Hellabytes
― The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 17:01 (nine months ago) link
look forward to this being a round on UC next series
― kinder, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 18:26 (nine months ago) link
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0dwlxl9
― Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 18:28 (nine months ago) link
I think I must have known this at some point but I'd forgotten that Murdoch no longer owns Sky
― Alba, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 19:39 (nine months ago) link
The only thing I ever directly heard of being made of isinglass is curtains.
Only time I've ever heard of these is in "Surrey With the Fringe on Top", wtf are they?
― fetter, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 20:28 (nine months ago) link
I just learned that Long Cool Woman isn’t by CCR, but the Hollies
still unclear to me whether her dress is black or red #protomeme
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 22:34 (nine months ago) link
OK now I understand what "monster, monster" is, I only ever saw it as that skit in the Fast Show and was quite baffled, which I suppose anyone else would be by a skit saying "megalo megalo" or something.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 24 August 2023 00:49 (nine months ago) link
ps on isinglass, at first i was 'huh that's saruman's place did tolkien take the name from some proto-germanic script about fish bladders? because of course he would.'
― aeronimo is mad againe (Hunt3r), Thursday, 24 August 2023 02:27 (nine months ago) link
_The only thing I ever directly heard of being made of isinglass is curtains._Only time I've ever heard of these is in "Surrey With the Fringe on Top", wtf are they?
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 24 August 2023 11:18 (nine months ago) link
Bob Weinstock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mbCuFn3EH4
― budo jeru, Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:06 (nine months ago) link
wiki:
In the musical Oklahoma!, the song "The Surrey With the Fringe on Top" describes the surrey as having "isinglass curtains you can roll right down" although here the term refers to mica, commonly used for windows in vehicle side screens (but totally inflexible).[13][14]
hard to verify the source here, but sounds like it could be a case of Songs where the songwriter confuses A with B
having said that, a GIS for "isinglass curtains" brings up lots of images / retailers of the flexible plastic coverings that you'd put on a e.g. a boat
i would read a whole 33 1/3 book about Surrey
― budo jeru, Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:15 (nine months ago) link
Bonnie “Prince” Billy took the photo on the cover of Slint’s ‘Spiderland’.
― Dan Worsley, Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:19 (nine months ago) link
Can you surrey? Can you picnic?
― Hideous Lump, Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:33 (nine months ago) link
Bonnie “Prince” Billy's dad took the photo on the cover of Slint’s ‘Tweez’.
― there's no such thing as a winnable volume war (Matt #2), Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:54 (nine months ago) link
So it was the Old Photographer not the Young Photographer then (Jacobite joke).
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:57 (nine months ago) link
and bonnie "prince" billy himself is sitting in the tweez car
― wmlynch, Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:39 (nine months ago) link
Robert Burns wrote a version of "John Barleycorn" which was the model for most subsequent versions of the song. It was Burns who came up with that snappiest of lines, "John Barleycorn must die".
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Friday, 25 August 2023 17:57 (nine months ago) link
I think a few of Slint toured as Oldham's backing band in the early 90s when There Is No-One What Will Take Care of You came out.
― Stevo, Friday, 25 August 2023 19:09 (nine months ago) link
this week my external cd drive died.i still have a cd drive in an old XP machine that rips cds, but it's not connected to the internet of course.so, i have been using that and manually adding all the metadata which is a proper pain.then i find out about mp3tag.
― mark e, Friday, 25 August 2023 19:18 (nine months ago) link
The surname Tedesco means 'German' in the Italian language. Its plural form is Tedeschi. Carla Bruni's original surname was Tedeschi -- the only person I've ever heard of with this name apart from Susan.
― budo jeru, Saturday, 26 August 2023 20:31 (nine months ago) link
The word for (a) German is interesting in that it’s a completely different unrelated word in many major languages. For example:
English: GermanSpanish: alemánItalian: tedesco Polish: NiemieckiFinnish: Saksa
― Josefa, Saturday, 26 August 2023 20:45 (nine months ago) link
German: Deutsch
― koogs, Saturday, 26 August 2023 20:47 (nine months ago) link
The Finnish word is obviously derived from Saxon - like the Scottish Gaelic word for English speakers, Sassenach.
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Saturday, 26 August 2023 20:49 (nine months ago) link
Yes, although I researched that and found ‘Deutsch’ is distantly related to “tedesco.’ There was a word in Old German that was the ancestor of both those words.
― Josefa, Saturday, 26 August 2023 20:50 (nine months ago) link
xp
― Josefa, Saturday, 26 August 2023 20:51 (nine months ago) link
“Theodiscus” was the original word, attested Tobin 786 AD and meaning something like “of the people.” The French “teuton” is from the same root.
― Josefa, Saturday, 26 August 2023 20:56 (nine months ago) link
*attested to in
― Josefa, Saturday, 26 August 2023 20:57 (nine months ago) link
It's "Nemyetski" in Russian, which literally translates to "one who does not understand" or, maybe more accurately, "one who does not speak an intelligible language" (i.e., a barbarian).
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 26 August 2023 21:15 (nine months ago) link
a further connection to Susan Tedeschi is that the surname Allman ultimately derives from Norman French 'aleman,' which means ...
― budo jeru, Saturday, 26 August 2023 22:44 (nine months ago) link
interesting discussion tho!
― budo jeru, Saturday, 26 August 2023 22:46 (nine months ago) link
I have a curator friend whose last name is Tedesco— she’s wonderful
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 27 August 2023 02:37 (nine months ago) link
Don't you mean wunderbar?
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 27 August 2023 03:35 (nine months ago) link
Ha, excellent joke!
― The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 August 2023 03:35 (nine months ago) link
I was thinking Dutch was an externally imposed name people gave to a group that calls itself something else. Think they call themselves Nederlanders as in people from the Netherlands which is also what translates as Pais-bas in French.Wikipedia has it as a splitting of the original designation derived from theodiscus into Diets for the group of languages that became what the English call Dutch and Fresian etc and Deutsch for the languages still thought of as German. Both derived from Germanic sources.I had thought it was purely external and Brits had called a group by a term belonging to another one they'd mistaken them for. Does happen a bit. Insular country and all those people from over in that direction are all the same after all. Dutch just being an anglicisation of Deutsch like. & easier to say than Netherlander
― Stevo, Sunday, 27 August 2023 07:28 (nine months ago) link
I've noted on seeing Dutch written that it looks about halfway between English and German.
― Stevo, Sunday, 27 August 2023 07:30 (nine months ago) link
has no-one heard of Tommy Tedesco?
― fetter, Sunday, 27 August 2023 07:37 (nine months ago) link
*raises hand*
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Sunday, 27 August 2023 08:00 (nine months ago) link
Til about the Soviet air force disaster plane the TU 55. It was a single pilot bomber that was dangerous to fly, even more dangerous to land and killed loads of pilots, everything about it seemed designed to kill the pilot - even the ejector seat fired the pilot downwards out of the bottom of the cockpit! But the funny part was the pilots called it the "booze carrier" because the coolant system used an alcohol/distilled water blend that was not dissimilar to Russian vodka, so if they managed to survive a flight they'd drain the remaining gallons of alcohol out the craft to sell on the black market.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 27 August 2023 09:46 (nine months ago) link
I remember hearing the story among a bunch of other stuff about ineptness, poor training and corruption in the Soviet armed forces.Not sure to what extent that was propaganda during the end of the cold war and pre the dissolution of the USSR.I think there was one book I always meant to read on the subject and may be several others by now. Think i heard about it or the subject in general as a news item in the late 80s.
― Stevo, Sunday, 27 August 2023 09:59 (nine months ago) link
this plane was designed by the Concordski guy, not sure if he was a terrible designer or the Soviet system was all geared towards getting things done a bit too fast.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 27 August 2023 10:04 (nine months ago) link
James Ure OBE (born 10 October 1953) is a British musician, singer-songwriter and record producer. His stage name, Midge, is a phonetic reversal of Jim, the diminutive form of his actual name.
I dunno, I always sort of assumed he was called Midge, never thought about it tbh
― faust sofa (Matt #2), Sunday, 27 August 2023 12:38 (nine months ago) link
I assumed it was because he was small. I don't know if he is or not though.
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Sunday, 27 August 2023 12:59 (nine months ago) link
.. 5 feet 6 and a half. I suspect it was a dual purpose nickname tbh.
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Sunday, 27 August 2023 13:02 (nine months ago) link
Midhe Ure has more of a ring to it than Shortarse Ure I suppose, although not much
― faust sofa (Matt #2), Sunday, 27 August 2023 13:10 (nine months ago) link
Midhe Ure, is that the Gaelic version of his name?
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Sunday, 27 August 2023 13:23 (nine months ago) link
Maidhe (pronounced "Fred")
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 27 August 2023 13:32 (nine months ago) link
Every time I think of Midge Ure I think of Rik Mayall knocking on his door and calling him "Midge UEEEUUUURRGHHH" in Bottom, or Filthy Rich & Catflap whichever one it was.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 28 August 2023 01:41 (nine months ago) link
oh i'd love that, i'd be a mineral deposit, a ball of isinglass curtains inside a rock
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 28 August 2023 01:55 (nine months ago) link
If goldfish grow to fit the size of the pond they're in how big a waterway would you need to grow a fish that could provide curtains for Surrey? I mean, like.
― Stevo, Monday, 28 August 2023 10:12 (nine months ago) link
a neat summary of the previous conversation, but does it work with sturgeon
― Stevo, Thursday, 31 August 2023 09:23 (nine months ago) link