hahaha
― stfuhut (k3vin k.), Monday, 31 August 2009 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link
so confused
― Mr. Que, Monday, 31 August 2009 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link
It doesn't surprise me too much that people in Heffernan's age cohort have mixed feelings about Facebook. They're a group that definitely has a big Facebook presence (as opposed to the generation above them), but they've only really joined the site within the last year or two, and the notion of living online is not as second-nature to them as it is to their Gen Y counterparts. Of course, Heffernan's article never considers this.
― jaymc, Monday, 31 August 2009 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link
i would totally agree with that
― Mr. Que, Monday, 31 August 2009 20:39 (fifteen years ago) link
My friend Alex joined four years ago at the suggestion of “the coolest guy on the planet,” she told me in an e-mail message. For a while, they cultivated a cool-planet online gang. But then Scrabulous was shut down, someone told her she was too old for Facebook, her teenage stepson seemed to be losing his life to it and she found the whole site crawling with mercenaries trying to sell books and movies. “If I am going to waste my time on the Internet,” she concluded, “it will be playing in online backgammon tournaments.”
Blech
― Alex in SF, Monday, 31 August 2009 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link
haha dude, man, is there something specific in that you're calling our attention to, or is it just the noise?
― nabisco, Monday, 31 August 2009 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Another thought the scene had turned desperate.
This ain't a scene it's a login.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Just the whole thing. How could someone write a paragraph like that and not think "I am the world's biggest douchebag"?
― Alex in SF, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link
because of writing declarative sentences about somebody else?
― nabisco, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
don't get me wrong, I prefer serial commas too, but it's a newspaper, whatchagonnado
― nabisco, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link
For a while, they cultivated a cool-planet online gang.
this is crucial
― Mr. Que, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Well he was "the coolest guy on the planet" according to her friend Alex's email message.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link
how DARE the INTERNET try to sell us (shudder) BOOKS AND MOVIES~!!!!!@!?????!!!
― ian, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah I mean I can get finding the piece thin or useless, but that paragraph is just relaying someone's story as told to the writer, so ... eh?
― nabisco, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link
i agree with you though Alex--paragraphs like that, what can you say about them except? Blech. I mean, it's just horrible journalism. Or should I say "journalism." It's like third rate blog writing.
― Mr. Que, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Que it's a column
― nabisco, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF, Monday, August 31, 2009 11:03 PM (56 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
when the dude from the Dos Equis commercial says join facebook, you join facebook
― Thought you were regal/Now who needs "Boston Legal"? (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 31 August 2009 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link
so they had problems with ads for books and movies and not for teeth whiteners, weight loss, and dating sites?
― what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Monday, 31 August 2009 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link
it may be a column, it still has no place in the New York Times. I used to love reading my hometown average guy suburban type columns when I was in high school. that paragraph is just bullshit piled on top of heresay on top of nonsense.
― Mr. Que, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link
...wrapped in an enigma.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link
with a dollop of sour cream on top
― Thought you were regal/Now who needs "Boston Legal"? (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 31 August 2009 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link
i could go for some potato skins round about now how about you guys?
― ian, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Ten minutes to the end of the workday, I'm with you.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Ian don't try to sell me stuff on the web.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link
they cultivated a cool-planet online gang.
this makes these people seem extremely lame ... and like they still have some inadequacies carried over from the 7th grade lunch table.
― what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Monday, 31 August 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Shit I have bacon and cheddar cheese at home. This could lead to something good....
― The Lion's Mane Jellyfish, pictured here with its only natural predator (Laurel), Monday, 31 August 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link
I think everyone here needs to compare/contrast with this week's back-end Lives, which if I remember correctly was about a white guy teaching English in Japan who slowly realized that when Japanese women told him he'd gained wait it wasn't an insult and was actually somewhat playful
― nabisco, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link
(as in like I'm curious which piece people would prefer)
He'd gained what?
― Alex in SF, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link
My friend Alex joined four years ago at the suggestion of “the coolest guy on the planet,” she told me in an e-mail message. For a while, they cultivated a cool-planet online gang.
i have absolutely no idea what this means. what is a "cool-planet online gang"? she says these things like normal people are supposed to understand them. who was the guy and why was he so cool? are we just supposed to take virginia heffernan's friend alex at his word?
But then Scrabulous was shut down,
wasn't this because they were infringing on a copyright? was facebook only worth it if you could play word games over a period of weeks?
someone told her she was too old for Facebook,
why smash a dumb sterotype when you can accept it?
she found the whole site crawling with mercenaries trying to sell books and movies.
i have been on facebook essentially since it started and have no idea what she's talking about.
“If I am going to waste my time on the Internet,” she concluded, “it will be playing in online backgammon tournaments.”
ok at least that's otm.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link
she found the whole site crawling with mercenaries
http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/MyWebFilms/Oorlog/ApocalypseWillardModder.jpg
― Mr. Que, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link
xp - and aren't there like a dozen faux-scrabble facebook games anyway?
― what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Monday, 31 August 2009 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link
He'd gained where?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
xp Yeah, but that was the most copywrite infringing so. . .
― Alex in SF, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
he'd gained. . . wait! that wasn't an insult!
― Mr. Que, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
that lives piece was fine iirc. i mean "lives" is basically for goofy shit like that (or sad shit about like parents with alzheimer's)
at least it tells a story and is not just like "hey this is what my friend said and this is what my other friend said"
― call all destroyer, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link
the great thing is i don't have to pick which one i'd prefer--i still think this one is stupid
― Mr. Que, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link
xp alex - but it isn't like they were suddenly unable to play internet scrabble ...
― what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Monday, 31 August 2009 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
if no scrabulous was really a deal breaker i guess that's fine, i mean i don't know.....
― call all destroyer, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:17 (fifteen years ago) link
very crucial here^^^
― Mr. Que, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link
gained WEIGHT, pardon
haha I'm so confused by y'all picking that paragraph apart -- it's a straightforward summary of some woman's stated experience with Facebook as relayed to the writer; is this really that weird? I mean, I dunno, would you really prefer to have your intelligence insulted by having such things be ILX-friendly and go
My friend Alex joined four years ago (LOL) at the suggestion of “the coolest guy on the planet” (yeah right like she knows anything about who's cool), she told me in an e-mail message. For a while, they cultivated a cool-planet online gang.* But then Scrabulous was shut down, someone told her she was too old for Facebook (she totally is, and lame too), her teenage stepson seemed to be losing his life to it (LOL what about the children) and she found the whole site crawling with mercenaries trying to sell books and movies. “If I am going to waste my time on the Internet,” she concluded, “it will be playing in online backgammon tournaments.” (OMG LOL BACKGAMMON what a dumb fuck my friend Alex is let's all laugh at her)
* note that this one is already readable as kinda scare-quoted and potentially sarcastic
― nabisco, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link
what's the difference between scrabulous and all the other ones that are basically the same concept?
― what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Monday, 31 August 2009 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link
well is she trying to come up with reasons why one might actually leave facebook or is she just repeating things she has been told? when i say i don't know what she means i'm not exaggerating--those sentences do not make any sense to me.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
is this really that weird? I mean, I dunno, would you really prefer to have your intelligence insulted by having such things be ILX-friendly and go
it's not a binary. it's not one way or the other. why are you wasting time trying to defend a piece of writing when it obviously struck a nerve with some of us?
― Mr. Que, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
if she wanted to come up w/reasons to leave facebook, then fuck, do some actual reporting and find some valid ones. if you just want to regurgitate things get a blog not a nyt column.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link
let's defend vacuity
― velko, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link
(I mean like I said, I get disliking the column, but that fairly neutral paragraph is like ... I dunno, it's like hating an ordinary brick in a building you dislike, you know?)
xpost - haha I'm not so much defending a piece of writing as marveling at various interpretations of it -- also dude you spent like two hours every weekday picking on various stuff I post, so let's not get into productive-use-of-time issues here
― nabisco, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link
nabisco....are...you.......trolling?
this is disturbing like when you were a kid and the bad superman showed up on superfriends
― Thought you were regal/Now who needs "Boston Legal"? (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 31 August 2009 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link
"what's the difference between scrabulous and all the other ones that are basically the same concept?"
Scrabulous was more copyright infringing and thus cooler for the people on planet cool.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link
also dude you spent like two hours every weekday picking on various stuff I post, so let's not get into productive-use-of-time issues here
huh?
― Mr. Que, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link