Attack on Titan - Cartoon and Manga

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that is wonderful

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 12:59 (nine years ago) link

i was watching the female titan ep last night and thinking about how good the show is at creating a sense of geographic space. first w/ the city itself and the walls surrounding it, but also w/ the scouting formation. they had to spend some of their time setting it up (w/ the chart and narration) but it was totally worth it.

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:07 (nine years ago) link

This is good then is it? I like the premise. Watched a clip where one of the titans had a well-groomed moustache, which I thought was a bit silly.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:11 (nine years ago) link

i really like it

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:14 (nine years ago) link

I do wish it were faster-paced. I feel like a lot of the agonizing these characters do could just be implied.

jmm, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:22 (nine years ago) link

The theme tune is great. Haven't watched the actual show yet.

emil.y, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:28 (nine years ago) link

haven't watched this yet but that gif is fantastic

Nhex, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:28 (nine years ago) link

I do wish it were faster-paced. I feel like a lot of the agonizing these characters do could just be implied.

this is a big manga/anime trope tho, right? the long over-emotive monologues to convey character development?

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:30 (nine years ago) link

There's some truth to that but OTOH most of these characters have watched giants stomp on and/or eat their loved ones, so a lot of the angst is justified

I really like that 2 of the 3 main protagonists are portrayed as having been ruthless killers from childhood because it's done in a way that heightens the insanity of the world they live in and turns the various cliche beats that ring through those types of stories into virtues.

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:34 (nine years ago) link

xp especially when directly adapted from a manga source, but it seems like it's gotten worse over the last decade or so (see: Deathnote)

Nhex, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:34 (nine years ago) link

hahahahaha oh Death Note

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link

Watched like 3 eps of this and couldn't get into it at all

, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:38 (nine years ago) link

oh that's too bad; it kind of goes bananas in ep 5

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:52 (nine years ago) link

I still need to finish the last few episodes. The female titan sequence was fantastic, the high point of the series so far.

jmm, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:59 (nine years ago) link

Watched like 3 eps of this and couldn't get into it at all

I watched half an ep and thought it seemed overly serious and dumb (bad combo). super ugly looking too. but I guess I should give it a real go sometime.

original bgm, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 14:46 (nine years ago) link

the way this was talked about i thought it'd be like FLCL or something, was surprised it wasn't wacky humor

also thought the 25 first season eps were the whole series, around ep 20 i was thinking "soooo we gonna wrap this up or"

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link

i like the comics better than the cartoon honestly because you can read at the pace you wanna. the toon does indeed drag and, if you HAVE read the comix, follows the book so exactly that it's really unnecessary.
It's a lot like death note really.
What was that link about how Titan is just about teen angst?

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 18:18 (nine years ago) link

omg man, this is the polar opposite of "wacky humor"

I can't even imagine how this would play if done as wacky humor

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 18:18 (nine years ago) link

titan slowly chewing figure between his ragged teeth, fozzie grinning, "wacka, wacka, wacka"

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link

I watched half an ep and thought it seemed overly serious and dumb (bad combo). super ugly looking too. but I guess I should give it a real go sometime.

― (⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:46 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

Yeah this was pretty much my reaction

When I realized the titans were just gonna be landscape shrubbery and the real pith of the series was gonna be in a morality play between the characters I quit watching

, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link

^^ why i watch

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

There is a kind of wacky humour to how the titans are depicted -- it adds to their scariness.

jmm, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link

its utterly bizzare and horrifying

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link

there's something body-horroresque about it

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link

yeah, the titans are these pure brainless eating machines that can't be reasoned with and for that reason alone they're pretty horrible.

also I own the manga but haven't read it in part due to the art being so fucking ugly in comparison to the series (but everyone says the manga is better so I'll pick it up eventually).

When I realized the titans were just gonna be landscape shrubbery and the real pith of the series was gonna be in a morality play between the characters I quit watching

idk about that, I mean like 90% of episodes are all "we know nothing about the titans! and yet they are like us! except giant naked maneaters!" so you have to assume that mystery's getting revealed at some stage.

gyac, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 20:29 (nine years ago) link

fwiw, it IS revealed (at least partially) and it's a fucking strange storyline

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link

giant naked maneaters WITH NO GENITALIA

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link

uh yeah - considering the no genitalia element how did they know that the female titan was a female? bc she had a feminine face and blond hair?

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link

yeah I'm guessing they went off of the breasts

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link

so... titanic mammary glands?

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link

^ Rejected Morrissey lyrics

, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 20:35 (nine years ago) link

"hey, look at the ass on that titan"

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 20:36 (nine years ago) link

also this titan was fun
http://25.media.tumblr.com/3199dc16377288146e0293ba105d11b2/tumblr_mmrqexx3EH1r61nxjo1_400.gif

gyac, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link

idk about that, I mean like 90% of episodes are all "we know nothing about the titans! and yet they are like us! except giant naked maneaters!" so you have to assume that mystery's getting revealed at some stage.

― gyac, Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:29 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah I figured, just didn't wanna stick around til the reveal... hope it's as cool as the EVA angels

, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 20:39 (nine years ago) link

tru titan fans will share

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link

i just finished S1 of this on netflix last night. it's not the kind of thing i'd usually watch, but my little sister is obsessed with it and she wanted company. it feels weirdly too slow AND too fast: there's all these lugubrious monologues about the nature of humanity, but there's also an endless whirl of characters who pop up and have a moment before fading back into the crowd, and i struggled to keep track of them. but damn was the action stuff satisfying! the 3D maneuvering gear allows such great visuals.

compassionate sports, electronic father (reddening), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 20:44 (nine years ago) link

i like that subaru commercial cause it's implying that humanity is doomed and civilization is coming to an end and all technology will soon be pointless in the oncoming genocide but hey buy a subaru

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 13 September 2014 05:50 (nine years ago) link

You can either figure out 3D maneuver gear or buy a Subaru. These are your post-apocalyptic options.

jmm, Saturday, 13 September 2014 13:45 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

kind of a phenomena, no? we started watching because cyrus said he wanted to learn japanese. so, really, the first non-dubbed japanese show he has ever watched. and i love that he has no problem with the subtitles. amazing how it has taken off here. at the FYE store in town there are AOT books and bookbags and blankets and t-shirts. we all love it. i bought maria a plush AOT blanket.

scott seward, Friday, 3 October 2014 12:41 (nine years ago) link

it's a p big crossover everywhere tbf

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 3 October 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link

eight months pass...

weird to see attack on titan posters in suburban canadian walmarts

dylannn, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

i never noted a general anime thread but
i've been watching BLOOD BLOCKADE BATTLEFRONT
and i got through psycho pass and then psycho pass II before not finishing it
plastic memories
mushi shi, danmachi

dylannn, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link

just say no titan style
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-SxpqLVPt4

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 June 2015 21:42 (eight years ago) link

four weeks pass...

the (unintentionally?) hilarious crossover depilatory sponsorship
http://www.tbc.co.jp/campaign/shingeki-bijin/
http://www.tbc.co.jp/campaign/shingeki-bijin/img_pc/img-female-kv02.jpg

let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 30 July 2015 14:29 (eight years ago) link

Cultural commentators Patrick Macias and Matt Alt weigh in - http://patrickmacias.blogs.com/er/podcasts/

MaresNest, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link

apparently the film is awful :-(

jamiesummerz, Thursday, 6 August 2015 12:19 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...
two years pass...

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/attack-on-titan-books
massive 22 volume ebook collection plus numerous spin offs for $18 to benefit the ACLU

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:39 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

just watching the anime now, just finished season 3. absolutely incredible imo.

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 28 April 2021 20:31 (two years ago) link

https://www.vice.com/en/article/7kvpj4/everyone-loves-attack-on-titan-so-why-does-everyone-hate-attack-on-titan

just a bit about the politics. Some people say it's nazi stuff, some say it's complex, some say it's too incoherent to have a real viewpoint.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 22:07 (two years ago) link

i lean toward the latter with a dose of both first and second in the mix

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 April 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link

I’m not reading a Vice hot take about other people’s Nazi tendencies

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Wednesday, 28 April 2021 23:03 (two years ago) link

Kazuma Hashimoto (who wrote that first Polygon article) is a good follow on twitter if you're interested in politics and LGBTQ issues in Japan.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 30 April 2021 09:07 (two years ago) link

just watching the anime now, just finished season 3. absolutely incredible imo.


I started watching this again after the four year or whatever it was gap between seasons. Am simultaneously reading it as well. Can only agree with this, s3 is really great and it’s so different from s1 which I thought was incredible already.

I’m not fully read on the politics of the situation so caveats but I basically agree that it’s muddled and complex at once and there are certainly some dodgy implications to some of the imagery.

Dot Pixis being based on this guy is well known. The main twist of the series - what’s in the basement, Eldia and Marley and all that, is rather murkier. Eldians are clearly meant to Jewish analogues at least part of the time - they are forced into ghettoes by the Marleyans and forced to wear armbands with yellow stars. It’s about as subtle as a thunder spear to the head.

However the story itself first alludes to the Eldians potentially having oppressed other countries (massive red flag) except then that it turns out that this itself was propaganda for the justification for their oppression. It reminded me somewhat of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion being used as rationalisation to oppress Jewish people. If there is no ‘reason’, one will be invented.

The other thing, about Eldians being able to shift into Titans (which eat people) is obviously massively dodgy and people are right to flag that up as such! The thing that I think about this is how the Marleyans forcibly do it to their own population of Eldians to set them loose on the Eldians on Paradis - this reminded me of Nazi experimentation. I seriously doubt the author meant for the Eldians abandoned by their leader to remind me quite so much of Northern Ireland, but it did. I have read other people saying that the dynamics reminded them of Rwanda and that Paradis is based on Madagascar reminded them of the Madagascar plan, but I am not even close to being well informed enough to comment on either of those.

The series thinks a lot about violence: its pointlessness, how sacrifice is so rarely rewarded and yet upheld as the most glorious of virtues, the cycle of violence. An interesting thing about the anime is that it maps the progression of this theme with its own framing - the first part of series 1 has the super-militaristic opening and absolute banger of a theme tune, but by the time you’re on s3 the opening is past and present, past and present, how history shapes the present and it’s a very different story.

Anyway I will update this at some point when I finish reading the thing as it’s not by any means a complete picture, but a lot of the critique I’ve read out there and upthread seems to focus on plot points that I’ve already passed.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 10:07 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

Last episodes coming really soon, I never did go back and finish reading the manga (I’m still reading it but it’s long and your man’s art is slow to improve).

suggest bainne (gyac), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 21:56 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

The new episodes are out, I realised today, but is anyone on here watching?

mardheamac (gyac), Sunday, 20 February 2022 17:01 (two years ago) link


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