HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

I for one can't wait for a new round of Kingdom Hearts where we've got Cloud Strife and Arya Stark and Black Widow and Captain Picard and LEGO Batman all going toe-to-toe against Saruman, Darth Maul and John Wick

Would have liked to see Night King 1000 year empire destroyed by walker Sam’s referendum proposing representative walker democracy which it turns out does enfranchise dogs and goats etc...

can bran see the future, or just the past

I think I read that he can see the past but only some of the future? Doesn't really matter if he doesn't tell anyone anything.

"I can see the future!"

"OK, who wins the World Series?"

"I know, but I cannot tell."

GoT is different than Lost in that there were many fan theories

To me the critical difference is that somewhere in season 2 of Lost it became apparent that they were just pulling more and more random mysteries out of their ass and it would never resolve satisfactorily, so I quit watching. Thrones gave the opposite impression.

It's just that with some of these proposed "better" endings I'm seeing, they are so bad that I can't tell if people are being serious

The mysteries/machinations in GoT were compelling, imo. If Lost suffered from an inability to reach resolution, GoT suffered from an apparent disinterest in it.

Tbf to Lost, it had a few 22-episode seasons to fill and no books to fall back on, not to mention cast members bailing left and right. GOT had (almost) every imaginable advantage

To me the critical difference is that somewhere in season 2 of Lost it became apparent that they were just pulling more and more random mysteries out of their ass and it would never resolve satisfactorily, so I quit watching. Thrones gave the opposite impression.

i just realized that daenerys never actually sat on the throne. she just touched the arm of it before receiving the kiss of death

1) There were multiple fan theories that would have been superior to the story that we saw.

2) Even if you wanted to tell the story we saw, the creators’ decision to waste massive amounts of time on inconsequential shit for three plus seasons, then rush to truncate the story in a haphazard fashion, is indefensible.

Just so it’s clear above, I am not advocating for a longer show (dear god, no), just cutting out massive wastes of time, like Tyrion and Jorah jerking off in the gladiator pits, endless quagmire of Mereen, etc.

Now that I think about it, eliminating Dany from the show would be a vast improvement, lol.

I've often thought Dany could have disappeared from s1 until Tyrion goes to find her and you'd lose nothing

*the end of s1

I've often thought Dany could have disappeared from s1 until Tyrion goes to find her and you'd lose nothing

Enh, you could elucidate all that with Grey Worm, Missandei and some well-written dialogue.

Definitely preferable to the repetitive slog we got.

Eliminate all the characters except Ned and have the last 7 seasons be a shot of his severed head as it decays

Now we're getting somewhere.

a lot of budding screenwriters out there!

i do think there's an inherent danger in letting showrunners co-direct the final episode. it's hard enough to tell D&D that something is dumb, probably even harder when they're the co-directors. the whole auteur thing seems to work best when the auteur is really good

Well yeah, but for better or worse, the writers tried to tell a story of how the thirst for power can lead even the most well-meaning people to commit atrocious acts. And clearly the idea was to make Dany into a viewpoint character, someone whose journey and hardships and victories the viewers could identify, so that her eventual decline into despotism would hit them hard and emphasise their chosen theme. It's arguable whether they succeeded in doing what they set to do, but it certainly wouldn't have worked at all if Dany wasn't one of the main characters.

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I've often thought Dany could have disappeared from s1 until Tyrion goes to find her and you'd lose nothing
I too also think this show should have had fewer female lead characters with any agency.

hahahah!

enh, repeating the same savior arc for four seasons is a boring use of agency

can bran see the future, or just the past

Actor Isaac Hempstead-Wright, who plays Bran in the show, admitted that the scope of his character's premonitions are limited. "As I understand it, Bran can’t exactly see the future. I think he can have inklings," he told the New York Times in an interview about Season 8. For example, when he gave Arya the Valyrian steel catspaw dagger last season, he knew she'd use it for something important, but not that she'd specifically kill the Night King with it, the actor explained.

Yeah it's like when Young Ned could almost hear Bran. Maybe future Bran yells at past Bran knowing he'll get just enough of the gist.

In conclusion my spinoff idea is called The Lawnmower Bran

I too also think this show should have had fewer female lead characters with any agency.

Not buying this. Cersei, Arya, Sansa, and Brienne were the best characters. You want to turn any number of male characters into female roles, I’m fine with that. Eliminating the white savior character with a single facial expression is no loss.

Why no love for Diana Rigg?

best main characters

rigg was top 3 multi-season tertiaries tho

Zizek weighs in, because why not

The finale combines the rejection of a radical change with an old anti-feminist motif at work in Wagner. For Wagner, there is nothing more disgusting than a woman who intervenes in political life, driven by the desire for power. In contrast to male ambition, a woman wants power in order to promote her own narrow family interests or, even worse, her personal caprice, incapable as she is of perceiving the universal dimension of state politics.

The same femininity which, within the close circle of family life, is the power of protective love, turns into obscene frenzy when displayed at the level of public and state affairs. Recall the lowest point in the dialogue of Game of Thrones when Daenerys tells Jon that if he cannot love her as a queen then fear should reign – the embarrassing, vulgar motif of a sexually unsatisfied woman who explodes into destructive fury.

But – let’s bite our sour apple now – what about Daenerys’ murderous outbursts? Can the ruthless killing of the thousands of ordinary people in King’s Landing really be justified as a necessary step to universal freedom? At this point, we should remember that the scenario was written by two men.

Daenerys as the Mad Queen is strictly a male fantasy, so the critics were right when they pointed out that her descent into madness was psychologically not justified. The view of Daenerys with mad-furious expression flying on a dragon and burning houses and people expresses patriarchal ideology with its fear of a strong political woman.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/game-thrones-season-8-finale-bran-daenerys-cersei-jon-snow-zizek-revolution-a8923371.html

Like to give a shout out to Oleanna Tyrel aka the Queen of Thorns for being the most hilarious shit talker in the 7 kingdoms

i don't know zizek, have you considered the pic forks posted above

http://i.imgur.com/z7iHD54.png

haha

yeah, I imagine there are/will be more academic papers on GoT than there were on Buffy.

She didn't sit on the throne because it was a replica made of wax.

Surely someone has truthered the physics of whether dragon fire can melt iron.

I am still annoyed about Khal being able to melt gold jewelry using an ordinary campfire.

yeah, I imagine there are/will be more academic papers on GoT than there were on Buffy.

― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, May 21, 2019

never been more glad I got out of the game when i did

xpost Maybe it was a magical campfire, have you considered that?

Uhm I adore Zizek but to say her outbursts were not justified? I don't agree. (She was prone to outbursts. It was Tyrion who held her in check imo.)

10% lolz ratio minimum in the replies

just here for the memes

— Maisie Williams (@Maisie_Williams) May 20, 2019

Ha, maybe this is why Drogon torched the throne.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7BsCbwU8AAo9nd.jpg

never been more glad I got out of the game when i did

The only winning move etc.

Uhm I adore Zizek but to say her outbursts were not justified? I don't agree. (She was prone to outbursts. It was Tyrion who held her in check imo.)

i like when cersei says "ser gregor stay by my side" but it sounds like she calls him "ser wiggles" which is totally what i wd call him

did Ser Pounce survive the Daenerys genocide?

Ser Wiggles sounds like someone from Parliament’s “Gamin’ On Ya Thrones” LP

Pretty good call:

🤷🏼‍♀️ https://t.co/Sbmeedgkhp

— Gwendoline Christie (@lovegwendoline) May 22, 2019

Say what you will about the #GameOfThronesFinale, the John Hughes homage was a bold choice to end on. pic.twitter.com/kKJrJyV9d7

— Dan Olson (@FoldableHuman) May 20, 2019

As long as Drogon got to burninate the thatched-roof cottages, I'm happy.

Žižek is the worst. Always.