The novel In a Lonely Place is vastly different from the film but very much worth reading, it's a little disorienting to read if you go in with any expectation that it will line up with the film, but I think both are brilliant in their own way.
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 19:24 (four weeks ago) link
Interesting. Have always wondered about that one.
― Billion Year Polyphonic Spree (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 21:18 (four weeks ago) link
There is also the song by The Smithereens, which relies heavily on the film's catchphrase:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlOVlqUcB8A
― Billion Year Polyphonic Spree (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 21:20 (four weeks ago) link
Dorothy B Hughes is great!
― ian, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 21:28 (four weeks ago) link
Read another Arthur Lyons novel in his Jacob Asch series, and seems to me there's been some missed opportunities to make a particularly feverish, sweaty, nightmarish 1970s set private eye film based on one of those.
Good reminder that I'm overdue to watch Ride the Pink Horse.
― omar little, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 22:12 (four weeks ago) link
The novel of IN A LONELY PLACE is even more bleak than the film.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 30 May 2024 00:52 (three weeks ago) link
IALP is diffused a little for a having a protagonist/antagonist named Dix Steele.
"Hi! Dix Steele, meet I.Ron Johnson..."
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 30 May 2024 01:49 (three weeks ago) link
xo to Omar -
iirc, Lyons was involved with a major film noir festival, so I bet he would have loved to see an Asch novel on film.
― ian, Thursday, 30 May 2024 02:04 (three weeks ago) link
I read the plot summary for the novel of In A Lonely Place & my reaction was “100% Veg-bait”i mean: a serial killer moonlighting as a crime writer? sounds like a fever dream <3
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2024 02:25 (three weeks ago) link
The novel of In a Lonely Place is SO GOOD!
― Lily Dale, Thursday, 30 May 2024 02:29 (three weeks ago) link
:D
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2024 02:34 (three weeks ago) link
my local library has three of her novels on the shelf so i will def be grabbing those in the next day or two.
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2024 02:37 (three weeks ago) link
The novel is excellent and is definitely in that 1940s/50s sub-genre of "the bad or mad guy is the protagonist", ie Jim Thompson, Patricia Highsmith etc. Another great one in that category is "Beast in View" by Margaret Millar.
― Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 30 May 2024 02:42 (three weeks ago) link
ooh thx for the rec
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2024 02:54 (three weeks ago) link
― ian, Wednesday, May 29, 2024 7:04 PMp-
still going strong, just celebrated 25 years!
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/palm-springs-film-noir-arthur-lyons-festival-25th-anniversary-1235992647/
― omar little, Thursday, 30 May 2024 03:23 (three weeks ago) link
i keep my ear to the ground for these things normally, but events have had me distracted. gonna be on it for 2025, i hope. might make a desert trip.
― omar little, Thursday, 30 May 2024 03:24 (three weeks ago) link
After Dark, My Sweet (James Foley, 1990) is probably my favourite neo-noir and the best Jim Thompson adaptation to date, just a hair above Serie Noire (1979). It really captures the bleakness and sadness of his novel, and it has career-best performances fromJason Patric, Rachel Ward, and Bruce Dern
― beamish13, Thursday, 30 May 2024 04:29 (three weeks ago) link
There’s a certain famous band who would lazily look at a calendar for a local repratory folk theater when they needed to come up with song titles and this gave us classics like In a Lonely Place, Cries and Whispers, Thieves Like Us, Age of Consent etc
― dan selzer, Thursday, 30 May 2024 11:32 (three weeks ago) link
I thought New Order even wrote lyrics using Scrabble tiles
― beamish13, Thursday, 30 May 2024 13:34 (three weeks ago) link
"folk" should read "film" obv.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 30 May 2024 14:07 (three weeks ago) link
Veg, how did you watch Ride the Pink Horse? The only option I've found (short of buying a used copy, which I may just have to do) would be to activate an AppleTV+ trial...
I watched a cool one called Roadblock (1951) a few weeks back. The plot is a little shaky, but the dialogue is terrific; and there's real chemistry btw the leads. It takes an interesting turn from the usual "good guy led astray by femme fatale" setup; and culminates in a terrific chase in the L.A. riverbed (long before the T-Birds and Pink Ladies got there, haha).
― OG Rizzler (morrisp), Saturday, 1 June 2024 20:09 (three weeks ago) link
Internet Archive is the best place - they have a ton of noir not streaming anywhere else. https://archive.org/details/ride-the-pink-horse-1947I just cast it off my phone onto tv via bluetooth.
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 June 2024 20:56 (three weeks ago) link
Pink horse is on TCM every now and again. If u have a dvr and ur not recording noir alley (sats at 1159PM) ur missing out
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 2 June 2024 00:10 (three weeks ago) link
Thanx to both. I do try to keep my eye on TCM generally (that’s how I caught Roadblock).
― OG Rizzler (morrisp), Sunday, 2 June 2024 01:30 (three weeks ago) link
the thing about noir alley is eddie will tell you upfront if the movie is shit or not, which absolutely enhances the experience
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 2 June 2024 01:35 (three weeks ago) link
eddie is a good source
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 2 June 2024 01:38 (three weeks ago) link
He is marvelous in person if you get the chance to catch him at a Noir City festival.
― Jaq, Sunday, 2 June 2024 03:04 (three weeks ago) link
when i was sick recently i worked my way through his list of his favorite 25 noir movies, that was how i came across In A Lonely Place
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 2 June 2024 03:34 (three weeks ago) link
Just looked and In A Lonely Place is in one of the noir anthologies on my shelf. It's called Women Crime Writers: Eight Suspense Novels of the 1940s & 50s. Might have to pull it out.
From the 1940s, here are Vera Caspary’s famous career girl mystery Laura; Helen Eustis’s intricate campus thriller The Horizontal Man; Dorothy B. Hughes’s In a Lonely Place, the terrifyingly intimate portrait of a serial killer; and Elisabeth Sanxay Holding’s The Blank Wall, in which a wife in wartime is forced to take extreme measures when her family is threatened. The 1950s volume includes Charlotte Armstrong’s Mischief, the nightmarish drama of a child entrusted to a psychotic babysitter; Patricia Highsmith’s brilliant The Blunderer, which tracks the perverse parallel lives of two men driven toward murder; Margaret Millar’s Beast in View, a relentless study in madness; and Dolores Hitchens’s Fools’ Gold, a hard-edged tale of robbery and redemption.
Mischief is AMAZING. It was apparently adapted into a movie called Don't Bother To Knock which I've never seen.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 2 June 2024 04:25 (three weeks ago) link
ooh that sounds like a great collection
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 2 June 2024 06:03 (three weeks ago) link