a hot dog is

some disputation: http://firstwefeast.com/eat/philosophy-of-meat-bread/

a hot dog is delicious pig parts mashed into a tube i don't understand the question

on the atkins, i see

it's a pie

Why is there a picture of a sausage sandwich in the hot dog thread

indeed, quite cantankerous of you to deploy sausagebutty.jpg there j

the world is full of messy cases, it is our job to bring order to the chaos by carving nature at the joints (the fda has ruled that the joints cannot be added to the meat vat)

to me a sandwich is food between two pieces of bread. not sure if that's what a hotdog is.

^ a sly one

if a lobster roll is a sandwich, then a hot dog is a sandwich

any particular reason you've chosen hot dogs for this question j? literally everything can be categorised as either a sandwich or not a sandwich

Do we tell him about subway?

(dl)

i guess a filled baguette would count as a sandwich if you're going to be obstreperous about it, but i'd still be surprised if someone said they were buying a sandwich and then came out with a baguette (or a hotdog for that matter).

Yeah, no, a hotdog is not a sandwich. Nobody goes around eating a hotdog and saying 'I am eating a sandwich'.

nor should they, they might choke

literally everything can be categorised as either a sandwich or not a sandwich

you need your choice of categories to be responsive to reality otherwise it is merely an arbitrary imposition, like chopping the world up and putting it into your category-shaped tubes despite not actually ever taking that tube form in nature

I thought hot dogs were a pizza crust stuffing.

that just raises the additional problem of whether pizzas can have sandwiches as crusts

and whether pizzas can themselves be sandwiches

What isn't a hot dog?

xp well, is the pizzaburger a pizza?

is a calzone a sandwich? if i put chicken salad between two slices of domino's meateor is it a sandwich?

when i went to australia some schoolkids told me they don't have hot dogs, just sausages in sandwich bread

Are bunless pizza crust cheeseburgers sandwiches?

http://cdn.foodbeast.com.s3.amazonaws.com/content/uploads/2013/09/pizza-hut-cheeseburger-pizza.jpg

open-faced sandwiches, if they are

looks like one giant open-faced sandwich to me xp

basically i think i'm coming to the realisation that everything is a sandwich

Go ahead guys, go about your day to day life calling hot dogs sandwiches, go do that

xp but 'sandwiches' were invented at some point in human history

so what you're really saying is that the earl of sandwich DISCOVERED that everything was a sandwich

… was ALREADY a sandwich

had always been a sandwich

we're through the sandwich looking glass here for sure

it's sandwiches all the way down

http://content-img.newsinc.com/jpg/1171/28437689/18772360.jpg?t=1422290460

We have got onto slippery ice. Back to the rough ground meat.

This question has already been considered by Judge John Hodgman and he made his ruling here: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/05/04/magazine/04-one-page-magazine.html

He says: If your friend’s hot dog is a sandwich, why doesn’t he just cut it in half? HE CAN’T, CAN HE? Because it is not a sandwich, but a hot dog, indivisible and sui generis — a culinary anomaly so compelling that we actually eat it, even when it is cooked in a tank on a cart.

your mom

wtf, of course you can cut a hot dog in half

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n289/billyboy71_2006/NJ%20Hot%20Dog%20Tour%202009/IMG_0104.jpg

this is like some reverse-king-solomon shit

(i realise those aren;t halves of the same dog but you get my meaning)

xp how is it reverse, he cut the baby in half just like that

not so sure he did tbh

any particular reason you've chosen hot dogs for this question j? literally everything can be categorised as either a sandwich or not a sandwich

your mom is

A hot dog sandwich is always a sandwich. A hot dog is sometimes a sandwich. A cheese dog is never a sandwich. A chili dog is two sandwiches, surprisingly enough.

what about a corn dog?

like a 360-degree sandwich

Negative sandwich.

I have seen quasi-serious discussion of whether a hot dog is, or is not, a taco.

http://the-toast.net/tag/is-a-hot-dog-a-taco/

I have not seen (until now) discussion of whether a hot dog is a sandwich.

This raises (not begs) questions like: is a sandwich a taco? Is a taco a sandwich? The world awaits.

If stuff-in-a-pita is a sandwich, then why not a quesadilla or calzone?

A pizza folded in half is basically a taco.

http://www.midcenturymenu.com/2013/02/frankfurter-loaf-1967/

stunned

a copernican revolution

#notallbeef

WaPo: 'A hot dog is a taco. A steak is a salad. A Pop-Tart is a calzone.'

hot dog is a pizza via the Four Foods Theory

I don't think it's unfair to assert that resolving the mysteries posed itt is the first step towards universal accord between the peoples of the world.

ugh why is it always the "hot dog isn't a sandwich" people who need to pull out a fucking whiteboard and talk to ruth bader ginsburg

Hotdog is a sandwich.

This is one of my favorite threads.

Poll results are a classic case of hearts overruling minds.

see THIS is why ppl leave ilx

youre all morons

NOT A SANDWICH

― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, July 31, 2015 3:30 PM (three years ago)

^ still posts here

what unites us is greater than what divides us

hot dogs are like tattoos

― oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, July 31, 2015 1:52 PM (three years ago)

The French ones look like they got fused with welsh rarebit

― xelab, Friday, July 31, 2015 1:53 PM (three years ago)

xelab was responding directly to SG btw.

I would be willing to split the difference and accept that a hot dog is half a sandwich. Can we all agree on that much, at least?

Lunch, I am definitely of the school that there are degrees of sandwichness. A hot dog is more of a sandwich than, say, a suspension bridge is. But less than a BLT is.

It might (and perhaps has) been argued that a suspension bridge is just the filling in a discontinuous landmass sandwich.

god these poll results get me steamed

Steamed like a hot dog which is most assuredly not a sandwich, would u say?

Burgers are also not sandwiches

is an open-faced sandwich more or less of a sandwich than a hot dog, and if so why? (because it has sandwich in the name is not an answer i will accept)

By that logic, the Earl of Sandwich would also have been a sandwich.

Or would not have been, rather. And we all know that he was.

an open faced sandwich is not a sandwich

Bears a certain family resemblance one’d have to admit

I would submit that once you establish the bread-->meat-->bread arrangement, the burden of proof shifts to the "not a sandwich" party. And I have not seen one argument re: "not a sandwich" that has gone beyond "it doesn't feel like a sandwich to me."

yes and facts don't care about your feelings of course

I have not seen one argument re: "not a sandwich" that has gone beyond "it doesn't feel like a sandwich to me."

Fair point, PBKR, but. Let's not be too hasty in dismissing that argument on its face (or its open-ended).

A lot of categorization is exactly that. Let's say someone asks you what you want to eat and you say "oh, how about some soup?" Bowl of chicken noodle, cool. Bowl of chowder, okay. Bowl of gazpacho, hell yeah. Bowl of Cheerios... what the fuck?

Now. Somebody asks you what you want to eat and you say, "a sandwich." They bring you a BLT, cool. Croque-monsieur? Cool (even though it is not bread-meat-bread). They bring you an Oreo, you'd be like WTF. A taco? Um, thanks but huh?

A hot dog is a middle case. For a lot of people it does, in fact, hinge on whether it "feels" sandwichy.

Also the framing is flawed.
Peanut butter and jelly; grilled cheese. Neither is bread/meat/bread but both are definitely sandwiches.

A lot of categorization is exactly that. Let's say someone asks you what you want to eat and you say "oh, how about some soup?" Bowl of chicken noodle, cool. Bowl of chowder, okay. Bowl of gazpacho, hell yeah. Bowl of Cheerios... what the fuck?

cheerios relation to soup is not like hot dogs relation to a sandwich at all. soup is composed of vegetable and meat and stock/juice/water. a sandwich is meat between pieces of bread

(apart from the examples you have listed which are exceptions which prove the rule!)

an open faced sandwich is not a sandwich

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— JUNKYARDPOPSTAR (@HEFFYRAPS) July 12, 2019

I hate this, but I recently decided David Lee Roth is a genius. So I am paralyzed.

Hot dogs, when you really think about what they are, are horrifying. An affront to nature. And I feel that the best way to truly revolutionize them is to bring their inherent horror to the forefront where it cannot be ignored. This is what I do to your food. Enjoy.

Do you like? I have made your hot dog look like a centipede drizzled with the viscera of an unwell fish. Bon...apetit.

You know that JUNKYARDPOPSTAR (@HEFFYRAPS) is not really a chef right

completely disgusting foods our parents ate

#notallhotdogs

In much the same way that a corndog is unquestionably a popsicle, anyone who's willing to breach all bounds of human decency in preparing a hot dog is a chef in my book.

https://buttondown.email/theswordandthesandwich/archive/notable-sandwiches-89-hot-dog/

Of course, this is one of the defining debates in Internet history—it’s been addressed by everyone from Ruth Bader Ginsberg to John Hodgman, with associated verdicts by myriad major publications and many winking, smarmy Twitter-trend pieces besides. It’s been the subject of frenetic and often tedious contention for over a decade now.

But, dear readers, I wanted—no, needed—to seek out wisdom from higher authorities, rather than simply glean gristle and leftover bits of pre-prepared content and stuff them into the sausage casing of this column.

So I emailed thirty professors of semiotics, linguistics, ontology, psycholinguistics, information science and other pertinent disciplines, and encouraged these academics to get in touch.

I had two chicago dogs for dinner at home last night. Great sandwiches.

Tea is soup

Soup is tea probably more accurate.

I'm just going to refer to anything edible as "food" from now on and not bother being more specific

hot dogs are a Christmas movie are not a sandwich

"Sometimes a hotdog is just a hotdog (by the way, this must be written as one word, as it is a compound noun; "hot dog" describes a dog… that is hot). "

people who think English is German:

Sarah Stroup, Philologist and Professor of Classics, University of Washington
Jesse Sheidlower, Lexicographer, Columbia University; Former Editor-at-Large, The Oxford English Dictionary
Frankie Huang, Consulting Semiotician
J.D. Connor, Associate Professor, Media Studies, School of Cinematic Arts, University of Southern California
Jim Lohmar, Senior Lecturer of Classical Languages, College of Charleston

hot dog describes a sandwich
hotdog describes skiing

I'm on Team 'It's a Weird Sandwich, But Close Enough', in part because if it ain't a sandwich, then it's a freak of nature.

I think in degrees of sandwichness. A hot dog is more of a sandwich that than a chair is a sandwich.

But a BLT is more of a sandwich than a hot dog is.

Please see this story in which a man in New Zealand and a man in Spain Noth placed bread on the ground at the same time. For a brief time, the earth and everything on it was a sandwich.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a30633840/earth-sandwich/

Last night I was thinking that a definition of "sandwich" might be: some sort of protein wrapped in some sort of carbs, which would make you, dear reader, a sandwich—and I am a sandwich, as well.

This is funny, and this may be an idiotic question, but which part of the human body is a carb now?

mmmm parts of yr liver really and that's about it

You are meat in a skin casing. You are a sausage.

“You’d expect supermarkets around the world to have the exact same kind [of bread],” Naude told The World. “Apparently not.”

What?

this debate is a clear broth