http://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/bloodlines-1-e1426695663875.jpg?w=750this looks interesting! coach taylor, da sleazeball character actor GAWD ben mendelsohn, sissy spacek (!), linda cardellini (!!), chloe sevigny at some point later in the show apparently - great cast for starters
as a complete noir addict i'm absurdly predisposed to like this, about to fire up the pilot. anyone else watching?
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 20 March 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link
cast looks great, premise sounds awful. so sick of DARK and GRITTY dramas about SSSSEEEECRETSSSSS
― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Friday, 20 March 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
that said I'll watch the first couple
― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Friday, 20 March 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link
that is a fair concern to have. i will say that thus far, voiceover aside, it seems like it's more pulpy and scuzzy than ponderous and (faux)profound. like it's played straight but i don't know just yet how seriously it's taking itself.
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 20 March 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
hopefully not very. and the voiceover, on 2nd thought, might actually be laying it on thick intentionally, as so many noirs have.
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 20 March 2015 20:50 (nine years ago) link
Just added it to my queue, but I've still got a couple other things I'm backed up on and need to get through.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 20 March 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
i would not be interested in this at all based on the trailer/premise, but a contemporary novelist i really like (Arthur Phillips) is on the writing staff, and the cast does look interesting.
― lil urbane (Jordan), Friday, 20 March 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link
liked the pilot enough to keep watching. the acting, especially mendelsohn and chandler, and the visual atmosphere are the best things about it. the premise isnt anything groundbreaking, to be sure, but noir is all about execution anyway.
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 20 March 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
dialogue - the crown jewel of all good crime fic & noir imo - is good for the most part if occasionally way on the nose. mostly in the narration. I can already sense the mockery that will befall the pilot's closing line, "we're not bad people BUT WE DID A BAD THING" once the more zing-centric critics and viewers get their hands on it. and I sort of understand a desire to roast that line & the antihero epidemic that leads to such lines. but if that's the worst thing I can say about something I otherwise like, it's an acceptable watching risk, imo.
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 20 March 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link
well tbf that does make it sound like the fake prestige crime drama the characters on The Good Wife watch
― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Friday, 20 March 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link
yeah I watched two and I think that's it for me
― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Sunday, 22 March 2015 15:00 (nine years ago) link
I've also watched 2, will give it a bit more time bc of mendelsohn, chandler and the all too brief chloe sevigny appearance. the "hothead" brother is fucking annoying as hell
― slothroprhymes, Sunday, 22 March 2015 17:37 (nine years ago) link
He is awful. The self-seriousness really kills this for me. And yeah, needs way more Sevigny.
― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Sunday, 22 March 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link
five in & currently watching the sixth. it gets better as it goes along, but the real trick - if that wasn't readily apparent from the pilot - is viewing danny as the main character and not kyle chandler.
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 23 March 2015 03:36 (nine years ago) link
i am on the last one
― lag∞n, Monday, 23 March 2015 03:47 (nine years ago) link
def riding the trashy prestige drama wave
― lag∞n, Monday, 23 March 2015 03:48 (nine years ago) link
the worst sibling is the excitable lil pig kevin
― lag∞n, Monday, 23 March 2015 03:49 (nine years ago) link
ha he just behaved poorly right as i said that
― lag∞n, Monday, 23 March 2015 03:51 (nine years ago) link
Is this what you'd call 'southern gothic'?
― paolo, Monday, 23 March 2015 09:36 (nine years ago) link
nah, it'd have to be a lot weirder to fit that bill imo
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 23 March 2015 12:14 (nine years ago) link
the worst sibling is the excitable lil pig kevin --lag∞n
so loud and so dumb and so macho-whiny (the worst kind of whiny)
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 23 March 2015 12:19 (nine years ago) link
im enjoying this, about 5 eps in. this isn't really all that *fun* for a noir or a "southern gothic" or whatever it is and doesn't really seem to revel in its location as much as it could--maybe that's a good thing but the plot is pretty thin so far as well. so it's stuck halfway between plot-driven and atmosphere-driven with neither really delivering so far. still, im interested!
― ryan, Monday, 23 March 2015 12:48 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inB4esNoNTo
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Monday, 23 March 2015 12:57 (nine years ago) link
kind of just want this to be about sam shephard and sissy spacek running a hotel in florida... maybe having some fun adventures.
― tylerw, Monday, 23 March 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link
kinda unclear what the second season wld be about maybe they cld do a prequel
― lag∞n, Monday, 23 March 2015 14:59 (nine years ago) link
got to the ep where john apologizes to danny on the dock. was like "well that sure was nice, i bet this show is over" but then danny chopped that fish's head off after john left and the dramatic music plays and was like "oh is it".
― Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 March 2015 16:34 (nine years ago) link
bloodlines part 7: in which danny tries an even crazier drug
― Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 March 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link
i love danny he is cool
― lag∞n, Monday, 23 March 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link
**********SPOILERS *************
*****
lol watching the final ep i was all to myself howre they gonna do a second season with no danny maybe they cld have a character played by the same actor show up all like hi im cousin dougie, just then who arrives on the scene but... his son lmao
**********END SPOILERS *************
― lag∞n, Monday, 23 March 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link
i'm scared to watch. coach taylor deserves a show as good as nashville.
― scott seward, Monday, 23 March 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link
not reading that spoiler. so very tempting, but I won't. *nurses old arm injury*
― Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 March 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
nashville is still good? i liked season 1 but the start of season 2 left me cold even tho connie britton is good in anything, ever, at any time (it's a law)
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 23 March 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
(xp)
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 23 March 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
i finished the drug trip/bender episode last night, thought it and the one before it were the best eps thus far. there are pretty clear flaws even in the better episodes, but it's remained entertaining
#stillneedsmoresevigny
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 23 March 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link
i kinda can't stand norbert leo butz for some reason. maybe it was all the singing and dancing with john lithgow on t.v. years ago...
― scott seward, Monday, 23 March 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link
yes, still needs maurice vignier
― Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 March 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link
and watching the trailer thing makes me sad cuz freaks and geeks looks so sad! yeah, can they redo this show where freaks and geeks, coach taylor, sissy, and sam have a cool show.
― scott seward, Monday, 23 March 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link
i don't think i know who the british bad boy brother is. was he in lock stock and smoking barrels?
― scott seward, Monday, 23 March 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link
notable Ben Mendelsohn roles:-bad person and criminal in The Place Beyond the Pines-horrible person and criminal in Killing Them Softly-absolutely despicable person and criminal in Animal Kingdom
― Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 March 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link
all brilliant roles imo, esp. animal kingdom. he is one of my absolute favorite character actors.
also jessa's dad on girls!
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 23 March 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link
yeah, he's great
― Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 March 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link
scott, you should def see Animal Kingdom
― Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 March 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link
i'll check it out.
― scott seward, Monday, 23 March 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
one of the best $3 used dvd purchases i ever made!
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 23 March 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
ya ben mendelsohn is good stuff
― lag∞n, Monday, 23 March 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link
yeah he pretty much single-handedly makes this show addictive, and I like Coach and Lindsay Weir
― Brio2, Monday, 23 March 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link
and Carrie and Chuck Yeager!
― Brio2, Monday, 23 March 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link
really liking the back half of the season for its increased charles willeford/late 80s elmore leonard feel
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 04:43 (nine years ago) link
(lot more serious/straightfaced than those guys though, to its partial detriment)
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 04:44 (nine years ago) link
ya feel like they approached some leonard vibes and almost reached out and touched faith but ultimately dealing wit leonards plot mechanisms is too terrifying for every filmmaker, having the story turn on that tape of the childhood interrogation is nearly leonardian tho i will admit
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 04:46 (nine years ago) link
shark tooth necklace perhaps the best
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 17:08 (nine years ago) link
hes a salty dog
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 17:08 (nine years ago) link
i'll take salty hothead ANY day over snakeshark.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link
you don't think Danny seems tragic in any way? maybe even just a richard III way?
― ryan, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link
i don't think danny is inherently a snake at all but def has it in him. he's an abused animal lashing out at the people who actually and directly abused him (his father) and because of either inborn issues or being too far gone is roping in people who indirectly hurt him & who he perceives as directly hurting him.
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 17:42 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Wednesday, April 8, 2015 1:08 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nah man he's a pig, you tweeted about this weeks ago and ever since it's been an unshakable perception of mine because his face is so thoroughly piglike!
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link
http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0gyiqqzBO1rr5f7co1_400.jpg
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link
i have, you know, empathy for people in general. and most fucked up people have a good story as to how they got that way. but the snakeshark is just my least favorite fucked up person to deal with. because of that snakey/smug grin. like they want to tell you an amusing story and then eat you.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, April 8, 2015 1:48 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link
but the snakeshark is just my least favorite fucked up person to deal with. because of that snakey/smug grin. like they want to tell you an amusing story and then eat you.
― scott seward, Wednesday, April 8, 2015 1:54 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ya i know something fascinating that you dont is one of the worst vibes for a person to project
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
imho the key thing the show did was to make the origin/true nature of dannys terribleness ambiguous
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link
an ex-junkie manipulative hard-done-by snakeshark acquaintance of mine was making grand statements on FB about how he'd never identified intensely with a fictional character until seeing Danny so I think Scott's onto something
― Brio2, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 17:59 (nine years ago) link
butz is just a broadway baby thus a big ham...
http://d3rm69wky8vagu.cloudfront.net/article-photos/large/1.158766.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link
Even though the Danny character is compelling and Mendelsohn so clearly owns whatever scene he's in, I kept wondering if he got the wrong notes or something...like he was playing on-the-nose snakeshark instead of the pro sociopath who successfully manipulates people precisely because he doesn't SEEM snakesharky. Like has no member of the Rayburn family ever been exposed to sarcasm before? He sits down at dinner and he's like, "Yeah, this should be A LOT OF FUN, I really LOVE you guys," and they're all "Oh, that's nice, welcome home."
I chugged this show down and feel like it got better +/- with each episode, but I think they really dropped the ball not making Danny harder to read.
― Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link
you could make an argument that all that reflects a kind of wishful thinking on the family's part--avoidance of fate, wrongs forgiven, and all that.
― ryan, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link
oh for sure
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link
xxp think Danny plays it pretty well on the edge the whole time before the tape pushes him over
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link
I was pretty shocked by the check scene. I think that scene was designed to be shocking, and it wouldn't work if you think Danny is full snakeshark by that point.
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link
http://youtu.be/_tVOqZIC8qU?t=33s
― Evan, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link
otm
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
xxp yeah i agree with that he doesn't like, have all his plans in place then even if he prob would be fine with selling some dope to pay off his debts. the check & the tape are what seals the deal w/him to not only take care of his biz but also do so while potentially fucking his family over by making them accessories after the fact
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link
i liked the last two episodes of this and part of me kinda wishes they would just take the mini-series approach sometimes and let something be one and done.
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 April 2015 20:09 (nine years ago) link
season 2
― am0n, Sunday, 29 May 2016 03:54 (seven years ago) link
hearing decent things about it, and while i'm sure the mechanisms involved in bringing flashbacks to the show will be deus ex machina as all hell i can't really complain about more ben mendelsohn, will check some of it out soon
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Sunday, 29 May 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link
this show makes me wanna go fishing
― am0n, Sunday, 29 May 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link
It's exhausting. Same pacing as the first season. Watch the first two episodes and the last two episodes and you'll be good.
― Benjamin-, Sunday, 29 May 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link
but then you miss out on chloe sevigny
― am0n, Sunday, 29 May 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link
will watch after i finish easy living. and lady dynamite.
― scott seward, Sunday, 29 May 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link
lol @ frosty and rollins band
― am0n, Sunday, 29 May 2016 19:25 (seven years ago) link
God this show is glum. Not even "dark"—just completely bereft of humor. In real life, even (especially?) in grim times, people do and say funny things. A little comic relief would go a long away.
That said w/ the Danny stuff resolved I didn't expect to get into this season, but they've put together a tight plot and the acting is excellent across the board. Leguizamo is a pleasant surprise and I'm digging the Cape Fear vibe
― Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 13:48 (seven years ago) link
Low point of every episode remains the titles with that godawful song, specifically when the words Norbert Leo Butz appear over time-lapse thunderstorm
― Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 13:54 (seven years ago) link
getting a real bass player from van halen vibe off kevin in this series
― real orgone kid (NickB), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 13:56 (seven years ago) link
― Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 14:01 (seven years ago) link
But needs to smile more to really pull it off. Why were those guys always laughing w/ their instruments?, weird dudes
― Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 14:06 (seven years ago) link
they were really stoned. and drunk.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 14:09 (seven years ago) link
either way i would not trust them to run a marina
― real orgone kid (NickB), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 14:13 (seven years ago) link
http://www.vhnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/original_photo_woman_model_Crazy_From_The_Heat.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 14:21 (seven years ago) link
"on tonight's episode, a dangerous visitor from the past..."
http://www.vhnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/story5.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 14:24 (seven years ago) link
nudge from the judge
http://www.hollilla.com/images/2/6/e/26e3629b5526e8be65a4df0cff1b6531_244875.JPEG
― Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 14:28 (seven years ago) link
http://www.aguitarforum.com/data/attachments/55/55150-c32300cb6c16722a197470686ed398b0.jpg
― Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link
I enjoyed the second season but then again I am a sucker for slow burning noirish crime dramas
― paolo, Friday, 22 July 2016 08:36 (seven years ago) link
I did think the bit at the end with Kevin killing Marco was a bit much though. Did he think that this would save John and Meg or did he just panic?
― paolo, Friday, 22 July 2016 08:38 (seven years ago) link
he just panicked
― sarahell, Friday, 22 July 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link
I thought that was the case but it seemed very out of character as Kevin hasn't been violent before if I remember right. Great show overall though, very atmospheric
― paolo, Saturday, 23 July 2016 10:24 (seven years ago) link
Can someone clarify something for me, having just finished season 1? the first few episodes lean pretty heavily on a flash-forward scene of John dragging Danny through the swamp in striped seersucker suits. At about episode 8-9 you see that the suits are for Meg's wedding but Danny dies and Meg doesn't actually get married. Did I miss something major (like a whole episode!!) ?
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Sunday, 6 November 2016 18:42 (seven years ago) link
cancelled, from what I read....did season 2 end on a cliffhanger?
― akm, Sunday, 6 November 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link
It's been cancelled after season 3.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Sunday, 6 November 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link
We chained eight episodes of season three yesterday - the bent coroner is straight into the pantheon of great minor characters.
I hope the cancellation doesn't mean they haven't brought the whole thing to a satisfying conclusion.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link
First half of the last series was quite good but those final episodes were a complete crock
― paolo, Monday, 16 October 2017 08:47 (six years ago) link
I enjoyed the bleakness of the conclusion well enough but the second series had clearly set a number of plates in motion that they weren't able to resolve in time. I got the distinct impression that a number of plotlines had been very hastily rewritten once the series was cancelled - characters just suddenly keeling over and dying or shooting themselves in the head etc.
― Matt DC, Monday, 16 October 2017 09:12 (six years ago) link