Carey yr making me blush!!!
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 17 April 2003 21:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Carey (Carey), Thursday, 17 April 2003 21:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― shoops (Oops), Thursday, 17 April 2003 21:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 17 April 2003 21:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
THe William Zabka tribute: www.childrenofpain.com/london/zabka.html
― Carey (Carey), Thursday, 17 April 2003 21:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 17 April 2003 21:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dan (dan), Thursday, 17 April 2003 21:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Carey (Carey), Thursday, 17 April 2003 22:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 17 April 2003 22:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Cub, Thursday, 17 April 2003 22:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
also, jess have u seen "toy soldiers"?
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Thursday, 17 April 2003 22:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris P (Chris P), Thursday, 17 April 2003 23:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
40 Red Dawn39 Project X38 Barb Wire (for Chris)37 Ghost Dad36 Darkman35 The Stoned Age (Fuck snotrag, get us some talls!...okay, one comment.)34 Predator II33 Stargate32 Real Genius31 Ladybugs30 Death Becomes Her29 Pet Semetary28 Dave27 The Dark Crystal26 Addams Family Values25 Karate Kid II24 Poltergeist II23 Braveheart22 Ghostbusters21 Ghostbusters II
― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 April 2003 23:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 April 2003 23:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
I nominate Easy Money and Ladybugs.
jess, at least one of these dystopian gems must be in the Top 100:
Rollerball (1975)Death Race 2000The WarriorsNo EscapePrayer of the RollerboysNational Lampoon's Last Resort
― Cub, Friday, 18 April 2003 00:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 18 April 2003 00:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
Prayer of the Rollerboys
Clearly the best film ever.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 April 2003 02:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 18 April 2003 02:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris P (Chris P), Friday, 18 April 2003 02:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 18 April 2003 02:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
Rounders is a horrible movie, but at the same time, it's the greatest movie ever made. Ya know?
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 18 April 2003 03:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
You sick bastard.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 April 2003 03:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris P (Chris P), Friday, 18 April 2003 03:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
"Nice guy? I don't give a shit. Good father? Fuck you, go home and play with your kids! You wanna work here...close."
― Joe (Joe), Friday, 18 April 2003 04:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 18 April 2003 07:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
actorly macho bullshit masquerading as critique of something or other. (ok, great actorly macho bullshit, but i'll take swimming with sharks). what am i missing? also, only one "n".
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 18 April 2003 10:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― s1utsky, Friday, 18 April 2003 14:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
Showgirls rules that genre. (honorable mention: Center Stage)
― felicity (felicity), Friday, 18 April 2003 14:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 18 April 2003 14:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 18 April 2003 14:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
If you accept the fact that it's a genre film limited by the problems of such a self-conscious construct, then I think you can try and make that argument.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 April 2003 14:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 18 April 2003 14:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― felicity (felicity), Friday, 18 April 2003 14:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 18 April 2003 14:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nick A. (Nick A.), Friday, 18 April 2003 15:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Huh? Genre is a limitation on form and style, not quality. And how is a genre film any more selfconscious than a non-genre film? I don't grok you at all, Ned.
― Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 18 April 2003 15:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 18 April 2003 15:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 18 April 2003 15:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― H (Heruy), Friday, 18 April 2003 15:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 April 2003 15:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
Out of Sight
Actor that should be added to the "Underrated Supporting Actors" list:
Steve Zahn
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 18 April 2003 15:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 18 April 2003 15:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― H (Heruy), Friday, 18 April 2003 15:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nick A. (Nick A.), Friday, 18 April 2003 15:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 18 April 2003 15:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
In the case of this film in particular, I seem to remember you arguing that Verhoeven/Eszterhas knew the genre and its cliches well and were trying to subvert it -- personally I think that's reading too much into it and it's just an extremely dumb movie (and entertaining on that level because it's so bad) made by people who regard themselves as smarter than the material (though in this case I find the blame will always lie with Eszterhas more). So maybe I wasn't initially clear with my point, but I think we both agree that Showgirls's story is generic and that the creators knew it was generic, and that dismissing the film as horrible because of its genre would be a bad move.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 April 2003 15:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
That totally rules!
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 April 2003 15:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 18 April 2003 15:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 18 April 2003 15:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
If you would all write in the active voice and leave the straw men at home you would get into fewer of these arguments.
― felicity (felicity), Friday, 18 April 2003 15:36 (twenty-one years ago) link