just ONE vote for cagliostro? wow ilx u siccen me yet again
― a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Monday, 17 August 2009 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link
lil nublets
I would say Nausicaa by a pretty heaven margin now, also,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OkT5HyumQ4
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link
nausicaa suffers from comparison with the manga, which was some next level shit, but it has moments in it unlike anything else in miyazaki's career - it's more like a trad post-apocalyptic anime in that sense i guess
i think laputa is the weakest
porco rosso is great, especially the french dub featuring jean reno
future boy conan deserves some luv here too imo
― a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link
read a think with miyazaki recently where he says he hates porco rosso, he kinda dislikes a lot of his films and didn't enjoy making any of them and is a lot crankier than I expected
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Was supposed to see Nausicaa in the theater recently but it didn't happen. ;_;
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link
i've only seen spirited away, howl's moving castle, and totoro. <3 totoro so much
i guess i should watch nausicaa next?
― ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link
animators are generally miserable people
― a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link
no fuck that you should watch castle of cogliostro next!!!!! nausicaa is really pretty weak
turns out cogliostro is the only one available to watch instantly on netflix so i guess that's the one for me ^_____^
― ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link
kismet
ps - I know what I'm doing tonight now!
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link
its the most fun of his movies
― don't try to church it up (nickalicious), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link
x-post "Pronounced lack of plot" as in setting the film up for stuff that is alluded to but which never happens. Like, the set-up is all there, but the delivery is off. It'd be a bit like "Spirited Away" if the girl finds the spirit world, wanders around for a little, then goes home. The end. It'd be nice to look at, but it'd be lacking. Even Alice needs something to do in Wonderland. In "Ponyo," there is just no obstacle to surmount, no challenge, despite hints of global environmental imbalance and impending catastrophe. At one point one character says another is to be tested, very dramatically, then we flash to that character about to enter a dark tunnel. What's in the tunnel? What will he face? Um, nothing. He walks through the tunnel. At another point, a character notes of a magical well that it would be a disaster were any living creature to come in contact with it. Then a living creature comes in contact with it, and ... nothing? I'm still not sure. Hence this weird "what's missing here?" vibe to the movie.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I absolutely adore Totoro, but Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke were really boring for me. Not sure why.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 04:25 (fourteen years ago) link
gbx, did you watch it?
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 05:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Hence this weird "what's missing here?" vibe to the movie.
I certainly felt this, but honestly it didn't bother me that much. I mean, the scene where Ponyo is running on top of the giant fish is one of the best scenes in the history of animation. I felt that I got my money's worth + a weird taste in my mouth at the end (especially because of the song).
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 06:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Cagliostro is brilliant though. One of his best, alongside Porco, Spirited and Totoro.
― DavidM, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I loved Ponyo running with joy across the giant fish! Sort of wish the movie ended right after that, when she reunited with Sosuke. Everything following that was totally pointless, if not completely nonsensical (and not in the fun way). The extended sequence of her feeding that baby? The whole notion of her getting sleepy and reverting to fish form? The entire "Cocoon"-esque ending in the jellyfish/bubble by the old folks home? The fact that no one noticed/cared the moon was hovering a few feet away? No follow-up on the hundreds (?) of ships trapped in that wall of ocean, let alone the massive near-destruction of the world? It was as if the whole village was just enjoying a day spent punting along the rising water, which is fine, but which totally lacked portent, given the wizard's build-up of the dangerous imbalance with nature.
I can go with it up to a point, but don't really understand the hyperbolic praise being lavished on it, especially compared to Miyazaki's more obvious peaks. If he wanted to craft a crazy dream-like world, he should have done so. This one lacked resonance.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link
no fuck that you should watch castle of cogliostro next!!!!! nausicaa is really pretty weak― a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:09 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark
― a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:09 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark
you're really pretty weak
― CaptainLorax, Saturday, 22 August 2009 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Is Ponyo custom-made for ichthyologists or what?
― god bless this -ation (Abbott), Thursday, 3 September 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Her dad's reaction to her turning into a human (or at least the weird chicken-fish-girl) for the first time reminded me of a dad encountering his first daughter hit puberty. "Revert! REVERT!" And the mom's just bemused.
― god bless this -ation (Abbott), Thursday, 3 September 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link
lol at Capt Lorax. wtf?
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 3 September 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd120/hipsterrunoff/photographs/hro/1aeda2dc.jpg
― long time listener, first time balla (history mayne), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link
nuh uh
― peacocks, Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Do kids like Totoro? A friend was asking me if I could lend him any films to entertain his kids (to stop the usual 3 on repeat melting his brain). But it seems a bit...unfocussed...for children.
― textbook blows on the head (dowd), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
i LOVED totoro as a kid but what i did was make up a big stupid action thriller plot going on "behind" the actual plot, because i was an american. so if your friend's kids are philistines like me, don't worry, it can still work.
― my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
saw totoro when i was ~10 years old and loved it
i loved spirited away when it came out, but at this point i can't think of a movie i'd be less interested in revisiting. totoro is much more pimp
― Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 30 June 2011 00:40 (twelve years ago) link
spirited away is worth revisiting. so's totoro.
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 30 June 2011 00:54 (twelve years ago) link
yes, kids love Totoro. (based on kids I have shown it to between 3 and 12)
― I am using your worlds, Thursday, 30 June 2011 01:03 (twelve years ago) link
Didn't really get into Totoro, but then I did see it after Spirited and Howl's. The film I'm most likely to revisit is Howl's these days - it gets a bad rap because the ending's one of the worst examples of deus ex machina I can think of, but there's a lot of great stuff in there.
― la tristessa demerera (dog latin), Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:05 (twelve years ago) link
i honestly don't think any child should get to the age of twelve WITHOUT seeing totoro
― ain't nuthin but a chicken waaaang (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 2 July 2011 00:12 (twelve years ago) link
The film I'm most likely to revisit is Howl's these days - it gets a bad rap because the ending's one of the worst examples of deus ex machina I can think of, but there's a lot of great stuff in there.
Visually, yes. The plot's all over the place though.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Sunday, 3 July 2011 00:02 (twelve years ago) link
One of my kids pulled Totoro off the shelf at the library -- he liked the image on the cover of the DVD -- so I rented it even though I wasn't sure it would hold their attention. They're 3 and 6 and used to faster-paced entertainment. But they actually both really liked it, the 3-year-old in particular kept watching it over and over. So, yes, recommended.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 3 July 2011 00:19 (twelve years ago) link
was babysitting little cousins ages upon ages ago (this might have even been back in the 90s) and little kids will apparently watch any ghibli movie totally rapt.
(keep in mind spirited away hadnt even come out yet at that point and i've got no idea if this still applies to newfangled kids with their newfangled cgi.)
(and i didnt show them grave of the fireflies or anything.)
― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 3 July 2011 00:27 (twelve years ago) link
i thought howl's was rad but im a big fan of the source book & i kinda liked how unfocused and goofy it was idk
― Lamp, Sunday, 3 July 2011 03:27 (twelve years ago) link
how was the first one where i went "oh god what if he isn't infallible" but dude has been substitute jesus and granpa for me ever since i saw "warriors of the wind" (ugh) on hbo at like age 8 so i'm probably not to be trusted
― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 3 July 2011 04:34 (twelve years ago) link
christ that new dub of cagliostro pisses me off. not like the '80s streamline dub was perfect by any means but ugh. also fuck u netflix for giving me this and no sub option for streaming.
― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 3 July 2011 04:52 (twelve years ago) link
this reads/watches like it was translated by babelfish, but it's still pretty great. we're talking like three hours of interviews/behind the scenes footage, though. it still kind of amazes me how much actual DRAWING he does on these movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi3LRn7EKx8
― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 3 July 2011 05:16 (twelve years ago) link
ghibli/miyazaki for me from canon to spectacular to good:
totoro/kiki/porco rosso/laputa/yamadas/grave of fireflies > mononoke/spirited away/nausicaa/only yesterday/pom poko/panda go >howl/ponyo/cagliostro/whisper of the heart
and then there's earthsea.
― ain't nuthin but a chicken waaaang (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 3 July 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
kiki is sooooo underrated
― remy bean, Sunday, 3 July 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link
"fly"
― ain't nuthin but a chicken waaaang (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 3 July 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
Kiki's probably my third favourite ghibli, so charming and some great life lessons too
― Jesus was fat (dog latin), Sunday, 3 July 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
Did you all see the trailer for Ghibli's adaptation of The Borrowers, 'Arrietty' http://t.co/q9nTu5V ? They're doing separate dubs for the US and UK. This one's the British one.
― Alba, Sunday, 3 July 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
this looks...a little too precious. the non miyazaki/takahata ghiblis have been kinda all over the map, quality-wise.
also, yay: Porco Rosso 2: The Last Sortie[8] Unknown (2012) Hayao Miyazaki
― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 3 July 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
i keep forgetting about that.
i kinda feel bad for goro. he's turning into the jakob dylan of the miyazaki family.
― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 3 July 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
mononoke is my favorite. inexplicably misinterpreted by 99% of everyone (pro or con) as "nature good humans bad".
― my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 3 July 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
99%, eh?
― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 3 July 2011 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i considered mononoke a minor work for a long time, but it's probably top 3 for me now. spirited away at the bottom obv
― Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 3 July 2011 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
billy bob thornton as jigo was one of the few inspired celeb v/o casting moves ever
― Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 3 July 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link