“I can hear those champagne bottle corks popping in Moscow — like it’s Christmas every fucking day": US Politics, February 2024

too bad, so sad

When you can't even get your shit together to do meaningless trolling.

Mike Johnson has obviously got off to a stumbling start, this is a self-inflicted face plant at the worst time for his conference

Such a shame.

putting impeachment on the floor when you haven’t counted the votes

Another triumph for Speaker Mike Johnson!

I’m sure they’ll learn a lesson from this

they should impeach Buttigieg, there are potholes everywhere and no bullet trains

I have criticized Pelosi. Her public statements can sometimes feel like Mickey Mantle in 1969. But not the vote counting. Most people outside politics don’t understand what a skill that is. Pelosi is at least Rayburn’s equal there. Lyndon Johnson would understand her. https://t.co/LIhrtmBweK

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) February 7, 2024

gerontocracy issues aside, I must grudgingly agree

How often have Dems been caught flat footed by not having the votes in high profile moments? All the examples I can think of are GOP, which might just be my bias, but have the Dems had any major “John McCain gives McConnell thumbs down” disasters?

I can't think of any w/in recent memory

I remember Pelosi withdrawing a bill on the floor in 2021 or 2022 but otherwise she ran a stunningly tight ship.

The Dems have been saying they’ll call a vote to oust Speaker Johnson the third time they find themselves with more members in a session. It’s happened two times now. I still doubt it though.

Ronna McRomney is reportedly stepping down. I bet her Trump-approved replacement will be even more reasonable.

Qanon Shaman

I think he's in jail, but that shouldn't really be an issue

btw I saw a real live fucking Q bumper sticker today, complete with flag plates and predator decal

It goes to show how odd everything is these days that the fact that Nevada had both a Republican primary and a caucus with different winners is just another thing. Everybody wins in Nevada right?

How is Nevada even a state.

Our states are so weird, some of them are these densely populated hives of diverse communities and cultures and some of them are just, like, one industry (or church) that owns the whole thing.

Or in Nevada's case, three industries -- gambling, mining and cattle.

You forgot sex workers, who are God’s chosen.

(I am being 100% serious)

I guess we could just say "entertainment."

Many western states exist to counter the Solid South.

We generally have, or had, an ethos of "leave me the hell alone."

Yeah the mechanics of when and how states got added was wild. People freak out about the idea of cutting up California into multiple states, but in the 19th century all of that politicking was just totally brazen.

This is a really insane country, obv.

People freak out about the idea of cutting up California into multiple states

What if I told you...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Californias

Hope he has another stroke.

Press release from fettermans office pic.twitter.com/tPH0CzAEK6

— Kim Kelly (@GrimKim) February 6, 2024

I do not think that is a great strategy

I dunno, it did wonders for

Abbott is a corrupt socialist.

He encouraged his corporate buddies to make obscene profits during the grid failure and forced us to pay for their windfall in higher utility bills.

He privatized the gains to a few and socialized the losses to every single ratepayer in Texas.

— Beto O'Rourke (@BetoORourke) January 28, 2022

I’m all for reopening Borders.

First-rate Hispanic fiction section.

It's funny, I totally expected them to have Biden impeached by this point, but they can't even impeach Mayorkas.

Always happy to overestimate their ability to actually do anything.

Apparently, Nikki Haley lost in the Nevada primary to "None of these candidates" (Trump was not on the ballot).

Really feel like Nevada primaries should be Russian roulette.

Paul Krugman tells @GregTSargent that he gets "a little bit questioned" by Times editors when he writes that the Biden economy is doing well; they want him to give more credence to arguments that it isn't. At a little after the 11-minute mark here: https://t.co/9EUnQVNdLS

— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) February 5, 2024

Again, tell me and everyone I know about a good economy that we can’t see or experience. This shit is gaslighting at its finest.

Reagan wasn't entirely wrong: "Recession is when your neighbor loses his job. Depression is when you lose yours."

And in this economy, very few people are losing their jobs. Obviously more in some industries than others, and many people are underemployed, lack benefits, etc. But relatively speaking.

People are funny about what "the economy" means. By any measure I was doing just okay until 2018 when I got hit with a position change and promotion. My income and influence shot up -- not great but better. I could've credited Donald Trump for it. In the last 18 months I've gotten a raise and am in line for another promotion: do I credit Joseph Biden? Many people would! I don't see the connection because I've got a state job and terminally online people like me understand anyway that a president isn't a jobs sorcerer.

I understand that measures like GDP and stock prices are disconnected from how many Americans experience the economy and generally agree that the media focuses on them too much. But the employment rate ostensibly encompasses everyone in the workforce, and it's at its lowest point since 1969. That seems good to me.

That said, I agree with Alfred that people both blame and credit presidents too much for economic conditions, which are often out of their control and subject to trends that began long before they entered the White House.

Keep up the gaslighting, good work

Let’s go to some diners and see what real Americans think about the economy.

you know this stuff is like 95% confirmation bias anyway. when prices go up, if your party is out of power, of course it's the other guys' fault. if they are, then of course they can't really do anything about it. or maybe they could if there was a such thing as BIPARTISANSHIP these days!??

I know people who think the US economy has been utter trash since Covid, and often take to blaming Biden, particularly when it comes to inflation. somehow these people all seem unaware that there are actually countries OUTSIDE of America, the vast majority of which are doing much worse than we are, regardless of what party is in power.

You wanna piss off people? Tell'e that someone else -- another country -- is doing worse. They're like SO WHAT WHAT ABOUT ME

The U.S. economy is, by a variety of standards, "good" relative to other periods in its history. That doesn't mean that it's working for everyone, or that it doesn't have deep structural problems.

You wanna piss off people? Tell'e that someone else -- another country -- is doing worse. They're like SO WHAT WHAT ABOUT ME

Whereas table has the exact opposite perspective — women's rights in the US? Who cares? GAZA

untrue, c'mon

For real. Table can multitask outrage better than anyone else here, and I do mean that as a compliment

White people be like, "But all lives matter!"

flagged unperson for obvious attempt to troll the most easily trolled poster on this message board

genuine question as I don't pay as much attn to the US these days: what has Biden done for women's rights?