what the fuck is happening in Russia?

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several killed at the Krokus concert hall near Moscow, several men in combat fatigue entered & shot at the crowd + explosives too

StanM, Friday, 22 March 2024 17:58 (three months ago) link

(Crocus)

StanM, Friday, 22 March 2024 17:58 (three months ago) link

I'm sorry but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fPjQZwhrOE

President Keyes, Friday, 22 March 2024 18:00 (three months ago) link

Oof

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Friday, 22 March 2024 18:06 (three months ago) link

oof..uck

nashwan, Friday, 22 March 2024 18:09 (three months ago) link

Haven't seen mention yet of what the concert/performance was. Probably irrelevant to the incident, but would be helpful to know.

paisley got boring (Eazy), Friday, 22 March 2024 18:13 (three months ago) link

People are still trapped inside the fire-ravaged Crocus City Hall concert venue near Moscow, where a shooting and explosions occured earlier, Russian state news agency TASS reported.

The fire has engulfed a third of the concert venue building and the roof of the building is almost completely engulfed in flames, TASS reported.

President Keyes, Friday, 22 March 2024 18:17 (three months ago) link

a rock band called Picnic was scheduled to play & the attack happened before the start of the show

https://78.ru/news/2024-03-22/basist-gruppi-piknik-strelba-v-crocus-city-hall-nachalas-pered-samim-koncertom

StanM, Friday, 22 March 2024 18:27 (three months ago) link

"Bassist of the band “Picnic” Marat Korchemny told the details of the shooting in the capital’s Crocus City Hall.
“The shooting started in the hall just before the concert. A series of shots rang out. The whole group was saved, everyone is safe, now we are trying to evacuate,” he said in an interview with the Petersburg Diary newspaper."

StanM, Friday, 22 March 2024 18:28 (three months ago) link

not saying this means anything but they were banned from playing in Ukraine after the annexation of Crimea, it says here

StanM, Friday, 22 March 2024 18:30 (three months ago) link

The venue is apparently owned by Putin/Trump liaison and Miss Universe host Aras Agalarov.

paisley got boring (Eazy), Friday, 22 March 2024 19:04 (three months ago) link

Hmm

His company Crocus Group was the general contractor for two stadiums that hosted the 2018 FIFA World Cup matches.

Crocus City Hall hosted the Miss Universe finals in 2013. Donald Trump attended the ceremony and met with the Agalarovs.

paisley got boring (Eazy), Friday, 22 March 2024 19:09 (three months ago) link

at least 40 dead

StanM, Friday, 22 March 2024 19:27 (three months ago) link

It feels just as likely to be a Russian mafia operation as anything else.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 22 March 2024 19:29 (three months ago) link

hmm

The attack followed a statement issued earlier this month by the U.S. Embassy in Moscow that urged the Americans to avoid crowded places in the Russian capital in view of an imminent attack, a warning that was repeated by several other Western embassies.

President Keyes, Friday, 22 March 2024 19:32 (three months ago) link

The fact that Ramzan Kadyrov was one of the first to condemn it suggests otherwise.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Friday, 22 March 2024 19:33 (three months ago) link

(xp)

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Friday, 22 March 2024 19:33 (three months ago) link

remembering the moscow bombings that preceded the chechnya war - it would not be above putin to organize something like this

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 22 March 2024 19:35 (three months ago) link

considering how much fodder it will provide for russian propaganda machine my bet is on putin, absolutely.

scanner darkly, Friday, 22 March 2024 20:09 (three months ago) link

Islamic State have claimed responsibility on its Telegram channel for the attacks at the Crocus City Hall near Moscow, Reuters is reporting.

Oh, that's nice they have a Telegram channel.. are they on TikTok as well?

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 22 March 2024 21:41 (three months ago) link

Is that meant to be sarcastic? I would assume they are unless TikTok has banned them.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 22 March 2024 21:43 (three months ago) link

Does Telegram not ban self-avowed terror groups?

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 22 March 2024 21:45 (three months ago) link

Hamas broadcasted October 7 on its telegram channels

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 22 March 2024 21:45 (three months ago) link

Leaving aside where and why, a multi gunman attack is significantly unusual for IS no? That said the wikipedia list of their claimed recent attacks is longer and more varied than I thought it would be.

nashwan, Friday, 22 March 2024 22:36 (three months ago) link

I'm sure it's trite to say, but the concert hall itself and the gunmen are so similar to the opening of Tenet...

paisley got boring (Eazy), Friday, 22 March 2024 22:37 (three months ago) link

Also similar to the Paris attack

President Keyes, Friday, 22 March 2024 22:43 (three months ago) link

What is the motive

calstars, Saturday, 23 March 2024 00:35 (three months ago) link

Revenge for russia being in africa?

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 23 March 2024 01:20 (three months ago) link

all the ghoulie villains from the past are coming back now for the big finale.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 23 March 2024 02:18 (three months ago) link

Did IS not mention why they did it when they claimed responsibility?

default damager (lukas), Saturday, 23 March 2024 03:19 (three months ago) link

Or if you want something much longer https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/05/09/islamic-state-afghanistan-khorasan-propaganda-russia-ukraine-war/

default damager (lukas), Saturday, 23 March 2024 03:58 (three months ago) link

THE #MOSCOW TERRORISTS: I’ve watched a half dozen videos of the terrorists action. They are attacking “Alpine style”, Fast & light. AK automatic rifles, poss IEDs & extra magazines in packs. Civilian clothes. No suicide bomb belts or vests & not fighting to death. People…

— Malcolm Nance (@MalcolmNance) March 22, 2024

paisley got boring (Eazy), Saturday, 23 March 2024 06:44 (three months ago) link

93 dead, likely to rise.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 March 2024 09:03 (three months ago) link

Russians claiming they apprehended (some of) the perpetrators preparing to cross the Ukrainian border. Oh-oh.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 March 2024 09:04 (three months ago) link

so I hear no police turned up until 30 minutes after the first gunshots were fired, and then it took 1 hour 20 mins for the Russian special forces to turn up. hmm

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 23 March 2024 09:24 (three months ago) link

all Tadzhik nationals xposts

115 dead now

StanM, Saturday, 23 March 2024 11:01 (three months ago) link

Ty Lukas

calstars, Saturday, 23 March 2024 12:47 (three months ago) link

"All four direct perpetrators of the terrorist attack, all those who shot and killed people, were found and detained. They tried to hide and moved towards Ukraine, where, according to preliminary data, a window was prepared for them on the Ukrainian side to cross the state border. A total of 11 people were detained."

Man aren't they great at figuring this all out so quickly afterwards, shame about ignoring the warning from the enemy (US intel) days beforehand.

nashwan, Saturday, 23 March 2024 13:52 (three months ago) link

pretty cruel of IS to do this, there must be a lot of liberals twisting their guts inside out trying to pick a side

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 March 2024 14:03 (three months ago) link

Putin has to find a way to blame the attacks on Ukraine. otherwise he’d have to pull forces out of the war to send them after Isis.

President Keyes, Saturday, 23 March 2024 14:13 (three months ago) link

i wouldn’t trust any info from the russian government
it is quite interesting however how the chechens were able to apprehend the supposed terrorists so quickly and easily

scanner darkly, Saturday, 23 March 2024 16:27 (three months ago) link

new kinds of torture are being invented for these guys, I bet - apparently a video of one of their interrogations was published where the terrorist's ear was being cut off & he was forced to eat it (it says here in a Belgian newspaper)

StanM, Saturday, 23 March 2024 16:36 (three months ago) link

oh cool!

imago, Saturday, 23 March 2024 16:52 (three months ago) link

That's not new, it happened in Django

I saw three hippies saving a whale (Matt #2), Saturday, 23 March 2024 17:29 (three months ago) link

that'll teach you not to sell any more forged Van Gogh originals in the Russian federation

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 23 March 2024 17:37 (three months ago) link

how did these dudes let themselves be taken alive

mookieproof, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 00:21 (three months ago) link


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