To be fair, her nickname had an obvious homophone. That's some pretty heavy-handed foreshadowing; it bespeaks laziness in the writers' room.
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 19 November 2023 16:01 (ten months ago) link
It's pretty poor but not noticeably worse than any of the other series after the first two or three (gut says it's fine through to the 60s but takes a downturn pretty much as soon as the 70s hit).
Then again, it's still country miles better than the Spencer film, and Kristen Stewart got all kinds of awards nominations for that. That also featured royal ghosts lecturing people as a key plot point.
― Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Sunday, 19 November 2023 16:32 (ten months ago) link
I've already said this, but the name "Fflyn" was new to me. I have been helpfully educated on the linguistic rationale (hat tip to James Redd) but I am still processing that info.
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 19 November 2023 17:02 (ten months ago) link
i hadn’t caught up on s5 & s6 until now halfway thru s5there is def something a bit boring about this season i agree i think staunton is great as the Queen but i am struggling to get with McNulty as Charles, he’s not nearly pompous & insecure enough, too confidentdebicki is good as diana but i ageee w comments upthread that its mostly mannerisms & a bit one-note i really love lesley manville as margaret, and casting Timothy Dalton as Group Captain Wotsisface in s5e4 was such a lovely touch
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 21 January 2024 02:41 (eight months ago) link
Mohamed al-Fayed's episode was maybe the best episode of S5, which is kind of indicative of the existential crisis this show had in its last two seasons. the writers' choices of focus were probably for the better, because I'm not sure I enjoyed any episode focused on the Queen in S5 or S6
― Vinnie, Sunday, 21 January 2024 14:18 (eight months ago) link
yeah agree i liked that one a lotdid the thing imo crown does best, weaving two time periods together idk what it is about s5 but i’m honestly so bored by their dramatization of the diana of it all at this pointlike she’d literally tell a teatowel how miserable she is and wants a divorce then next thing moping to her therapist like oh the queens dismissal was “so final” like omg stfuuuuuup go wear a fucking bikini and be divorced PLEASE
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 January 2024 03:39 (eight months ago) link
If she hadnt died she'd have broken up with Dodi like a week later whats a bet.
By the time it got to the Wills and Harry stuff I completely lost interest.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 22 January 2024 05:19 (eight months ago) link
lol yeah probably. i just finished s5, so now i begin the long march thru s6 sidebar: queen now 100% reminding me pf my dear departed nan, who had almost the same hairdo, wore the same wool skirts & cardigans every day of her life, never saw her in a single pair of trousers
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 January 2024 05:29 (eight months ago) link
did the thing imo crown does best, weaving two time periods together
For me the other thing The Crown does best is telling me things about British history, and specifically the monarchy, that I didn't already know. The only episode in the last two seasons that did that was the one about Mohamed al-Fayed.
― trishyb, Monday, 22 January 2024 09:12 (eight months ago) link
tired: queen as a child tricked* into a nazi salutewired: queen as an old lady tricked into wearing nu-metal shorts
this gives me a handy bar for the remainder of this show to fall below, at last i can start watching s5 & then s6
*it's why she hates her uncle, bcz either it's a public shame (shows her as she isn't) or a public revelation (shows her as she actually is)** **either way is an unwanted obstacle
― mark s, Monday, 22 January 2024 10:56 (eight months ago) link
yeah the second half of the final season was completely limp and pointless, but I think that may simply be because I remember all of it happening in real time
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 22 January 2024 15:35 (eight months ago) link
yeah i think thats true also
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 January 2024 15:40 (eight months ago) link
ok well into deathmarch to the end of s6 still such a boring slogafter everything they did w the first 4 seasons its like they were just, fuckit we’ve go nothing here’s diana staring up under her fringe for 20 hours like no history detours really at all except the mohammed fayed ep in s5 the speculative fiction of dodi & diana’s final hours together was a bit much for me, i mean maybe that is what happened idki’m only on ep5 cannot even begin to imagine the depths of boredom yet to be excavated here weeeee zzzz
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 29 January 2024 02:23 (seven months ago) link
The William & Catherine and William & Harry stuff is yes, even more boring. The Princess Margaret episode was good though.
― nate woolls, Monday, 29 January 2024 02:55 (seven months ago) link
good to know thx
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 29 January 2024 03:04 (seven months ago) link
the speculative fiction of dodi & diana’s final hours together was a bit much for me, i mean maybe that is what happened idk
ya this was bad, also there's an entirely made up plotline about how Kate's mother basically engineered her daughter and William getting together from even before their time at St Andrews. i mean sure, this show is fictionalised, but that whole arc seemed unnecessarily mean-spirited
didn't even distract from how boring the whole season was, it was def a struggle to finish
― Roz, Monday, 29 January 2024 08:05 (seven months ago) link
yeah they really struggle to make the second half of S6 interesting. just little there work with, I suppose. I preferred the Diana episodes even if I knew a lot of the story
― Vinnie, Monday, 29 January 2024 19:33 (seven months ago) link
this back half feels so speculative as to beggar belief, like beyond fictionalizing and into “we have now decided to just invent new characters we are calling The Royals”Charles going off into the scottish highlands to wail abt Dianas death seemed insanely fabulist, like ok what are we actually doing here and ghost Dianas convo w the queenlmao ok whut
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 29 January 2024 20:44 (seven months ago) link
wait this sounds good tho, all historical reconstruction should include ghosts, cf hamlet etc
― mark s, Monday, 29 January 2024 20:47 (seven months ago) link
to affirm my claim i found a fine portrait of the real actual historical hamlet aka "amblett"
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/Amblett_Hamlet.jpg/800px-Amblett_Hamlet.jpg
― mark s, Monday, 29 January 2024 20:50 (seven months ago) link
FWIW the ghosts didn't bother me nearly as much as the boring shit
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 29 January 2024 22:34 (seven months ago) link
true, the boring shit is definitely the worst aspect
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 29 January 2024 22:54 (seven months ago) link
fiiiiiinallly finished this trudge through the treacle of s6high point: really liked the episode about Margaret, thought it showed their relationship as sisters quite nicely. i didn’t know she had burned her feet, v awful i liked all the scenes btw William & the Queen, they have good chemistry in their scenes togethercamilla puffing on a cig while tending to the tomato plants was v good harry’s nazi uniform moment lol ugh the rest of it was decidedly boring/mid and i am glad its over should have stopped at s4 tbh
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 February 2024 01:29 (seven months ago) link
OH and the penitence prayer scene for Chuck & Camilla was pretty great imo
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 February 2024 01:38 (seven months ago) link