Anime for people who hate anime

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Inspired by this exchange on the Evangelion thread:

while mourning my lack of fresh Eva content I've spent most of today trying to find other anime series that I don't find intensely grating on one level or another - after a bunch of false starts, Masaaki Yuasa's stuff seems pretty solidly up my alley

― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Sunday, September 13, 2015 1:48 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

who am I kidding I will totally rewatch it when 4.0 comes out, this franchise is built on (and fosters) masochism

― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Sunday, September 13, 2015 2:04 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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simon, have you seen either mushi-shi, serial experiments: lain or kino's journey? they aren't at all like eva tone-wise but pretty much free from most anime cliches and are v cerebral and emotionally engaging.

― hello, it me (clouds), Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:02 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^ all 3 of those are excellent, especially Mushishi. Someone should make a anime recommendation site for people who hate anime

― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:09 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I have not but Lain is on my to-check-out consideration list. Currently watching Ping Pong, which feels oddly substantive given the subject matter? I've seen Bebop (eh) and FLCL (neat). Basically hated what I saw of Death Note, Future Diary, and a few others that aren't immediately coming to me.

― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Sunday, September 13, 2015 4:19 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the biggest problem is that all anime gets marketed essentially the same in english-speaking countries, as if "anime" were one monolithic genre -- so you get this phenomenon of the same people recommending in the same breath stuff made for teenage boys like death note also recommending more complex shows like steins;gate or the others i mentioned. it seems to me that the targeted demographic for these shows are quite distinct in japan, though i could be wrong.

― hello, it me (clouds), Sunday, September 13, 2015 5:00 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is exactly why i had a bad time whenever i went to an anime convention

― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Sunday, September 13, 2015 7:47 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

anyway all of anno's pre-eva miyazaki-inspired series nadia is on hulu and i recommend it; it's very digressive but also very charming. another gentle, kinda perfect, nontraditional anime, by lain's character designer: haibane renmei

― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Sunday, September 13, 2015 7:49 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

attending an anime convention sounds like my idea of hell!

― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, September 13, 2015 8:54 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Monday, 14 September 2015 01:23 (four years ago) link

Coffee

brimstead, Monday, 14 September 2015 01:44 (four years ago) link

welp that's Nichijou added to the queue

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Monday, 14 September 2015 01:50 (four years ago) link

lol

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 14 September 2015 02:27 (four years ago) link

paranoia agent

in 72 point bold red font

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Monday, 14 September 2015 03:55 (four years ago) link

yeah that one

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 14 September 2015 03:59 (four years ago) link

<3 nichijou

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 14 September 2015 04:25 (four years ago) link

ghost hound. sorta like twin peaks x lain with an amazing dark ambient score.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 14 September 2015 04:38 (four years ago) link

i don't really like anime but i much enjoyed serial experiments: lain and texhnolyze

the late great, Monday, 14 September 2015 05:43 (four years ago) link

def rec all of yuasa's stuff, especially Ping Pong and my favorite, The Tatami Galaxy. funny (even if you don't really "get" anime humor) and manic and inspiring and brilliantly animated.

my other favorite ever is kids on the slope, a coming of age story from shinichiro watanabe ( cowboy bebop, samurai champloo ) about a love triangle between three jazz-obsessed teenagers in 1960s small town japan. the music sequences are incredible.

oiocha, Monday, 14 September 2015 07:29 (four years ago) link

would recommend Wandering Son (Hourou Musuko), a show about a boy who likes to dress as a girl and a girl who likes to dress as a boy. Surprisingly thoughtful exploration of transsexualism and gender identity, a million miles away from how these subjects are usually handled in anime. Also has a beautiful watercolour art style.

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 14 September 2015 10:16 (four years ago) link

paranoia agent

in 72 point bold red font

― Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Sunday, September 13, 2015 11:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah that one

― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Sunday, September 13, 2015 11:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Evan, Monday, 14 September 2015 10:48 (four years ago) link

oh yeah, kids on the slope! I've only seen a few episodes but the premise kills me

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 14 September 2015 13:55 (four years ago) link

kids on the slope is pretty good, otm about the music sequences

, Monday, 14 September 2015 14:15 (four years ago) link

my rec is Redline, one movie that i might say is more intense and thrilling from start to finish than mad max

, Monday, 14 September 2015 14:15 (four years ago) link

mad max fury road that is

, Monday, 14 September 2015 14:15 (four years ago) link

fyi there's also this thread Animation Snob Thread (no Disney, no Pixar, no mainstream anime, mention Family Guy and you get kicked out a window), puppet films are allowed whihc i've had bookmarked forever

, Monday, 14 September 2015 14:16 (four years ago) link

if strongo were still here he'd tell you to check out Mind game. he's not so I'm going to tell you to check out mind game.

, Monday, 14 September 2015 14:17 (four years ago) link

Redline is really good in places but I don't think it has the momentum or overall quality of Fury Road. I felt the character development was unnecessary.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 14 September 2015 14:21 (four years ago) link

just finished Berserk which was enjoyable but it might be too "anime"

diamonddave85​ (diamonddave85), Monday, 14 September 2015 14:24 (four years ago) link

As to the question of the thread, it depends on what one hates about anime. I'm generally not a fan but I can deal with the things I don't like if there's enough other good things going on. But I can't pretend I haven't seen a lot of ecchi trash (a true guilty pleasure).
A lot of the better anime still has a lot of the things some people dislike about anime, like the drawing styles. I've always preferred far more textured animation and unusual expressive techniques.

The thing that impressed me about the Satoshi Kon stuff is how well the scenes are composed. Most of the anime I had seen was very sloppy and badly edited.
Paranoia Agent is actually my least favourite of his works. It's probably supposed to be confounding but I don't think it really carried off on the intrigue they built early on, I found a lot of it a tad boring and the animation quality drops in a few places.

Like I recommend in Animation Snob Thread, Keita Kurosaka is the least typical Japanese animator I know of but his work isn't easy to find. Angel's Egg is a lovely science fiction mood piece without much (any?) dialogue, with designs by Yoshitaka Amano.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 14 September 2015 14:54 (four years ago) link

Berserk (90s tv version) does an impressive job of telling the early best part of the comic saga despite clear time/budget constraints and even improving some parts of the story. Great soundtrack too.
The later film series version doesn't allow the story time to develope and breathe properly. It feels too much like a summary.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 14 September 2015 15:01 (four years ago) link

Satoshi Kon is definitely one of the go-to anime directors for people who aren't anime fans. Perfect Blue, Millennium Actress and Tokyo Godfathers are all great movies in different ways. Paprika was a bit weak story-wise IMO, but is still worth a watch.

Paranoia Agent is pretty great too, although I think the series loses a lot of momentum once it abandons the initial set-up - those stand alone episodes in the middle are great, but the over-arching plot kinda gets lost.

I'll second the recommendations for Mushishi, Kino and Lain above, and add Haibane Renmei, which is intriguing and reflective in a similar way.

Planetes is a pretty solid sci-fi series with good characters and little in the way of anime cliches.

Duane Barry, Monday, 14 September 2015 16:35 (four years ago) link

Haibane is excellent but I gotta disagree about Planetes, i watched the series after reading the manga and was super disappointed with the adaption, they really anime-ed it up by adding in lots of comedy sidekicks and useless drama. Don't even get me started about that last episode :(

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 14 September 2015 17:28 (four years ago) link

haibane renmei is incidentally all on hulu plus

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 14 September 2015 17:48 (four years ago) link

I liked Haibane Renmei too. I'll also throw Psycho Pass out there for anyone into Philip K Dick sort of themes. It's on Netflix for easy access.

salsa shark, Monday, 14 September 2015 18:06 (four years ago) link

thx for the many recs y'all, I need as much distraction as possible at present

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Monday, 14 September 2015 22:45 (four years ago) link

Seconding Mind Game, and reposting from the Netflix thread to remind people that Studio 4C put up a batch of films a couple of weeks ago- Mind Game, Genius Party and Genius Party Beyond (which are both mixed, but each has a fairly lengthy short from respectively Masaaki Yuasa and Koji Morimoto that are among the best things either have ever done), and Princess Arete (which I haven't watched yet but is supposed to be a gentle, Ghibli-esque thing?).

I don't know how easy it is to get outside the kickstarter, but Yuasa's Kick-Heart is pretty fun. And the adaptation of Taiyo Matsumoto's Ping Pong is well worth your time- I love Michael Arias's Tekkonkinkreet movie, but Ping Pong is a much more faithful translation of Matsumoto's style to animation and it's gorgeous:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcSuAhbtIFg

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 01:12 (four years ago) link

Crap, sorry, didn't see Ping Pong was already recommended twice >_<

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 01:15 (four years ago) link

Less than four minutes long, but this Ken Ishii video by Morimoto is kind of a classic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6maVVFs0As

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 01:17 (four years ago) link

One last thing before I shut up about Morimoto:

NOISEMAN SOUND INSECT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPOlYfHdpwU

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 01:22 (four years ago) link

Dumb qn from someone v.far outside but a lot of suggestions seem to be, say, post-PKD-ish ... is there much in the way of, IDK, George Eliot/Jane Austen-y stuff?

etc, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 01:46 (four years ago) link

Josei anime would be the term, from a quick look at manga categories, I guess?

etc, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 01:53 (four years ago) link

This was Google's first result, anyone want to comment on any of these? http://www.themarysue.com/josei-anime/

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 02:02 (four years ago) link

wow, that ping pong series looks amazing! excited to see it's on hulu.

the late great, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 04:29 (four years ago) link

From that Josei list:
Michiko & Hatchin stars two female characters but it's much closer to Black Lagoon/Tarantino territory, lots of action set pieces and stylish baddies. It's really well made but is twice as long as it needs to be tbh, towards the end you will be dreading yet another car chase. Which is rarely said about Jane Austen.
Princess Jellyfish is really good, lots of interesting characters although some can be a bit too one dimensional, particularly the one mentioned in the article.
A series that is currently airing called Snow White With The Red Hair caught me by surprise and might be the purest Josei show I've ever enjoyed. As you can guess from the title it has a fairytale like quality, with a commoner girl and a dashing young prince falling in love. What sets it apart though is the title character, a strong willed girl who feels like she's walked out of a Ghibli movie, you can't help but cheer her on.

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 05:52 (four years ago) link

etc, you might want to look into honey & clover (about a group of students at an art school), nana (about the friendship between two women, one a fashion student and one a rock musician), nodame cantabile (about the romantic relationship between a pianist and an aspiring conductor), his and her circumstances (the show hideaki anno made after evangelion, about the romantic relationship between two high school students), and revolutionary girl utena (hard to summarize?)

1staethyr, Thursday, 17 September 2015 08:21 (four years ago) link

also, a lot of the shows mentioned itt originally aired as part of fuji tv's noitamina block, which is specifically dedicated to programming that appeals to ppl outside of the young male demographic. the noitamina lineup is a p good place to look for "mature" anime in a bunch of different genres

1staethyr, Thursday, 17 September 2015 08:28 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

reporting back

PING PONG

Watched all of this one - the animation is obv incredible but what surprised me about it is the persistent and convincing bittersweetness, which helped offset how predictable many/most of the plot/character beats really are. Into it.

KIDS ON THE SLOPE

Also watched all of this, liked it less. The musical sequences are incredible and kept me going. As w/ many shows like this (regardless of genre) the relatively subtly homoerotic friendship >>>>>> the neverending tedium of the actual "romances." (Tho I admit that I have a problem w/ series wherein 100% of the long-running conflicts could be solved with one frank conversation.)

tried UTENA but it's just too mid-90s for me. a couple eps into MUSHI-SHI - animation's gorgeous, stories seem a bit intert? will keep trying.

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 October 2015 19:23 (four years ago) link

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-AHo-_XEV6E

Maybe most of you guys know all this stuff but its just a little video about the difficulties of making anime.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 1 October 2015 19:45 (four years ago) link

good timing on that as it frequently refers to Manglobe (Champloo, Michiko) who finally filed for bankruptcy the other day

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 1 October 2015 22:00 (four years ago) link

Just finished watching Gosenzosama Banbanzai, a pretty bizarre and funny six-part OVA from the late 80s. It's one of Mamoru Oshii's more obscure efforts (like that odd "Twilight Q" short), about a girl who travels back in time to live with her ancestors. The whole thing is presented like a stage play, making it pretty unique.

I know Oshii made a big splash with Ghost in the Shell, but I actually think that was his last really good film (though I haven't seen his live action stuff, and discount Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade, which he wrote but didn't direct).

Duane Barry, Saturday, 3 October 2015 17:22 (four years ago) link

five months pass...

so uh toonami is producing two new season of flcl

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 March 2016 21:47 (four years ago) link

Nice!

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Friday, 25 March 2016 00:54 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

brave new world

Nhex, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 22:28 (three years ago) link

oops. didn't realize this was a 3 month revive

Nhex, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 22:29 (three years ago) link

I've just started the new anime version of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Diamond is Unbreakable, and it really defies description (although Merritt Kopas's phrase "Twink Peaks" is pretty apt, as long as you bear in mind that it also involves spectral combat and Gauguin-like color clashes): an escaped serial killer has just been fused into a living statue by a vengeful high school student after attempting to infiltrate the student's house as a malign spirit in rainwater, and this is two episodes in. Idk what kind of relation to anime the ideal viewer would have, but it's certainly distinctive.

one way street, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 00:33 (three years ago) link

Jojo is so batshit, i love it

clouds, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 15:31 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Neo-Tokyo was really good

, Monday, 1 August 2016 16:52 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

finishing up 'puella magi madoka magica' after reading that it rivals evangelion (it doesn't, but i still have a few eps left so maybe it will!)
it's on netflix with or without subs so check it out!

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Monday, 14 November 2016 22:32 (three years ago) link

it's only 12 episodes, I should just watch it probably

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 26 August 2019 15:41 (nine months ago) link

I went on a rampage this weekend and downloaded the following:

Blue Submarine No. 6
Chi's Sweet Home
Genius PartyGiant Robo
Memories
Neo Tokyo
Panda Kopanda
Riding Bean
Robot Carnival
Tatami Galaxy
Texhnolyze

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 26 August 2019 15:43 (nine months ago) link

Neo Tokyo has the amazing “Running Man” short which I haven’t seen surpassed in terms of pure visual satisfaction, and I wonder if the death of cel-based animation is to blame. From a cost perspective, we should be able to have CG counterparts that are much more beautiful and fluid (a lot of shots in Running Man are static and cyclicly twitchy which lend it a very effectively unsettling atmosphere, but at the same time is obviously a cost/time-saving move) but I’ve yet to see anything like that outside of the Pixar paradigm. For something as highly packed with digital signs and readouts as “Running Man”, it’s doubly ironic that no one seems to be able to make something as good or better using a digital workflow.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 17:36 (nine months ago) link

i don't hate anime? but i just don't have a lot of time for it

so i just watch anime named after records i like

so far i have seen "angel's egg" and "pale cocoon" and they are both great

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 17:40 (nine months ago) link

fuuuck i completely forgot about blue submarine no. 6, i remember loving it

angel's egg is a masterpiece

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 17:53 (nine months ago) link

"running man" was nice but it could use more james taylor

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 18:00 (nine months ago) link

xp most anime is still hand drawn though, not CG

ciderpress, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 18:06 (nine months ago) link

My understanding is that it’s all done on tablets now (and I’m assuming at least the tweening is handled by computers rather than jr. level interns)

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 00:01 (nine months ago) link

i'm pretty sure most studios still use a big pool of poorly paid contractors for the tweening

ciderpress, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 00:19 (nine months ago) link

everything's composited digitally now and you'll see CG being used for stuff like action shots of vehicles or mechas but by and large the characters are still traditionally animated afaik

ciderpress, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 00:22 (nine months ago) link

following up on the horror thing, an adaption of Junji Ito's Uzumaki aka Spiral is coming next year
directed by Hiroshi Nagahama (Mushishi), who I trust will get the creepiness down

short teaser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDEQyK5ZH-E

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 31 August 2019 08:03 (nine months ago) link

A bunch of anime nerds just discovered Colin Stetson.

adam the (abanana), Saturday, 31 August 2019 11:57 (nine months ago) link

don't think anime nerds are the ito fans really, hence this being a cartoon network thing

ciderpress, Saturday, 31 August 2019 13:23 (nine months ago) link

three weeks pass...

I'm 10 episodes into Paranoia Agent and I'm kind of wondering now if we'll ever return from this orthogonal detour.

Doctor Hu (Leee), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 00:15 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Just finished Watanabe's new Netflix series, Carol and Tuesday. It was enjoyable, but I lost a good deal of interest when it settled into being about a Martian talent show. The closing credits are fantastic though!

Duane Barry, Monday, 14 October 2019 00:45 (seven months ago) link

Pretty much my sentiments. The music has been pretty good too, and I was kind of ranking the songs in my head -- "The Loneliest Girl" is tops, but the songs from the fake FKA Twigs are up there for me. (Angela is overrated.)

Pow-pow!

HELLA FITZGERALD (Leee), Monday, 14 October 2019 17:50 (seven months ago) link

five months pass...

I always knew that fan communities could be intense and there's obviously nasty bullying but I didn't realize that fan art that was deemed problematic could lead to immense harassment from large parts of the community and two Jojo fan artists have ended up in hospital over it.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 5 April 2020 19:42 (one month ago) link

People have been bullied out of jobs and more than one person has been bullied to suicide. A Japanese fanartist had someone put needles in cookies they’d baked for her.

extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Sunday, 5 April 2020 19:53 (one month ago) link

That's horrible. I also heard about it happening among Steven Universe fans on tumblr.

Was that latter artist bullied by people inside and/or outside japan? I remember Falcoon (fan artist who turned pro, worked for SNK) got bullied about his weight but that was maybe too early for culture war stuff (and I don't know how much japan goes for that).

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 5 April 2020 20:19 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

my partner and i have been burning through anime like it's our job during quarantine. here's my anime logg with ratings:

completed
* Arslan Senki - 6
* Death Note - 8
* Elfen Lied - 6
* Kill la Kill - 10
* Little Witch Academia - 8
* Ghost in the Shell: SAC - 8
* Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam - 9
* Steins;Gate - 9
* Gurren Lagann - 9

watching
* Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ - i like the goofiness but they made the argama crew seem completely inept. also where tf is quattro??
* Legend of the Galactic Heroes - watched the first 30 episodes a few years back and it was a solid 10
* Ghost in the Shell: SAC2 - more cyberpunk awesomeness, minus the creepy hotel scene

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Monday, 1 June 2020 17:06 (three days ago) link

looking for some good 80s/90s deep cuts, any recommendations?

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Monday, 1 June 2020 17:07 (three days ago) link

you can also probably tell that i'm a Trigger fanboy -- i've never seen more joyful, maximalist animation. their stuff is like a love letter to everything anime good, band, and in-between

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Monday, 1 June 2020 17:11 (three days ago) link

revolutionary girl utena

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 1 June 2020 17:13 (three days ago) link

I recently watched NANA and loved it and tbh I have no idea if it's super well known or a deep cut and it's also from the 2000s but basically my point is if you haven't watched NANA you gotta

Hackers (1995) (Will M.), Monday, 1 June 2020 17:52 (three days ago) link

i watched the first saga of utena a few years back and really liked it! no better time to go back and finish

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Monday, 1 June 2020 19:10 (three days ago) link

I remember a fair amount of people loved Nana, or the comic at least.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 1 June 2020 20:44 (three days ago) link

there's gunbuster and diebuster if you haven't seen those, kind of the origin point of the gainax/trigger style along with flcl

ciderpress, Monday, 1 June 2020 21:27 (three days ago) link

Is Nana streaming anywhere right now in the US? Looks like it's not on Prime or Netflix anymore :/

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Monday, 1 June 2020 21:37 (three days ago) link

i don't see it anywhere

a lot of 00s and even some early 10s stuff is in limbo these days

ciderpress, Monday, 1 June 2020 21:45 (three days ago) link

Utena is critical viewing, Gunbuster is also great. If you’re a total nerd and curious about anime history, I really loved Otaku no Video, a 2-ep OVA abt the creation of Gainax.

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 1 June 2020 23:47 (three days ago) link

Here’s some 80s/90s stuff I liked:

Bubblegum Crisis
Riding Bean
Battle Angel
Armitage III
Serial Experiments Lain
The Big O
Excel Saga

Ppl seem to like Blue Submarine No. 6 but I thought it was boring.

If you want ultra graphic pulpy garbage, Mad Bull 34 and Genocyber are ridic to the point of being kinda entertaining, but I would feel guilty actually *recommending* them

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 1 June 2020 23:56 (three days ago) link

oh yeah definitely need to watch gunbuster and flcl

as for streaming, there's a great android app called "AnYme" you can use depending on the copyright laws in your country

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Monday, 1 June 2020 23:57 (three days ago) link

It's probably super dated, but I loved the Vision of Escaflowne TV series back then.
Lain is great. After that, check out Paranoia Agent.

Nhex, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 00:01 (two days ago) link

escaflowne is still good other than the ugly character designs

turn a gundam is my favorite mecha anime from that era

ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 00:21 (two days ago) link

i haven't really seen much from the 90s though other than the big names, need to do a deeper dive

ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 00:30 (two days ago) link

would love to read a book about the 80s bubble economy OVA scene, where any huckster or madman seemingly could get an anime made.
e.g. watched Dragon's Heaven OVA from 1988 the other day.
it's not that great, the main pull being that it's a complete ripoff of Moebius artwork brought to life.
it's also 42 minutes long but only 24 minutes is animation. there's a 5 minute live action intro featuring closeups of a model of the main mecha/robot, and then an outro of about 12 minutes of the model being lovingly constructed and filmed. so indulgent!

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 01:44 (two days ago) link

Excel Saga

oh i'm glad this show holds up? i haven't seen it since high school but i was a huge fan

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 01:53 (two days ago) link

here are 80's and 90's OVAs i would add to the list ... most of them are on youtube

dallos
megazone 23
goku midnight eye
record of lodoss war
paradise dolls
cyber city odeo 808
spirit warrior
black lion
wizardry
captain herlock: the endless odyssey

Bstep, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 02:20 (two days ago) link

definitely check out retrocrush.tv, they have a ton of stuff on there from the '80s/'90s
That said we're probably getting away from the topic of this thread - everything we're talking about here is generally beloved anime

Nhex, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 04:34 (two days ago) link

I'm currently watching through Monster, all of which is up on Youtube (in my part of the world at least); it's a slow burn but I'm enjoying it. More or less a straight-up crime thriller, there'a a few cliches but it's written well.

I'm a bit surprised that it seems to be the only Naoki Urusawa series that's been adapted into anime.

Duane Barry, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 11:31 (two days ago) link

oh yeah megazone 23 and cyber city oedo 808 are rad

excel saga is SO funny and wacky and i was #blessed enough to wind up with a subtitle track that has pop-up-video style explanations of all of the obscure references, which has added to my appreciateion of it

if you are down w torrenting, nyaa dot si is an incredibly comprehensive resource, sometimes TOO comprehensive (like way too many rips of the same thing), they also skew towards placebo-level encoding (like FLAC audio and some insanely high video bitrate) which can be annoying

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 12:56 (two days ago) link

the most annoying anime release group thing i've come across is where they use an obscure feature in MKV that isn't really widely supported to chop off the intros and outros into their own files to save space

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 14:28 (two days ago) link

I'm largely anime ignorant, but are Ghost In the Shell and Akira still considered the gold standard of classic anime? I need a new thing to obsess over to distract myself from the end of civilization and am looking for entertaining diversions to stave off total despair

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 14:41 (two days ago) link

from a western perspective they definitely are still considered god tier

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 15:01 (two days ago) link

mamoru oshii's best work is unparalleled in anime not to mention cinema

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 15:10 (two days ago) link

ghost in the shell is among that best work

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 15:10 (two days ago) link

Haven't seen the anime for Monster but the manga is one of my favorites. Love Urasawa.
GITS probably holds up? Akira is amazing landmark animation but as a film it's always been kinda rough - bear in mind the manga was still going when they made the movie so it ends strangely.

Nhex, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 15:37 (two days ago) link

I would say Ghost in the Shell and Akira are god-tier but they are not the entire god tier, I would also throw in like Spirited Away and probably a Satoshi Kon (Perfect Blue? Millennium Actress?)

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 16:08 (two days ago) link

millennium actress is the best satoshi kon by a mile imo

ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 16:11 (two days ago) link

check out Metropolis as well if u haven't seen it -- based on a manga from 1949 by Osamu Tezuka, it's directed by Rintaro and written by the director of Akira.

Bstep, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 22:00 (two days ago) link


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