https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7EDFdA10pg?
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 18:30 (eight months ago) link
Yeah, that's the stuff.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 18:33 (eight months ago) link
💯
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 18:37 (eight months ago) link
this looks amazing
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 18:41 (eight months ago) link
If this is really the final Miyazaki film (and I feel like he keeps saying that and then making another one), I'm glad it has weird gloopy creatures and odd old women in it.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 19:40 (eight months ago) link
Wow! This looks intriguing
― octobeard, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:26 (eight months ago) link
Pretty rapturous first wave from TIFF
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 8 September 2023 15:30 (eight months ago) link
xp he's already unretired again, this is no longer the final one
― ciderpress, Friday, 8 September 2023 15:40 (eight months ago) link
A friend saw it last night, and told me that a. she bawled, b. it actually felt like Miyazaki’s final filmic statement
― master cushion (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 8 September 2023 17:59 (eight months ago) link
Spoiler alert: Both the boy AND the heron are pregnant.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 8 September 2023 20:45 (eight months ago) link
... how do you live?
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 8 September 2023 22:52 (eight months ago) link
I feel like he keeps saying that and then making another one
I'm happy to have more, but yeah, hasn't he been saying this for years? Apparently he's already pitching new ideas:
Hayao Miyazaki might not be done making movies.On a red carpet at the Toronto International Film Festival for the director's latest film, The Boy and the Heron, Studio Ghibli executive Junichi Nishioka told CBC's Eli Glasner that the animation stalwart is still hard at work."Other people say that this might be his last film, but he doesn't feel that way at all," said Nishioka through a translator."He is currently working on ideas for a new film. He comes into his office every day and does that. This time, he's not going to announce his retirement at all. He's continuing working just as he has always done."
On a red carpet at the Toronto International Film Festival for the director's latest film, The Boy and the Heron, Studio Ghibli executive Junichi Nishioka told CBC's Eli Glasner that the animation stalwart is still hard at work.
"Other people say that this might be his last film, but he doesn't feel that way at all," said Nishioka through a translator.
"He is currently working on ideas for a new film. He comes into his office every day and does that. This time, he's not going to announce his retirement at all. He's continuing working just as he has always done."
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 September 2023 22:55 (eight months ago) link
We should all be so lucky
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 8 September 2023 23:01 (eight months ago) link
Well, that was wonderful. I haven't teared up at a movie like that in a while.
Don't want to say much about it, but the animation is incredible.
― jmm, Sunday, 10 December 2023 03:17 (five months ago) link
just saw it! amazing. trying to settle on a favorite image to fall asleep thinking about.
― soup of magpies (geoffreyess), Sunday, 10 December 2023 06:49 (five months ago) link
#1 movie this weekend, maybe
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 10 December 2023 11:54 (five months ago) link
Deservedly. A lovely watch, very slow burn in ways but that makes its success all the better. Was able to catch the subtitled version but heard good things about the dub, which has a lot of veterans of previous Ghibli dubs.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 10 December 2023 14:26 (five months ago) link
I've seen this twice now: once dubbed and once subbed. It's hard for me to articulate the way this movie hit me; I am just grateful to live in a world where it exists.
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Saturday, 16 December 2023 15:01 (five months ago) link
Very envious. I can't wait to see this!
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 16 December 2023 16:17 (five months ago) link
It's wonderful.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 December 2023 16:19 (five months ago) link
beware the man-eating parakeets
I was surprised how much of this seemed to be drawn from Miyazaki's own life - it follows in that great storytelling tradition of children grappling with the horrors of the adult world through fantastical elements that reflect their turmoil.
― birdistheword, Saturday, 16 December 2023 17:40 (five months ago) link
Oh, it's out?!?!? I'm gonna go!!!
― i do, what’s wrong with that? so? what now? (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 16 December 2023 22:37 (five months ago) link
xp I also got the impression that it was quite autobiographical, on a few levels perhaps. Speaks towards creativity and world building in interesting ways, and it also felt the most "Murakami-esque" of all his films to me.
Unlike something like Spirited Away, which felt non-stop action packed and viscerally overwhelming, this one has a LOT of Ma in it. Also, due to that negative space, the foley work and sound mixing is incredible! I kinda can't wait to watch it again with some really nice headphones just so I can listen to all the rustling, scraping, steps and breathing again.
― octobeard, Saturday, 16 December 2023 23:12 (five months ago) link
btw I was referring to Haruki, not Takashi, if that wasn't already clear.
Also the architecture! So many styles, and it added so much to the surrealism
― octobeard, Saturday, 16 December 2023 23:15 (five months ago) link
Yes! to all of the above. I watched it again this afternoon and kept noticing all the great sounds - footsteps on wooden floors, fluttering paper, things collapsing.
I haven't thought about it much in terms of 'decoding' the film. I suspect that many of the sequences (the fish gutting) are in there because they make for wonderful animation.
― jmm, Sunday, 17 December 2023 00:58 (five months ago) link
So yeah this was great. We did it as a family outing, my kids are huge Miyazaki fans. We were all basically entranced by it. Interesting conversation on the way home with different interpretations and speculations about meanings and symbols, but also just awe at the sensory experience of it.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 17 December 2023 03:51 (five months ago) link
This line stunned me: "'Mahito'... which means 'sincere one'. No wonder you reek of death."
― jmm, Sunday, 17 December 2023 13:55 (five months ago) link
Same, I've been thinking about that line constantly
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Sunday, 17 December 2023 14:18 (five months ago) link
And the music.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 December 2023 14:32 (five months ago) link
Adding to that, the stretch of silences (musically mostly) near the start is remarkable. It also reminds me about how Hishiashi added more score to some of the earlier films because that’s what American audiences expected; clearly not the case here.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 December 2023 16:07 (five months ago) link
Exactly. In my review I stressed Miyazaki's career-long talent for silences.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 December 2023 16:13 (five months ago) link
Taking the Japanese title at more-or-less face value, it seems to me that the film is its own testament to how to live — with empathy and wonder.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 17 December 2023 16:37 (five months ago) link
I suspect that many of the sequences (the fish gutting) are in there because they make for wonderful animation.
― what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Monday, 18 December 2023 02:20 (five months ago) link
Hm, yeah, I think you’re right. Part of the ecosystem of the ocean world, where birds, fish, and human spirits seem to occupy the same cycle of consumption.
I’ve been wondering, is there a suggestion that the rowers who gather for the fish feast may eventually turn into warawara (which are something like the last, most reduced form of unborn spirit)?
― jmm, Monday, 18 December 2023 15:10 (five months ago) link
this is definitely his most abstract film and probably the densest, i'm not entirely sure what to make of it. it's decent but at times it was difficult to infer meaning from some of the abstraction and i'm not sure how all the ideas quite fit together
― ufo, Sunday, 24 December 2023 06:00 (five months ago) link
For me, it was sort of enough that it'd been 15 years since the world received a properly fun-weird-goofy-scary (at times) Miyazaki film. I was just thrilled to be back into the state of lulled, open-hearted acceptance that his films (excepting The Wind Rises) place me.
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Sunday, 24 December 2023 12:36 (five months ago) link
Plotting is not his strength, never has been. I don't let it worry me.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 December 2023 12:56 (five months ago) link
It was beautiful, and it hit strong emotional beats much more than I was expecting. The sense of grief ran through everything, in ways I often didn't understand. I need to see it a few more times, but it's up there with his best.
― Cow_Art, Sunday, 24 December 2023 13:15 (five months ago) link
and god the music
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 December 2023 13:25 (five months ago) link
He knows how to set sequences to music
Plotting is not his strength, never has been.
Not sure I agree with the 'never'. The plotting of Kiki's Delivery Service is so lucid and masterful you hardly even notice. I just see Spirited Away and The Boy and the Heron as operating differently. The Boy and the Heron in particular seems to be playing around with logical and temporal structures (old and young, life and death, dream and literality) in a way where you can sense the strain more.
― jmm, Sunday, 24 December 2023 13:33 (five months ago) link
You're right. I'd say this problem looked noticeable starting with Princess Mononoke.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 December 2023 13:35 (five months ago) link
I should note that my critics group voted TBATH the best film of 2024, and I'm still proud.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 December 2023 13:36 (five months ago) link
Most challenging part for me wasn't the dream world, but how sparse the human world story was. Loved that though.
― soup of magpies (geoffreyess), Sunday, 24 December 2023 13:42 (five months ago) link
I keep thinking that this must have some connection to The Tempest. The figures of the wizard and the Heron feel so much like Prospero and Ariel.
― jmm, Sunday, 24 December 2023 14:17 (five months ago) link
Enjoyed everything in the tower world, found the real world sections a bit slow. But it's not the first Miyazaki movie I've found slow at times, and accept that it's my issue rather than his. I've only ever truly loved one of Miyazaki's films (Spirited Away) but there's always stretches of brilliance to make them worth watching
― Vinnie, Sunday, 24 December 2023 14:52 (five months ago) link
I actually like the slow stretches of his films. Totoro is maybe his slowest in terms of much happening, but one of his best.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 24 December 2023 18:26 (five months ago) link
Great-uncle = Miyazaki himselfObnoxious dad = Goro, the disappointing offspringMahito = the idealised successor to the great man, who must overcome idle fancies and forge his own pathThe tower = Miyazaki's art, which must crumble to dust upon his demiseEvil parakeets = the criticsHeron = Toshio Suzuki (Studio Ghibli producer guy)
That's all I've got
― you have already voted in this dolt and cannot vote again (Matt #2), Sunday, 24 December 2023 19:58 (five months ago) link
I figured the rotating mobile of paper shards represented the critics
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Sunday, 24 December 2023 20:01 (five months ago) link