In the unlikely event that Trump wins, how will you react?

6 chickenshits still owe us a Rubio beatdown

I'm buying a gun. Not even kidding.
― its subtle brume (DJP)

I'm pretty sure DJP followed through on that, too. Understandably.

I wonder who the 7 people were who said they were going to leave the country, and I wonder if any of them did

I'm 98% sure I was one. I did in fact move back to Canada. Tbf, it was 1.5 years after he took office and not entirely for directly Trump-related reasons (but I don't think I said it would be).

i will neither call the manchurian candidate names nor demand his tax returns be made public
i will neither call the manchurian candidate names nor demand his tax returns be made public
i will neither call the manchurian candidate names nor demand his tax returns be made public
i will neither call the manchurian candidate names nor demand his tax returns be made public
i will neither call the manchurian candidate names nor demand his tax returns be made public

i moved to [name place]. oregon, actually. would've left the country, but couldn't think of any other countries that would take me.

He’s going to win again

shut up, nuh unh

I have a bad feeling about it. Feels like 2004 again.

it's two years away

Yeah, seeing anyone make confident predictions about 2020 this far out is baffling to me - especially with the sheer number of things likely to happen in the interim. I wouldnt even feel confident about predicting the midterms never mind 2020!

I know. I'm not confident about anything. Still steeling myself against it. 2004 sucked.

How are we only halfway (or maybe even only a quarter of the way) through this shit? How?

world ended in 2012, we are in hell iirc

I have a bad feeling about it. Feels like 2004 again.

― flappy bird, 22. oktober 2018 06:27 (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's two years away

― Clay, 22. oktober 2018 06:35 (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So if it feels like 2004 now, that would mean 2020 will be like 2006 :)

good mourning!!

He’s going to win again

― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Sunday, October 21, 2018 5:51 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if posting shit like this makes y’all feel better then go hog wild i guess

To post, "American presidents tend to win re-election" isn't the same as "He's going to win again," so Brad otm.

but if it does not make you feel better i’m wondering what purpose it serves other than to make other ppl feel panic, the nyt needle as a personality

If you don't already feel panicked during most of the time you spend conscious, I envy you.

i'll have you know i'm heavily medicated sir

not gonna go around predicting anything but imo it's best to prepare yourself for the worst, pessimism of the intellect / optimism of the will and all that

xpost I said I envy you, sheesh.

saying "he's totally winning again" before the fuckin' midterms have even concluded and before candidates have even been identified is pointless defeatism and alarmism.

like idk if ya know but the idea that Trump could win re-election is a thing *everybody already knows*.

mentally obsessing over it 2 years in advance doesn't "prepare you for the worst", it causes you significant mental distress so that if it does wind up happening, you're too mentally fried to fight.

theres no less merit in it than the prayer-beading feverishness in how hes about to crumble at the next revelation from the wp

cos those are the only two options

also p sure this message board is much more jaded than the rest of the country.

look at the average post along those lines in the politics thread and see how well it is received.

nah its more that theres not rly a valid place to criticise any of the fantasies other than an "i dont like it" grounds which is childish

xpost plus, it's important to remember that while the many scandals obviously didn't sink him, they did often make it more difficult for his administration to accomplish things and have probably helped the Democratic House midterm and gubernatorial races shift blue.

not to diminish the horrible things his administration has done, but his unforced errors have stemmed the tide at times...

i can see why Alfred gets so frustrated with the thread(s) now

jeez I wasn't recommending obsessing over anything

nah its more that theres not rly a valid place to criticise any of the fantasies other than an "i dont like it" grounds which is childish

― lie back and think of englund (darraghmac), Monday, October 22, 2018 6:08 AM (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fuckin alarmism gives me panic attacks, eat shit deems

ppl being like “oh this is the thing that will finally get trump” is merely eyeroll worthy, it does not cause me unmeasured anxiety, maybe treating the two as a binary and anything outside of it as “childish” is maybe dumb

i know you’d love to tone police every conversation on ilx but maybe fuck off here

Brad otm

hmm

not what i said at all but lookit

Not the second part. The part abt the doomsday theories about trump’s invincibility being ilx’s worst reflex.

Cynicism, which is really curdled sentimentality, is easy because you can always avoid responsibility ("See? I told you Trump was going to win reelection!").

its more that the repetition of any of it as mantra or the move to judge any not chanting is an evasion of sorts i think

We're all just butterflies madly flapping in the hope of generating a storm which favors us.

(I initially mistyped that as 'madly fapping' which is maybe just as accurate, really.)

hillz should've been all "yo no tax returns, no debates. dude's corrupt. look at his fucking hair and his casino fines. fuck him and fuck your deplorable asses for benghazi-ing me no end. medicare for all" dropped the mic and gone quiet. all the money CNN/FOX/NBC/ABC/CBS stood to lose on cancelled debates would've put some pressure on 2scoops to put up or shut up

or maybe she should've just told ppl what she would do for them

she was very gracious in letting us know we could check out her website

It is true that it is too early to surrender, but it is never too early to be battle ready and address the scale of the emergency.

eg systematic theft by purging voters

Friend that I normally agree w/ on FB posts this...unprovoked

Hillary Clinton running again? She better fucking not.
And if I hear a single solitary person declare non voters in this potential scenario as "privileged", I'm just gonna go ahead and say these three things.
1) I fucking told you so
2) The definition of insanity is...
3) The absolute ultimate in privilege is a party that refused to acknowledge what happened the first time, to the detriment of the very marginalized groups being referred to.

There comes a point where one has to recognize they were complicit in partaking in this privilege, by not paying any attention and allowing shame to be the modus operandi, when it clearly doesn't work to motivate the ones you need to motivate. You can not like that all goddamn day long. It should be obvious what the worst scenario is. BUT CLEARLY PEOPLE DON'T. Reality sucks.

Honestly, I'm so gonna be hated for this one, maybe the non voters aren't wrong. Because I'm tired of being pushed around via worst case scenarios and weaponized shame too.

And I swear to zombie jesus, if you call me a centrist, I'm gonna tell you to grow the fuck up. I'm a realist. A centrist believes there is merit to two sides, regardless of whether there is, always. I do not. I believe there is right and there is wrong. I also believe not acknowledging other people's perceptions or not challenging them realistically is convenient as fuck, and removes any and all responsibility for making real change. And no, I don't mean die hard fans ffs. Fence dwellers make the difference.

Much of it otm, much o_O, but was there an announcement I missed in the news?

She recently said something to the effect that she hasn't ruled out running, or something like that. Or at least there was a recent headline to that effect.

FWIW I think shaming non-voters is dumb and counter-productive so I do agree with that angle.

(yes I vote in our elections, generally)