Choose a US-supported fascist, drug lord and/or terrorist

the shah of iran was not a fascist

also LOL at lumping in israel with the khmer rouge and honduran death squads

Khmer Rouge may've been enabled by US foreign policy but weren't supported by the US?

anyway i voted the shah because in the end he was actually great for iran

Also I pity the fool who does the Marxists equals fascists thing

I'm hardly one to defend Israeli military policy but their inclusion here is very o_0

the shah too - who was neither a fascist, a drug lord or a terrorist

27. Terrorists, Pakistan; 28. Terrorists, Saudi Arabia; 29. Terrorists, Turkey.

ladies + gentlemen, the geniuses of salon.com

wasn't enough room on the list for "Terrorists, America"

Might as well put France on the list, by their criteria.

anyway i voted the shah because in the end he was actually great for iran

Yeah, SAVAK, great bunch of guys.

can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs

i'm sure the secret police would've been much kinder under mossadegh

but wtf would i know

also thank god the IRI came along to clean up house because lord knows there were never any torture or death squads under the people's choice khomeini

machiavelli was a friend to many

When did Salon start reposting from AlterNet?

at least a few years

anyway you should learn something about the history of iran before you comment on savak, tom d

I thought the US-backed coup in iran was seen as bad primarily because it was a subversion of popular will that enraged the middle east against us, not because the Shah committed lots of atrocities or anything. Not that his govt was great, I just don't think it was particularly terrorizing.

anyway you should learn something about the history of iran before you comment on savak, tom d

Really? You think that will make me look more kindly on them?

actually, savak did commit lots of atrocities against the enemies of the regime! torture, extrajudicial killing, etc. but that sort of thing had been the rule and not the exception in iran, both by gov't and non gov't players for, i dunno, all of recorded history?

sorry if i seem angry, it's just that the comment was extremely stupid

What comment was extremely stupid?

xpost hey for all i know you're an expert on iranian history, but honestly i can't figure any other explanation for your extremely stupid comment

What extremely stupid comment?

you know what, i think i have anger management problems. and you know what particularly ticks me off, is people holding forth snarky opinions on shit they know nothing about. and this board IS FULL OF THAT SHIT. so i quit. peace out!

I don't know what but OK, see you later.

i'm sure the secret police would've been much kinder under mossadegh

― the late great, Tuesday, April 5, 2016 8:20 PM (12 minutes ago)

i can't tell whether you're being sarcastic or not but i've read a fair bit about mossadegh and am unfamiliar w/ any notable abuses of civil liberties that he was responsible for, certainly not on the level of the shah, but i assume you know much more than i do about general iranian history so am curious to hear more

Let's drop it.

go fuck yourself

Pardon me?

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who'd have thought a simple conversation about fascists and drug lords could get so negative

:(

Not saying the Shah didn't commit any atrocities, I'm just saying that the reason we usually see the US criticized for its role in the coup has more to do with our overall attitude toward middle east policy and self-determination than it does with that, which makes the Shah an odd fit on this list.

lol JD

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The Philippines tho?

Kind of odd they'd leave MARCOS off the list and instead point to the JSOC as a "death squad".

Voted Pat Sajak.

I don't know where I am atm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/12/15/the-not-so-secret-history-of-jsoc/

Yeah ok so maybe they do have a point about the JSOC, but still...Marcos.

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great thread

Agreed, just the right amount of clusterfuck, tucked into a tight running time. Excellent cameo by Neanderthal towards the end.

Whitey Bulger should have been included

Donald Trump too.

no dev

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haha