Taking Sides: Tim Horton's Vs Starbucks

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Im drinking my second XL Tim's of the day so you know where Im standing.
Also you may marvel at the new Tim Horton's BAGET SANDWICHES!!! And at their plans to open 300 stores in New England and Upstate New York over the next few years.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 17 October 2002 17:50 (twenty-three years ago)

BAGET SANDWICHES!!!

Is this a misspelling of bagel or baguette?

Jody Beth Rosen, Thursday, 17 October 2002 17:58 (twenty-three years ago)

a lot of my canadian frends swear by Tim Hortons hot chocolate. Being 1/2 canadian i guess i do too.

Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 17 October 2002 18:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Baguette.
My bad.
But you could always have a bagel sandwich, you just gotta ask. I've even seen them chop a tea biscuit in half.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 17 October 2002 18:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Did Jerry Horne become the new product developer at TH's?

Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 17 October 2002 18:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Did you know that Tim Hortons' parent company is Wendys? *sigh*

As to the question at hand: Timmy's, of course! Starbucks doesn't have a drive-through.


ragnfild (ragnfild), Thursday, 17 October 2002 18:11 (twenty-three years ago)

I loathe Starbuck's, so I'm siding with Tim

luna.c (luna.c), Thursday, 17 October 2002 18:12 (twenty-three years ago)

They've been a major[ity?] shareholder for years, hence all the Tim Horton/Wendy's stores they've been building.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 17 October 2002 18:15 (twenty-three years ago)

call me an insane corporatist or a traitor to my nationality but i think i prefer starbucks. it's very difficult for me to conduct business in tim hortons and not be overwhelmed with sadness ... can't explain it.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Thursday, 17 October 2002 18:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Is it because the inside of most Tim's feel like being in a fast food restaurant?

Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 17 October 2002 18:41 (twenty-three years ago)

it's not *like* being in a fast food restaurant, it *is* being in a fast food restaurant. yeah ... tim's has no class. those gross uniforms they make the staff wear really turn me off (though i hear the staff at tim's are treated quite well).

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Thursday, 17 October 2002 18:47 (twenty-three years ago)

They're fast food resturants that don't mind you sitting in them for hours on end drinking coffee, not what ever guubble gop you have to order to get two shots of esspresso in a large coffee ('red eye dark venti' sounds like a disease not a coffee). They're also filled with more old people the Golden Griddle or Denny's combined.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 17 October 2002 18:56 (twenty-three years ago)

I actually know of one Starbucks with a drive-through window. Darn good thing that it's not convenient to my current commute -- I don't particularly like Starbucks but it would too tempting to swing by in the mornings.

j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 17 October 2002 18:58 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah tim's gets big ups on the old people front. oldies don't like starbucks because they can't understand the menu (you're right ... some of their products sound peculiarly like caffeine-exacerbated illnesses) and they don't understand why coffee would be $4.00.

i couldn't think of a more uncomfortable place to sit for hours than tim horton's though ...

i like starbucks because attractive people go there. you can sit for hours in a starbucks and look at pretty girls {or boys} ... often starbucks goes so far as to actually _employ_ these attractive people, for further eye-grazing. yum. intellectual meat market.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Thursday, 17 October 2002 19:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Uh, have you all forgotten about Second Cup, which is actually a Canadian chain? Golly, I move away for 4 years and look what happens!

Anyhow, some days call for Tim's (e.g. out with mom, driving to go pick your own apples or something) and some days call for Second Cup (post movie or shopping trip).

elisabeth k, Thursday, 17 October 2002 19:07 (twenty-three years ago)

good call, e. tim's does invoke a more 'wintry' experience as well. i always feel like i should put on snow boots and tread muddy slush all the way to the counter every time i'm in there.

second cup: nice muffins.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Thursday, 17 October 2002 19:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Second Cup couches have never failed to impress me with their lack of coffee stains on them. But I was trying to make this a more international clash of the titans.
Surprisingly no one else from the Big Smoke has registered on this. Second Cup, Starbucks, Timothy's, Dunkin Donuts, Krispy Kremes and Coffee Times all trying to replace Tim Horton's place in the hearts of the city folk.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 17 October 2002 19:33 (twenty-three years ago)

what is this tim horton;s of which you speak. feh.

g (graysonlane), Thursday, 17 October 2002 20:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Tim Horton's homesite given up above will make it all clear.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 17 October 2002 20:03 (twenty-three years ago)

TIM HORTON'S DOES NOT TREAT THEIR EMPLOYEES WELL.


ahem... I'm addicted though. I openly celebrated when I saw yesterday that they're opening a new one under Metro Hall. I'm so sick of the Java Joe's I'm currently stuck with. Now if they could just build another one a block south and a block west...

Kim (Kim), Thursday, 17 October 2002 22:36 (twenty-three years ago)

tim horton was decapitated, which isn't as cool as terry sawchuk's death by horseshoes but still pretty cool as far as hockey all star deaths go.

keith (keithmcl), Friday, 18 October 2002 02:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Eurgh. What were the details?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 October 2002 02:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Somebody on the 'worst provinces' thread accused BC of having no TH's. Not true. There were THREE in my hometown last time I was there, so there.

dave q, Friday, 18 October 2002 04:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Is it time for a Swiss Chalet v St Hubert thread?

Tag, Friday, 18 October 2002 07:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Chyaaa... like anybody actually goes INSIDE a St. Hubert!

But Swiss Chalet, hey it's almost 'festive special' time.

Kim (Kim), Friday, 18 October 2002 10:23 (twenty-three years ago)

In a cross-posting type thing, Starbucks charged me over $10 for a coffee and a sandwich in New York. Therefore no tip, even if it wasn't the serviing person who deserved my ire.

Also, Starbucks coffee tastes horrible. Untied airlines are all excited about the fact that they serve it - this is a BAD thing.

I wonder what coffee Northwest airlines serves?

Mark C (Mark C), Friday, 18 October 2002 10:38 (twenty-three years ago)

I've never been inside a St Hubert - Mrs Tag is from Toronto and won't touch it. Her parents bought me a Swiss Chalet gift voucher for Christmas when we visited a couple of years back. Yet I know Quebecoises who swear St Hubert is the patron saint of chicken eateries.

Incidentally, can someone explain the appeal of poutine to me, please?

Tag, Friday, 18 October 2002 10:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Eurgh. What were the details?

Horrific Jayne Mansfield stylee car crash. I know this from watching the Tim Horton biography on CBC -- I saw it only partly because of my love for english toffee cappucino, and partly for general hockey obsessiveness.

And I couldn't agree more with Mark C about Starbucks coffee, it tastes like battery acid.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 18 October 2002 11:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Somebody on the 'worst provinces' thread accused BC of having no TH's.

That would be me, I also make the same accusation of Vaughan and its Coffee Time craze. But Im coming from a town of 5000 that supports two Tim Hortons and have Moncton which has about 25 of them all busy.


I heart Saint Huberts. Driving or training through Quebec all the time I've learnt to love the chicken. (Dan to thread?)

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 18 October 2002 12:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Horrific Jayne Mansfield stylee car crash.

Yugh indeed. Well, RIP I guess.

partly for general hockey obsessiveness

Much about your secret passion for Don Cherry is revealed.

And I couldn't agree more with Mark C about Starbucks coffee, it tastes like battery acid.

One time a friend from Seattle was visiting and needed his coffee badly, but a Starbucks was all that was available. However, he went for it anyway, doubtless cursing to hjmself the whole time.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:09 (twenty-three years ago)

doesn't look like TH makes espresso drinks so i would have no use for it (if there were any in philly) - i started drinking americanos a few years back and i could never return to regular drip. About starbuck's, at least they have consistency, you know what you will get. I cannot tell you how many times i have been searching for a good fix in some podunk town or foreign country and have ended up with with the most awful excuse for an americano or latte imaginable. I was in Japan and a while back and and starbuck's was a godsend. Though I do enjoy those little cans of coffee you can buy everywhere. I sound like a yuppie or something but really i just love expresso...

g (graysonlane), Friday, 18 October 2002 15:29 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
Revive! Timmy's Lever-Up-the-Lip-and-Lose campaign is on again! So far I've gotten one "Please play again!" I am planning to win the big prize this time around.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

No, the riches will be mine. Tim owes me something.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

eleven years pass...

There was a KFC close by that closed down two years ago, remained empty, and has just reopened as a Tim Horton's. That makes seven within a kilometre-and-a-half of where I live (five sit-downs, one drive-thru, one inside a gas station). I'd say that's insane, but I make regular/occasional use of all the other six.

clemenza, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 00:20 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-39559323

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Monday, 22 May 2017 11:46 (nine years ago)

Drink every time you hear "Tim Horton's" in Somebody Knows Something, season 2.

rip van wanko, Monday, 22 May 2017 12:15 (nine years ago)

the creeping canadianisation of the uk continues apace - before we know it all our long-held cultural traditions will be swept aside in favour of hockey, degrassi and celine dion

ilx liberal moron team UNITE (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 May 2017 12:18 (nine years ago)

tim hortons is not canadian

i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 22 May 2017 15:46 (nine years ago)

oh christ here comes some hortonsplaining

🎡 it's grey pubic now, stoner blue 🎡 (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 May 2017 15:52 (nine years ago)

I agree with that in the sense of refusing to affirm a fucking donut chain as emblematic of Canadianness.

jmm, Monday, 22 May 2017 16:04 (nine years ago)

I mean, it's a publicly traded multinational with I think Brazilian majority ownership at this point, but it was founded in Canada, its headquarters are in Canada, and has the most branches in Canada. xps Jmm OTM though.

Tomorrow Begat Tomorrow (Sund4r), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:07 (nine years ago)

don't have the patience to explain to people all those details

tim hortons used to be ok over a decade ago

burger king owns them now

but put it this way, the nhl, an essentially american org, is more "canadian" than timmy's

i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:56 (nine years ago)

However you want to look at it, the Canadian national treasure angle is nothing but marketing. I don't know anyone who is a Tim Horton's customer. No-one seems to think about it or notice it. For shitty but cheap coffee 7-11 is where it's at. Or MacDonalds. Can't see them competing with eg. Greggs in Glasgow since the food is pretty horrible in comparison.

everything, Monday, 22 May 2017 17:16 (nine years ago)

otm

i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:17 (nine years ago)

Maybe BC is different? Tim Horton's is definitely a big deal in Ontario. (Also, my understanding is that, when BK and Tim Horton's merged, they set up their headquarters in Ontario?)

Tomorrow Begat Tomorrow (Sund4r), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:31 (nine years ago)

phew i'm glad my v serious post about the canadianisation of the uk is getting the forensic attention it deserves

🎡 it's grey pubic now, stoner blue 🎡 (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:34 (nine years ago)

P sure we'd be shooting the shit about Tim Horton's regardless. Also the top of the thread suggests that this might be the case:

Maybe BC is different?

Tomorrow Begat Tomorrow (Sund4r), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:38 (nine years ago)

that's very possible

but then again each province might as well be its own country right?

i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 22 May 2017 18:04 (nine years ago)

I have at least two Tim Hortons coffees a day--one on the way to work, one on the way home. Someone will often bring one in during the day. Don't know when or why they decided to forgo the possessive in their name. The original store was just Tim Horton.

http://www.where.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Unusual-Getaways-from-Toronto-First-Tim-Hortons.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 22 May 2017 18:18 (nine years ago)

They dropped the possessive apostrophe as a result of Quebec language laws. I don't know whether we're still supposed to read it as possessive.

jmm, Monday, 22 May 2017 18:27 (nine years ago)

Interesting! I just assumed it was because nobody cared about such stuff--there's actual history behind it.

clemenza, Monday, 22 May 2017 18:51 (nine years ago)

Tims, partly because I'm using their WiFi right now

Wet Pelican would provide the soundtrack (Myonga VΓΆn Bontee), Monday, 22 May 2017 18:55 (nine years ago)

(The answer to the question is easily Tims btw, mainly bc Starbucks is undrinkable horseshit and Tims makes a perfectly acceptable ultra-light roast, probably better than most other fast food places. For food, I don't think Tims is as good as they used to be but, again, you should still be able to get a decent ham sandwich and soup while everything at Starbucks seems like a bizarro perversion.)

Tomorrow Begat Tomorrow (Sund4r), Monday, 22 May 2017 19:03 (nine years ago)

Timmy big deal in Quebec as well. It's one of those institutions I keep criticising but when one of my european friends uses the same arguments than I do, I'll lose my shit and defend it to death.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 22 May 2017 19:04 (nine years ago)

i mean why would you get coffee at any of these establishments anyway

tonnes of nice coffee shops in vancouver at least

even smaller chains

i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 22 May 2017 19:15 (nine years ago)

Road trips

Tomorrow Begat Tomorrow (Sund4r), Monday, 22 May 2017 19:19 (nine years ago)

lol

is this a frequent thing for u

i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 22 May 2017 19:23 (nine years ago)

Long drives? Yes.

Tomorrow Begat Tomorrow (Sund4r), Monday, 22 May 2017 19:24 (nine years ago)

that's fair

i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 22 May 2017 19:26 (nine years ago)

i drove from vancouver to banff and i don't remember how many tims we passed by but i will say probably not many

we did stop at a white spot and white spot effing rules and i miss it so much

i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 22 May 2017 19:27 (nine years ago)

oh god I want to go to banff so so bad

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 22 May 2017 19:28 (nine years ago)

it was p cool

lots of people will tell you it's gotten too commercial/touristy but lots of beautiful hikes, parks, and drives in the surrounding areas

i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 22 May 2017 19:41 (nine years ago)

Yeah nothing wrong with White Spot whatsoever but that's another thread. Think there's probably more A&Ws than Tim Hortons in Vancouver and there's not even a glut of those.

everything, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 03:30 (nine years ago)

four months pass...

Starbucks doesn't have a buffalo-sauce latte:
http://www.grubstreet.com/2017/10/tim-hortons-introduces-buffalo-sauce-latte.html

Beret McKesson (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 17:58 (eight years ago)

Destroy both. IF they were the only two options I'd probably take starbucks just because I of strength/caffeine content.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 18:02 (eight years ago)

. it's very difficult for me to conduct business in tim hortons and not be overwhelmed with sadness

they opened one of these here (not canada), i went in when it was pretty new still i think, but overall yeah, pathetically sad place, and crazy expensive, i do not want to go there any more

j., Wednesday, 18 October 2017 00:50 (eight years ago)

Tim Hortons > the band Poison > 7-11 > literal poison > Starbucks (probably > the Buffalo latte)

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 02:46 (eight years ago)

Tbf, though, I had coffee from an American Tims on the way back after Thanksgiving/Columbus Day and it tasted completely wrong, more like 7-11 material, so that might affect rankings (especially if they're selling Buffalo lattes).

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 02:49 (eight years ago)

eleven months pass...

https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/9jz587/what_is_going_on_with_tim_hortons_why_are_their/

a great metaphor for a country in disarray

F# A# (∞), Sunday, 30 September 2018 17:53 (seven years ago)

eleven months pass...

When I was 10 or 11, 7-Up had these promotional cans in Canada where the bottom was a picture of Lighthouse or Edward Bear or Crowbar (maybe the Guess Who, too), with their name above the photo. I can't find any online evidence, but my memory is not faulty here--I was talking about them with a friend one day.

The last couple of days (and into the foreseeable future), my paper coffee cup has an illustration of Shawn Mendes on there.

http://i.dam-img.rfdcontent.com/cms/006/061/029/1000x400_crop-north-force.jpg

This is not progress. I want to go back.

clemenza, Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:00 (six years ago)

six years pass...

I'm always mindful of crossing symbolic barriers in terms of getting-old, and I think I crossed one today: an email to Tim Hortons concerning tea biscuits.

clemenza, Sunday, 18 January 2026 20:08 (four months ago)

two months pass...

Maddening: how much Tim Hortons elevates mobile orders over human beings standing in line...They'll have one very over-worked student filling mobile order after mobile order while five of us stand waiting; the student won't even make eye contact with anyone in line because that's what they've been told to do, attend to mobile no matter how many walk-in people are waiting. I'm quite sure there's some sound cost-time-profit analysis behind this strategy, which doesn't make it any less maddening if you're one of those walk-ins.

clemenza, Wednesday, 15 April 2026 00:09 (two months ago)

(a) TimBits (b) Iced Capp
The defence rests

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 15 April 2026 05:02 (two months ago)

huh, I have a Tim Horton's about 2 minutes walk from my house which is perpetually understaffed so I once made a mobile order thinking it might be faster but it took me about 5 minutes to get somebody's attention when I got there and they had not even started on my order. It would have been quicker to just wait in line. Though I guess the highest priority at my Tim Horton's is very clearly the drive-through.

silverfish, Wednesday, 15 April 2026 15:48 (two months ago)

Where are you? I'm moving there...Mobile rules the world in St. Marys.

clemenza, Wednesday, 15 April 2026 15:56 (two months ago)

This is in Montreal (or I guess Saint-Laurent, if you want to be specific), I wouldn't move here for this Tim Horton's, see the "perpetually understaffed" part of my previous response.

silverfish, Wednesday, 15 April 2026 17:26 (two months ago)

The scant Tim Hortons in the UK sell breaded chicken and potato wedges and no sandwiches

Sgt. Biscuits, Wednesday, 15 April 2026 17:31 (two months ago)


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