She's not just teen, she's 19! I doubt she would eat a fish finger sandwich now, but when she was little she would probably have eaten the fish and bread separately, the former with (yes) ketchup and the latter plain.
And yeah, I think my common law brother in law is kind of lame, afaict (I haven't spent much time with him). He's a bright guy and plays in a band but has this unbreakable/unbearable bond with the north of England and yet, simultaneously, a shallow and tedious dislike of "authority" (which allegedly lead him to leave school at a really young age, which may in turn have amplified his shoulder-chip, who knows).
We have tried trolling before, but it's not always that satisfying. Like when they were visiting the States and it was overcast and we were all "I bet it reminds you of home!" and he freaked out. "It's not always like this in England!!! Americans always think every day is gloomy and rainy!"
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 January 2024 16:52 (five months ago) link
Not sure who the teenager is there tbh
― Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 January 2024 16:53 (five months ago) link
xp oh no I know the type already. Sees London paralysed by snow or airports shut or something and sends out memes “Northerners, time to put your big coat on”. Tedious.
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:01 (five months ago) link
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/lifestyle/put-your-big-coat-on-how-to-survive-the-coming-winter-by-a-northerner-20210924212416
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:02 (five months ago) link
He refuses to even go to London. Like, my kids: maybe we can meet up in London! Him: why would anyone want to go there?! Us (to ourselves): why would anyone want to go to Leeds? He's not even some burley bloke or whatever, he's basically a big indie dork, which makes him extra insufferable.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:05 (five months ago) link
a professional northerner from Leeds who is in a band and who does a fair bit of whiny belligerent culinary jingoism when with foreign guests, either for fun or maybe seriously idk? But I'm certain he sounds like a dickhead. But it might just the way you are making them sound here!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:14 (five months ago) link
He refuses to even go to London
that London, to use the correct terminology
― Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:17 (five months ago) link
xpost Maybe! I've been trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. Fwiw I don't think he's messing with *us*.
Here's another one: when we were last there and following our visit with a stop in Lisbon, he just could not conceive of why we would want to go to Portugal.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:18 (five months ago) link
LOL he's like a walking cliche
― Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:20 (five months ago) link
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BODg3OWZhZGYtNTMyZS00OTA4LTg4NDktMDg1NjI0YzU3OGI1XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMDIzNDc0MA@@._V1_.jpg
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:23 (five months ago) link
Next time he says the price of something, get your daughter to say ‘owwww mooch?’
― steely flan (suzy), Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:24 (five months ago) link
Can't believe someone from Leeds is a nob
― emishi sun hack (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:28 (five months ago) link
Next time you visit the UK, why not suggest meeting in Sheffield?
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:34 (five months ago) link
the worst professional northerner I ever met was this guy called Bob, he was someone who had worked as a mining electrician for 30 odd years. He was marking me for a practical testing and inspection exam. As I approached the rig he said "bloody 'ell you are humming.. I can tell you've been eating some foreign crap". I probably did eat a clove of garlic in something the night before, but so rude. Anyway he failed me on a minor technicality, the tosser.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:36 (five months ago) link
We did go there once. Hiked around the Dales, it was lovely.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:36 (five months ago) link
Worse than a professional Northener, a professional Yorkshireman.
― Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:37 (five months ago) link
that's what I meant, I always assume the main offenders are from Yorkshire - no other region is close at producing such wankers
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:40 (five months ago) link
Everyone I've known from the NE is pretty much like this, ditto Liverpool. PS I grew up in Muswell Hill
― manson family whatsapp group (Matt #2), Sunday, 7 January 2024 18:09 (five months ago) link
A professional Scouser is a different but equally as horrible phenomenon.
― Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 January 2024 18:11 (five months ago) link
tbf I'm not sure exactly where in the north he is from. His accent doesn't seem particularly northern-strong. I think he has family in Scotland, but he's definitely not Scottish.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 January 2024 18:13 (five months ago) link
ok that rules out Pat Nevin
― emishi sun hack (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 January 2024 18:40 (five months ago) link
He lives in the Scottish Borders fwiw.
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 7 January 2024 18:42 (five months ago) link
He's right about the bacon tbf
― kinder, Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:06 (five months ago) link
What's the deal with the bacon?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:18 (five months ago) link
is it just streaky bacon in the US or something?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:22 (five months ago) link
xp USA generally has streaky bacon (and Canadian ham??). UK has that but also back bacon which is what you tend to have in a bacon sandwich/ roll.(ILX has some form of this discussion every ~3 months or so :-) )
― kinder, Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:25 (five months ago) link
I also couldn't find sausages anywhere that tasted anything like normal British sausages. Some random store sold some packaged as "British Bangers", they were not great but probably the closest I found. Other sausage is good but sometimes you want bacon, sausages, baked beans and toast that isn't weirdly sweet.my life there was a living hell evidently :-D
― kinder, Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:29 (five months ago) link
I learned about US bacon from Breaking Bad
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:31 (five months ago) link
Meades was pretty scathing about "the good old British banger" iirc, but I think he had a point tbh. The Irish and the Italian bangers are objectively better, not being a foodie here because generally I just buy supermarket own brand cumberlands, but couldn't imagine missing them!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:42 (five months ago) link
lol i started trying to read the meades piece and it's as pompously unreadable as anything jay fkn rayner ever committed
also don't call a magazine "the critic"
― mark s, Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:46 (five months ago) link
in conclusion: english sausages may be bad but they're better than english food writing
― mark s, Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:48 (five months ago) link
(also they're not bad they're good)
To me "the good old British banger" means the Richmond/Walls style sawdust and pink goo abominations served in canteens and caffs, but there are much better ones available in all good supermarkets
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:49 (five months ago) link
xpI was referring to one of his pompously watchable tv programs, can't remember which one it was where he dissed British bangers, may have been Fast Food
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:51 (five months ago) link
his recipe book is garbage
tbh i've never watched any of his telly shows
― mark s, Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:53 (five months ago) link
a Richmond sausage is exactly what you want for a proper sausage sandwich i will die on this hill
― emishi sun hack (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:53 (five months ago) link
nowt wrong with Richmonds, apart from the thin ones being too thin
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:54 (five months ago) link
Richmonds isn't pink goo, it was originally made as an Irish style sausage, totally agree about Walls though
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:59 (five months ago) link
Can't be doing with a thin sausage.
― Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:59 (five months ago) link
their meat-free ones are good too
― emishi sun hack (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:59 (five months ago) link
yeah much better than the Linda McCartney ones
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 January 2024 22:00 (five months ago) link
Sausages and mashed potatoes with some proper onion gravy with caramelised onions, red wine and beef fat, that is some pretty good tuck.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 January 2024 22:10 (five months ago) link
Swap mash for a proper jacket potato and it's probably one of my favourite teas
― kinder, Sunday, 7 January 2024 22:12 (five months ago) link
the meat-free Richmonds are great for having with gravy, mash and carrots. Quorn sausages work better as part of a breakfast. The Linda McCartney burgers are excellent but the Linda McCartney sausages are mediocre and also don't seem consistent in the way they cook despite the instructions being simple and unchanged. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk on meat substitutes in the UK
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 7 January 2024 22:14 (five months ago) link
An American sausage patty is a beautiful thing but in the UK is only available in Sausage McMuffins. Otherwise we have chipolatas (which are known as LINKS in the US).
Napoli sausage from the good butcher across the street is what I choose when I’m treating myself, otherwise I pounce on Waitrose/Sainsburys posh ranges reduced to clear.
― steely flan (suzy), Sunday, 7 January 2024 22:14 (five months ago) link
does Southern style gravy (US South) work with UK food? I always hear they have it with biscuits and start thinking that's not reet!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 January 2024 22:17 (five months ago) link
I was watching a youtube chef cutting the skin of some spicy Napoli sausage for a Bolognese recipe and my mouth was watering while it's contents were sizzling in the pan.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 January 2024 22:20 (five months ago) link
American sausage patty is basically lorne sausage, surely?
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 7 January 2024 22:24 (five months ago) link
Like a breakfast patty? I think the seasonings (particularly sage) are what I think of in the US.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 January 2024 22:30 (five months ago) link