Israel to World: "Suck It."

The justifications for genocide go on.

Are you moving to Israel?

The people who mouth this shit won't be looking to "co-exist".

You are justifying genocide

― xyzzzz__, Monday, October 9, 2023 9:14 AM (seventeen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

If you think a two-state solution where jews can freely live in their state and palestinians freely can live in theirs is considered genocide you just aren’t smart at all.

Are you moving to Israel?

― xyzzzz__, Monday, October 9, 2023 9:16 AM (forty-four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

I visit from time to time. Great place you should try it.

I am the smartest because I don't even want borders.

So when are you calling Israel "home"? xp - you should live there. Suits you.

Easy to say, citizen of the world, you live in the ex-greatest colonial empire in history and no one of your way of life has never been on the verge of extinction.

You'll never guess what kind of rhetoric is popular in the ex-greatest colonial empire in history:

Disgusting from the editor of the Jewish News, Richard Ferrer, in the Express today.

He actually says "historic Islamic bloodlust, passed down through the generations from birth"

This must be retracted. https://t.co/hwD4fvVirx pic.twitter.com/HNqm55a3d6

— Miqdaad Versi (@miqdaad) October 8, 2023

Yes Fish and chips on a Friday night is my way of life, not genocide of Muslims. xp

I wouldn’t take the high ground on treatment of muslims.

We know you wouldn’t

However, thanks for the state.

I wouldn't make assumptions about other ILXors' backgrounds either if I were you.

Lol

Well if he isn’t British and that obsessed with british politics you guys should help him, no one deserves that fate.

However, thanks for the state.

― Van Horn Street, Monday, 9 October 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Man sure loves imperialism when it suits.

i've never heard jews preach that every muslim should die. i definitely have heard this from muslims. not that israelis should die. but that EVERY jew on earth should die. i guess that's the difference to me. i take world-wide tribalism on a case to case basis, you see. but the jew-hate might just be scarier to me because i have jewish friends and family and have grown up with jewish people.

hamas leader in 2019:

"If this siege is not undone, we will explode in the face of our enemies, with God's permission. The explosion is not only going to be in Gaza but also in the West Bank and abroad, God willing," Hamad said.

"But our brothers outside are preparing, trying to prepare, warming up."

He continued: "Seven million Palestinians outside, enough warming up, you have Jews with you in every place. You should attack every Jew possible in all the world and kill them."

"British" of course a synonym of "white" and impossible that anyone British could belong to an oppressed minority. Good work vhs.

but mostly i stay out of it altogether because i know how much leftie/progressive people hate israel and unfortunately i am SURROUNDED by leftie/progressives.

mowing 250 people down at a music festival is some pretty sick shit though, huh? 2000 years of history notwithstanding.

"British" of course a synonym of "white" and impossible that anyone British could belong to an oppressed minority. Good work vhs.

― Daniel_Rf, Monday, October 9, 2023 9:33 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

and some of you are literally refusing a people’s right to self determination.

could've just gone with "oh yeah, shouldn't have assumed this person is white" but you do you

No one is cheering on that Scott. Just made up people in VHS' head xp

I mean Israel have forcibly taken that land and are running a rave on it. They couldn't even provide security. Failed state.

could've just gone with "oh yeah, shouldn't have assumed this person is white" but you do you

― Daniel_Rf, Monday, October 9, 2023 9:36 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i was the under impression the person was from south america, so unless he is a native south american i don’t really care, especially since the person has yet to comdenm attacks on jewish civilians, refuted our link to our homeland, and played half the scale of antisemitic tropes.

doesn't excuse murder. mass murder. x-post

No one is cheering on that Scott. Just made up people in VHS' head xp

― xyzzzz__, Monday, October 9, 2023 9:36 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Plenty of people were cheering in the streets and in my hometown, the pro-palestinian movement called for a celebration for ‘this heroic attack’.

i definitely have heard this from muslims. not that israelis should die. but that EVERY jew on earth should die.

dude I've heard some opinions from "Christians" that may shock you

did you know what i learned? there are more Palestinians in Chile than there are in Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, or Egypt. #themoreyouknow

"dude I've heard some opinions from "Christians" that may shock you"

that they think all the jews in the world should die? no, i've heard that too.

scott, tbf, you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about and are engaging in deeply Islamophobic and racialised tropes right now

i wasn't raised tribally. my family weren't christians. we worshipped jazz. its ALL friggin' scary to me. don't get me wrong. doesn't matter what large cult it is.

doesn't excuse murder. mass murder. x-post

― scott seward, Monday, 9 October 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Who is doing that? I haven't condemned it. Doesn't mean I condone it. Similarly you haven't said anything about Gaza but I am sure you don't agree with putting two million dispossessed people in a concentration camp.

don't worry, i'm leaving. just checking the thread out. sorry i did. i don't hate anyone. or any group.

just saw on the news there will be a "complete siege" on gaza. sorry for everyone.

I am sorry too. Take care, Scott

likewise scott— sorry to get so aggro, am just frustrated.

otm re scary jazz tho

i was the under impression the person was from south america

If anything an even more worthless metric by which to judge a person's ethnicity and exposure to discrimination than "well he's british".

He love the British. Our PM is pledging more weapons rn. Can't wait to arm them even more.

If anything an even more worthless metric by which to judge a person's ethnicity and exposure to discrimination than "well he's british".

― Daniel_Rf, Monday, October 9, 2023 9:52 AM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Didn’t prevent him questioning if 700 civilians murdered belonged to where they lived, regardless of the exposure to discrimination it has not transformed into empathy.

Imagine if those people weren’t citizens of a state that enforces apartheid violence as a means of continuously justifying its own existence. Their deaths are on the hands of the very state to which they belong.

Cool another justification.

You sound like trigger happy israeli soldiers.

Didn't prevent him questioning if 700 civilians murdered belonged to where they lived, regardless of the exposure to discrimination it has not transformed into empathy

lol dude you're the one who brought up his background to try to score cheap points, if it doesn't matter you shouldn't have brought it up.

Didn’t prevent him questioning if 700 civilians murdered belonged to where they lived, regardless of the exposure to discrimination it has not transformed into empathy.

― Van Horn Street, Monday, 9 October 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Maybe the family of a few of the murdered moved there in the year 1000, or something.

lol dude you're the one who brought up his background to try to score cheap points, if it doesn't matter you shouldn't have brought it up.

― Daniel_Rf, Monday, October 9, 2023 10:08 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes continue defending an antisemite who is doubling down on showing zero empathy to victims of a
terrorist attack.

Do you guys were also cheering the murders in the Bataclan? French teenagers had it coming!

would be cool if just once discussion of this situation didn’t turn into an ad hominem olympics

go start another thread where you can shout at each other please

people are dying, good lord

I'm Oglala. I'm pretty sure if me and a bunch of my family went and murdered a bunch of random white guys in south dakota because they 'were on land that they stole from us 100 years ago' I would not have a shit ton of people rallying for my defence. or maybe I would? maybe I should go do that then.

“Right to self determination” is a lofty phrase that tries to paper over a lot of nasty shit that it entails. Particularly when your right involves kicking people out of their homes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/world/middleeast/israelis-watch-bombs-drop-on-gaza-from-front-row-seats.html
https://archive.ph/JflNj

“The hill has been transformed into something that most closely resembles the front row of a reality war theater. It offers a direct view of the densely populated Gaza Strip. People have dragged camping chairs and sofas to the top of the hill. Several sit with crackling bags of popcorn, while others smoke hookahs and talk cheerfully.”

When the bombs find their targets, Mr. Krak reported, "cheers break out on the hill, followed by a solid applause."

for context https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4605408,00.html

The conflict between Israel and Hamas-led Gaza militants, which ended on August 26, killed nearly 2,200 Palestinians, most of them civilians, and 73 people on the Israeli side, mostly soldiers.

By this I mean there is plenty of ammunition from both sides to use this kind of rhetoric to dismiss the needs to recognise the basic human rights of civilians.

The only focus worth addressing is the presiding systematic brutality enacted on a captive civilian population. There is literally no way to end this violence without ending this, regardless of how you judge the perpetrators of individual acts.

When the bombs find their targets, Mr. Krak reported, "cheers break out on the hill, followed by a solid applause."

Barbarism.