's hard to overstate how bad it is - way too many English speakers take their "remembrance" culture at face value without knowing how it's weaponised in practice)
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 4 August 2023 20:06 (ten months ago) link
I wouldn't expect any less from Germany
they took in 10000 kindertransport kids and then UK politicians decades later could chat shit about the proud history of offering sanctuary etc .. whilst black people were getting stripped of nationality and deported to dangerous countries where they would likely die. And Jewish ppl casually getting called kapos and anti semites (sometimes by goys) because they have criticisms about how the repellent UK 2 party system's drift to fascism is getting as bad as the US.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 August 2023 20:46 (ten months ago) link
yeah the Anti-Deutsch movement are a left wing pro-Isreal group that has a lot of sway in Germany, heard tales of bands turning up to play squats with huge Israel flags on the walls and Scottish bands being blacklisted for being "nationalists"
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 5 August 2023 00:07 (ten months ago) link
that's funny because the antideutsche are more rabidly pro US nationalism than the republican party - they quite literally take the nazi line on "who controls america" and add "and it's a good thing too" while calling anyone who dissents from this (incl/esp jews) nazi islamist terrorist lovers
they're fringe but in many ways just represent a more extreme version of german liberal common sense - I agree with them about the need to abolish germany because just look at this shit. moishe postone didn't die for this
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 5 August 2023 16:55 (ten months ago) link
all nation states are the enemy of humanity
― you're a sick man, Buddy Rich (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 August 2023 16:56 (ten months ago) link
true story
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 5 August 2023 16:57 (ten months ago) link
oh right this is about british right wing pundits. they're all bad imo
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/15/woke-eton-college-has-become-a-lost-cause/
I believe Etonians should provide a useful service to society by shaping public opinion, not by following it slavishly.
Honestly the Telegraph is like a whole other world.
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:40 (nine months ago) link
If all right wing institutions (Eton, the conservative party, the Telegraph) end up abolishing each other due to perceived wokeness I'll count that as a win.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:45 (nine months ago) link
I'm not clicking on that but loooooool at woke eton
― rob, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:28 (nine months ago) link