Oliver Stone's Decider biopic "W," starring Josh Brolin

i dug this

The movie?

Stone trying to be a Colbert w/ Colbert last night, failing

Yeah, I saw this before work this morning, and it was kind of painful. If you go on that show, you kind of have to accept that you will be upstaged by Colbert, and the only option is to earnestly play along and not mind if it looks a little goofy.

Or throw water in his face.

http://www.jfk-online.com/jones.jpg

I think you are allowed 2 or 3 "fucks" in a PG-13.

Yes. For instance, Elisabeth Shue: "Don't fuck with the babysitter."

― jaymc, Tuesday, October 7, 2008 10:59 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

some movies from before pg-13 ratings have "fuck" in them too, like spaceballs and all the presidents men

actually spaceballs is from 87 so i have no idea how it got a pg except maybe the mpaa didnt hear rick moranis adlibbing the line

yes i dug the movie!

Those were Daphne Zuniga's halcyon days. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

xp Give us a teaser.

beetlejuice drops a couple fucks too & im pretty sure that was pg

in american teen which is pg-13 they start bleeping out the fucks after 2 or 3 or whatever the limit is

the freshman, which is PG, also has a "fuck"

new thread for this

yes we know there were goddamn fucks in PG films

The Right Stuff is loaded with 'em, usually in the form of a fuckin'-a, and also Shepard's prayer. I always figured there was some kind of astronaut loophole.

movies you cant believe are g/pg/pg-13

apparently Dreyfuss' Cheney explains Iraq by using a ham sandwich.

slocki what about the movie

it runs a mere 131 minutes.

Good interview with Oliver Stone in WNYC's Leonard Lopate show (on iTunes, etc.).

OST tracklist:

War Introduction from the W. Original Film Score - Paul Cantelon
The Whiffenpoof Song - Collegians Male Chorus
Claudette - Roy Orbison
Chattahoochee - Alan Jackson
Shot Gun Boogie - Hank Thompson
Bayou from the W. Original Film Score - Paul Cantelon
Mammas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Cowboys - Willie Nelson
Wasted Days and Wasted Nights - Freddy Fender
Delta Waltz from the W. Original Film Score - Paul Cantelon
Robin Hood - Dick James
Deep in the Heart of Texas - Gene Autry
The Differencemaker from the W. Original Film Score - Paul Cantelon
What a Wonderful World - Eddy Arnold
Yellow Rose of Texas - Mitch Miller
War from the W. Original Film Score - Paul Cantelon
I'm Winging My Way Back to Home - Blackwood Brothers
With God on Our Side - Bob Dylan

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

and thus should fit nicely with the film I suspect

no "won't get fooled again" no cred

"once in a lifetime" in the trailer is like my top music-in-film moment of the year

Mammas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Cowboys - Willie Nelson

Do you see? Oh good.

Yellow Rose of Texas - Mitch Miller

Needs to be featured in a scene where W. pees on the TX statehouse wall.

Hoberman asks, who cares? "The least-nuanced performance in a film full of cartoon characterizations is Brolin's Bush. A simian slob, modeled on Andy Griffith's raucous run-amok in A Face in the Crowd and given to bad-tempered pronouncements while stuffing his face, Brolin uses stupidity as a crucifix. He wards off sympathy as though it were a vampire...."

http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-10-15/film/oliver-stone-assigns-motive-to-dubya-s-m-o-in-w-but-at-this-point-who-cares-other-than-josh-brolin/

That's pretty much the exact impression the trailer gives.

comaplaining about the political timing/squandered potential "impact" of the movie seems kinda stupid.

True. But I think the bigger things to complain about here are the rush to get the first word in and then squandering that opportunity by doing a hack job that basically sounds like a superficial round-up of the already conventional wisdom and most-remembered moments.

I mean, the NYT profile of Stone describes an early cut where Bush was flying over Baghdad on a carpet. I'm guessing that's the version ppl here were panting to see.

Wasn't sure Armond would maintain his Stonelove, but he does:

http://nypress.com/21/42/film/ArmondWhite.cfm

comaplaining about the political timing/squandered potential "impact" of the movie seems kinda stupid.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:36 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i 100% agree

this is actually a much more chilled-out movie than you might expect. it also assumes you've made up your mind about the significance of the bush presidency and all he's been responsible for in favour of a smaller, character piece.

W. is the best example of American filmmaking courage since Munich.

ahahahahahah

I'm a bit disappointed that it ends before the second term.

I haven't the filmmaking courage to open the Armond review.

That is the stupidest Armond White review yet.

complaining about the public being unfair to Bush is pretty weird. Aesthetically, I don't have any problem with vilifying evil people. Armond seems to take issue with it for being "too easy" or something.

(and thus commends Stone for not taking the "easy" way out and attempting to make a more "balanced" portrait)

Think of how much more courageous Munich would have been if Eric Bana had stepped on a corn cob.

lolz

anyone who isn't excited by this song in the trailer is a damn fool is all im sayin, guys.

<3

seein this tonight!

yeah, and not really sure why I am so excited about it. i mean, i haven't even seen a trailer

thoroughly enjoyed this.

i've never been much of a stone fan but i liked it a lot. wonderful performances throughout — james cromwell especially — and surprisingly moving.

the only downer for me was that stone skipped the entire period between 1999 and 2002. leaving florida and 9/11 out of the bush story just seems wrong.