Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

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fwiw I can't think of a single case where a cop was actually convicted of criminal murder charges and served time, unless it was part of some larger corruption scandal (Rampart, CRASH, New Orleans, etc.) or a cop murdered his wife or some shit. Generally speaking this just does not happen.
many xp
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:03 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and obviously any cop going to prison for murder of a civilian is probably gonna get shanked real quick
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:04 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I had forgotten, but one of Abner Louima's cop attackers is serving 30 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima#Criminal_trials
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:06 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

xp yea i looked it up briefly and the majority of cases seemed to be corruption charges
― marcos, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:07 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and obviously any cop going to prison for murder of a civilian is probably gonna get shanked real quick
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 12:04 PM (2 minutes ago)

yeah this is true
― k3vin k., Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:07 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I had forgotten, but one of Abner Louima's cop attackers is serving 30 years.
that wasn't murder tho. when a cop kills a person, all these other justifications are usually brought up for why, and those are leaned on very heavily by the defense. whereas there is no conceivable justification for sodomizing a suspect w a broomstick.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:20 (three years ago) Permalink

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/13/us/california-homeless-beating-verdict/

these guys went to trial and got acquitted so its not always cut and dry

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:28 (three years ago) Permalink

i started this thread a long time ago but it kind of bricked

The most imprisoned people in history: rolling US criminal justice & law enforcement thread

can i suggest that the whole criminal justice pipeline be up for discussion here

goole, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:35 (three years ago) Permalink

go for it

go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:43 (three years ago) Permalink

can we make this play when the page loads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjZW_F4iuqo

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:46 (three years ago) Permalink

http://7online.com/archive/9440401/

"stop resisting"

Plasmon, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:38 (three years ago) Permalink

some good news, at least

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:42 (three years ago) Permalink

Best line is buried near the end: "...an investigation by Bloomfield PD's scandal plagued internal affairs division had found no wrongdoing by officers."

Aimless, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:44 (three years ago) Permalink

A coroner’s report obtained exclusively by NBC News directly contradicts the police version of how a 22-year-old black man died in the back seat of a Louisiana police cruiser earlier this year -- but still says the man, whose hands were cuffed behind his back, shot himself.

In a press release issued March 3, the day he died, the Louisiana State Police said Victor White III apparently shot himself in an Iberia Parish police car. According to the police statement, White had his hands cuffed behind his back when he shot himself in the back.

But according to the full final report of the Iberia Parish coroner, which was released nearly six months later and obtained exclusively by NBC News, White was shot in the front, not the back. The bullet entered his right chest and exited under his left armpit. White was left-handed, according to family members. According to the report, the forensic pathologist found gunshot residue in the wound, but not the sort of stippling that a close-range shot can sometimes produce. He also found abrasions on White’s face.


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/handcuffed-black-youth-shot-himself-death-says-coroner-n185016

anonanon, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:23 (three years ago) Permalink

At least one person got irritated with me for declining to vote for deBlasio in the (sewn-up) general election for NYC mayor. Then he appointed old hand Bratton to be police commish, and then...

Commissioner Bill Bratton, Mayor de Blasio's choice to lead the NYPD to a new age of transparency and discipline, turned away 25% of police misconduct findings by the Civilian Complaint Review Board, opting to ignore their recommendations for disciplining misbehaving officers. This is around the same rejection rate that former commissioner Raymond Kelly maintained before leaving office at the beginning of the year.

"I suggest you come back in six months and see how we’re doing,” Bratton told the New York Times in a phone interview yesterday."Based on my eight months sitting in that chair, my sense was that CCRB was significantly overcharging and overpenalizing.”

http://gothamist.com/2014/08/27/bratton_ignored_25_of_police_miscon.php

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:00 (three years ago) Permalink

http://rt.com/usa/183000-police-departments-lose-military-weaponry/

Already, the investigation has found that police departments in Arizona, California, Mississippi, Missouri, Georgia, and others have lost or cannot account for various types of weapons. This list includes M14 and M16 assault rifles, .45-caliber pistols, shotguns, and even vehicles.

, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:01 (three years ago) Permalink

I'm sure a search of a few police officer homes would turn them up, tanks included.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:11 (three years ago) Permalink

Reminds me of back in high school a buddy of mine got a job working at a gas station and used to hand out free packs of cigarettes to the cute girls and drug dealers who came in for a few months until he was caught and arrested. Bet there are some cute girls and drug dealers in Maricopa County with some military grade weaponry now.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:13 (three years ago) Permalink

http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/news/2014/08/27/minneapolis-cops-allegedly-taze-and-arrest-black-male-sitting-public-space

i never hear a reason on the video—just 'do what we say or else'

j., Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:40 (three years ago) Permalink

I think we can expect a whole lot of shootings of people who were "charging" in the near run.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:22 (three years ago) Permalink

The earlier crime of vandalism appears to have been throwing rocks at cars

you must have me confused with my stacked as fuck and imposing friend (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:22 (three years ago) Permalink

This whole thing of police either tasing or shooting people and then expecting them to "comply" and "cooperate" and "stop moving" is just . . . WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY????

Welcome to my spooooooky carnival! Hope I don't... blow your mind! (Phil D.), Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:23 (three years ago) Permalink

“The guy charged at [the second officer], and he got about 5 feet away before the officer fired his weapon three times,” Toby said. “And the guy went down, and they got one cuff on him. They were yelling, ‘cooperate, cooperate; give me your hand, give me your hand,’ but he wouldn’t give the hand. He was kicking his legs. And I think, at that point, the guy passed away.”

*blam!* *blam!* *blam!* "cooperate! cooperate!"

Please hear me doing that in my most contemptuous imitation of a fuckwit that I can possibly muster.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:26 (three years ago) Permalink

Oh, I see you got to that point before me.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:26 (three years ago) Permalink

sorry no time to cooperate, busy dying

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:30 (three years ago) Permalink

jesus fuck.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:38 (three years ago) Permalink

Usually, after charges of police brutality, police officials take their time reacting while they follow procedure to determine who did what. But this episode in Knoxville, Tenn., was so extreme and well-documented that the local sheriff fired the officer immediately. Also, it involved a white guy.

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:06 (three years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that was pretty much my reaction too

, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:07 (three years ago) Permalink

busy night for these guys.

they did not shoot anybody here tho:

http://www.startribune.com/local/272992321.html

(that chase screamed by right in front of my building fyi)

goole, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:32 (three years ago) Permalink

well i guess it doesn't say they didn't shoot him

goole, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:33 (three years ago) Permalink

http://www.mprnews.org/story/2014/08/28/police-shoot-and-kill-man-in-ramsey

Uh what the hell is going on - this is a different story than earlier today

you must have me confused with my stacked as fuck and imposing friend (jjjusten), Friday, 29 August 2014 00:37 (three years ago) Permalink

cops twitchy, journalists on the lookout

j., Friday, 29 August 2014 00:55 (three years ago) Permalink

Well except cops killing people would be reported in this town whenever and that makes 2 today and I don't remember the last time one happened

you must have me confused with my stacked as fuck and imposing friend (jjjusten), Friday, 29 August 2014 01:28 (three years ago) Permalink

Preliminary search says three people killed by cops this month, 2 dogs no people last month, none in the rest of 2014. So yeah

you must have me confused with my stacked as fuck and imposing friend (jjjusten), Friday, 29 August 2014 03:35 (three years ago) Permalink

http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/news/2014/08/27/minneapolis-cops-allegedly-taze-and-arrest-black-male-sitting-public-space

i never hear a reason on the video—just 'do what we say or else'

― j., Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:40 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Friday, 29 August 2014 14:46 (three years ago) Permalink

Twitter/Tumblr's been really good at unearthing stories of Things White People Can Do To Cops And Live To Tell About

From last year:

http://www.katu.com/news/local/Police-shooting-Beaverton-City-Hall-high-mushrooms-217458381.html

, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:29 (three years ago) Permalink

fuck, one of my friends is in that article about the shooting in St Paul, she was working at the coffee shop nearby.

JoeStork, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:37 (three years ago) Permalink

the cops here are open-minded enough to kill white people too:
http://host.madison.com/news/local/crime_and_courts/newly-released-police-records-shed-additional-light-on-paul-heenan/article_315e18ac-82e0-11e2-b277-0019bb2963f4.html

this was a couple years back, but it was a block and a half from my house, lots of my friends knew the victim (he was a musician), etc.

the cop was cleared of any wrongdoing for the shooting but fired for other reasons (yeah, ok), but i believe that external investigations into police shootings are now required in WI due to the efforts of his friends & family.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:39 (three years ago) Permalink

boy with toy sword shot from behind

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/race-utah-police-shooting

mattresslessness, Monday, 15 September 2014 15:26 (three years ago) Permalink

I saw that, horrifically sad

, Monday, 15 September 2014 15:29 (three years ago) Permalink

Multiple witnesses say he was running away AND an independent autopsy report found that he was shot in the back

Direct contradictions of the police officer's report that he 'lunged' at the officer

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-utah-police-shooting-20140914-story.html

, Monday, 15 September 2014 15:33 (three years ago) Permalink

It seems to me that police doctrine is that the instant you are suspected of unlawful behavior, you are presumed to be dangerous and are fair game for any amount of force to be used against you, with the idea that it is far better that you are killed or wounded than any police officer ever be hurt. This doctrine goes back a very long time in the USA, but the difference now is that it has become officially recognized and codified by the legal system and courts.

It apparently does not matter whether the suspicion is justified or not. It apparently does not matter whether you present any clear or present danger by your actions. So long as the officer "felt threatened", any amount of force is justified to nullify that imagined threat. In practice, this, of course, nullifies the entire concept of "excessive force".

Aimless, Monday, 15 September 2014 19:28 (three years ago) Permalink

Autopsy report shows police shot Darrien Hunt in the back, lawyer says

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/darrien-hunt-carrying-toy-sword-shot-and-killed-utah-police

Andy K, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 12:17 (three years ago) Permalink

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/16/darrien-hunt-shot-in-the-back-by-utah-police-says-family-attorney

“We haven’t even interviewed the officers yet,” said Taylor. “We’ve talked briefly with them just to kind of get an idea of what the scene was at the time.” He said officers were typically interviewed within 48-72 hours of a shooting. One is now scheduled to be interviewed on Tuesday and the other on Thursday, more than a week after the shooting, he said.

“I’m stunned. I find that almost incomprehensible,” Edwards, the attorney for Hunt’s family, said after being informed of this by the Guardian. “You want to speak with the officers almost immediately afterwards, when their memories are fresh and before they have had a chance to corroborate their stories.”

Andy K, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 14:39 (three years ago) Permalink

I gather many in this thread will not need reminding but man if it's not a matter of definite life and death do *not* call the fucking cops

Simon H., Friday, 8 December 2017 19:51 (two months ago) Permalink

Think of how quickly reality show people acclimate to being constantly on camera and how they forget the cameras are there, leading to some truly ridiculous behavior. Now transfer that to someone already used to wearing communicators on their body while at work; the reminder that the recording device is there is going to fade and people will behave however they want to behave. Furthermore, the footage will be spun by the people watching it to match whatever their preconceived notions are, most of which bend heavily in the officer's favor.

Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:53 (two months ago) Permalink

There are so many possible ways for body cams to fail on top of that, and even if they were proven to make a dent in brutality, they still can't be anywhere near the only strategy

Simon H., Friday, 8 December 2017 19:57 (two months ago) Permalink

i wasn't saying they should be the only strategy

treeship 2, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:58 (two months ago) Permalink

i'm wondering what it would take for a national "weinstein moment" in police violence against people of color to happen. video of men and women being murdered doesn't seem to do it. On tape white teen killed among a group of black teens?
it's a fucking cold country.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:58 (two months ago) Permalink

It would take white celebs getting assaulted.

Simon H., Friday, 8 December 2017 20:01 (two months ago) Permalink

the "weinstein movement" already happened when it comes to liberals. but the police and the government are controlled by republicans.

treeship 2, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:02 (two months ago) Permalink

there are still people on the left who deny that police violence is a serious issue of course but the consensus seems to be pro-police reform, pro-accountability.

treeship 2, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:03 (two months ago) Permalink

this event won't tip things if tamir rice didn't

treeship 2, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:03 (two months ago) Permalink

none of the cameras or whatever matter as long as they're trained to say 'in fear for my life' and the law is written to permit juries to let that fly

j., Friday, 8 December 2017 20:29 (two months ago) Permalink

I've never understood owning more than one belt at a given time

― Simon H., Friday, December 8, 2017 2:21 PM (thirteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

marcos, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:55 (two months ago) Permalink

oh christ wrong c&p error

marcos, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:56 (two months ago) Permalink

I profoundly regret watching that.

― Andrew Farrell, Friday, December 8, 2017 1:47 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

meant to quote this

marcos, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:56 (two months ago) Permalink

ugh i feel so depressed

marcos, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:56 (two months ago) Permalink

everything is so fucked

marcos, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:56 (two months ago) Permalink

maybe you should just give a second belt a try

j., Friday, 8 December 2017 21:15 (two months ago) Permalink

I hate how much that sequence of posts just made me laugh

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 8 December 2017 21:25 (two months ago) Permalink

On the plain-shown corruption end of the thread: several friends are among the 200 defendants on trial & facing 80 years in prison after the mass arrest of inauguration day protesters. (boy do i have stuff to say about this in a more appropriate thread)

These notes from the first days in the courtroom have several instances of cops denying things on the stand only to be immediately confronted with contradicting video or audio evidence.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9kdb3a/dystopian-sketches-from-inside-the-inauguration-protesters-trial

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 8 December 2017 21:26 (two months ago) Permalink

i laughed too thanks j

marcos, Friday, 8 December 2017 21:27 (two months ago) Permalink

it was brilliant timing

Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 8 December 2017 21:30 (two months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

this is just crazy and so sad
https://www.yahoo.com/news/alleged-swatting-hoax-ends-death-223700818.html

Spottie, Saturday, 30 December 2017 04:07 (one month ago) Permalink

damn. is this officially the first time swatting has lead to death?

Nhex, Saturday, 30 December 2017 05:08 (one month ago) Permalink

Looks like it

El Tomboto, Saturday, 30 December 2017 13:56 (one month ago) Permalink

looks like the LAPD have arrested a suspect. while the kansas cop who actually fired the shots is on paid administrative leave. sigh.

what an absolutely senseless nightmare for that family.

Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 30 December 2017 14:07 (one month ago) Permalink

this is infuriating. now instead of suicide by cop, it's "homicide by cop".

undoubtedly the police apologists will say "it's the fault of the person who made the false report" and yeah that's true to an extent, but for fuck's sake some level of threat assessment has to be done at the scene prior to shooting!

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 30 December 2017 14:36 (one month ago) Permalink

Abolish gamers

Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Saturday, 30 December 2017 15:44 (one month ago) Permalink

otm

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 30 December 2017 15:45 (one month ago) Permalink

they arrested the person who made the false report and of course in the statement by law enforcement, all blame for the death was placed on him. which tbf, yeah he invented a scenario where he killed his father and poured gasoline around the house, but....idk maybe check it out before shooting guys?

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 30 December 2017 15:46 (one month ago) Permalink

(I mean yes, it was equally false reporter's fault and he should see heavy jail time as they've done this like ten+ times apparently)

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 30 December 2017 15:46 (one month ago) Permalink

i'm sure more details will come out but.. did this SWAT cop just see an unarmed man open the door and shoot him? really?

Nhex, Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:22 (one month ago) Permalink

the claim is that he thought he saw the unarmed man's hand "moving towards his waistband" bleagh

Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:26 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm honestly surprised that you (or anyone) is surprised that yet another murdering pig scumbag has murdered someone for no fucking reason yet again and will no doubt get away with it yet again

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:32 (one month ago) Permalink

i am not surprised fwiw.

Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:46 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah shame on me i guess

Nhex, Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:49 (one month ago) Permalink

but bear in mind swatting has happened many many times in the last decade, this is (as far as I know) the first time it finally ended up with someone getting killed

Nhex, Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:50 (one month ago) Permalink

John Cole:

Obviously, this does not excuse the evil behavior of those who called in the hoax, but jesus fucking christ, maybe we have a policing problem when they show up and start shooting before they even know what the hell is going on? What if that had been a hostage coming to the door (as it was, it was already a completely innocent person)? Why bother calling the cops in a hostage crisis if they are just going to open fire, kill ’em all, and let god sort it out.

Just thinking outside the fucking box, here, but maybe decades of pretending the police are infallible and deserve our complete unflinching support and that we bow down at their feet for people who have a job less dangerous than a lumberjack combined with shitty pay, long hours, no chance of punishment for fuckups, and arming them to the teeth with weapons they do not need is also a problem here?

El Tomboto, Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:17 (one month ago) Permalink

idk gamers still suck for sounding like they're just realizing all of this in 2017

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Sunday, 31 December 2017 03:42 (one month ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Blood is fucking boiling rn

Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:50 (one week ago) Permalink

jesus. i live in NY and hadn't heard about that Anna Chambers thing

Nhex, Thursday, 8 February 2018 01:59 (one week ago) Permalink

i think someone bumped another thread about this a couple weeks ago but is there any non-local news coverage (other than one nyt article) about the baltimore police trial? is it that boring and common to have cops rob people now?

assawoman bay (harbl), Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:05 (one week ago) Permalink

maybe?

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:55 (one week ago) Permalink

it's kind of in the mass shootings of 5 people or less category. definitely noteworthy, but no longer national news

Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:57 (one week ago) Permalink

kind of fucked up

Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:58 (one week ago) Permalink

i just assume most cops are doing some kind of dirt now

j., Thursday, 8 February 2018 03:04 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah, it's true, what karl said. i just have so much to say about how sublimely bad these cops were. and how many other, un-charged cops they have testified about, and how people are still on this "but most cops are still heroes who keep my family safe" tip.

assawoman bay (harbl), Friday, 9 February 2018 01:24 (one week ago) Permalink


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