Come anticipate (I guess?) Christopher Nolan's Batman/One Direction prequel DUNKIRK oh wait I have that wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM9BWtppzko

i guess i'll watch anything he makes. nb haven't seen interstellar yet. was it stellar?

It was very inter.

Humanity almost dies but is saved by...LOVE.

ok apparently free on amazon prime i will watch it now

IT WAS LOVE ALL ALONG!

xxp Which to be fair is the plot of The Fifth Element. Except Nolan is in love with machines and black holes.

oh my god it's like 3 hours long

About half of which is McConaghey looking concerned.

welp, looks like everything that was once interesting about Nolan has finally been drained and leached away

interstellar was alright. it was by no means great but it was ok.

I wanted to like it but tbh I've been avoiding it following reviews and the 3+ hours long and my general distaste for his last few movies

I mean DKR and Inception were SO BAD I kinda doubt he rebounded with 3hrs of McConaugheyhey (who can be enjoyable)

i think w/TDK he never let his ideas overwhelm his instincts as a director, which was the issue w/TDKR. I'm more positive about inception than most other folks at least on here, but i only saw it the one time. i was pretty impressed w/it as a juggling act of sorts and enjoyed the spectacle. i could see it falling flat on a second viewing on the small screen, of course...

anyway i like WW2 movies but i'll wait and see (which i'm doing w/interstellar still.)

i liked inception fine.

it finished #3 in the action movies poll a few years ago, which i thought was crazy but whatever i just count the ballots.

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just finished interstellar. weird movie. kinda feel like he made the entire thing for that one sequence where they lose all that time and watch the videos from home. pretty uneven -- like i guess all his work. the ending feels like jury-rigged.

Well this certainly looks very Nolan.

Needs more WHOOOMP noises in the soundtrack.

Oh I don't think those will be absent in the final cut.

i was pretty impressed w/it as a juggling act of sorts and enjoyed the spectacle.

Yeah it's fun if you see it as just a big heist movie with an unusual hook.

Anyway, I think he could probably do a good war movie if he kept his more pretentious impulses in check. He does bombast very well.

interstellar was alright. it was by no means great but it was ok.

― akm, Thursday, August 4, 2016 6:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is my review of the entire Nolan filmography. They do look nice, at least. Just imagine if the dude hired a screenwriter outside of the family.

I'm actually curious if Memento/The Following hold up at all now because everything post those have been pretty irritating (although I did like a significant enough amount of Interstellar--score, robots, planets themselves, effects in general--to rate it despite it's insane length and the mind-numbing stupidity of the characters).

Memento holds up really well, especially if you've (um) forgotten some of the surprises. I watched it with someone last year who had never seen it or even heard of it, and she had a blast.

I liked Intersteller a lot, for a lot of reasons. Much better than Inception, which I did not like, for a lot of reasons.

I never even understood the hype for Memento at the time. The only one of these things that I really liked a lot while watching it was TDK but pretty much none of the movie stuck with me afterwards and it was the first movie I ever saw in IMAX so I think I was just dazzled by the spectacle of it all.

Debord was right, dammit.

Anyway, I think this "Dunkirk" thing is misdirection, and it's either a sequel to "Blair Witch" or a spin-off of "Cloverfield."

The Prestige is still slept on as one of the better Nolan movies. IMO, anyway.

I can't keep track of the magician movies. That's the one with Wolverine, Bale and Tesla, right?

Prestige is pretty good. Memento I don't know I'd want to revisit at this point. I like the first two dark knight movies a lot.

Prestige is great.

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realized how easy it is to exploit
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using an
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i think my point is actually that "christopher nolan" is now an IP in itself (in a way that nerd directors couldn't have been before modern IP-based movie marketing was hammered into hollywood)

and that the reddit/avcvlub/sdcc class of nerds is no longer able to develop an interest in any film that doesn't follow the marketing cycle

Pretige, Memento, Following, Batman Begins and TDK are all good to varying degrees. Prestige is prob my favorite tbh.

Best part of the Batman movies are probably Coogan/Brydon impressions of Caine and Hardy from the the third one, but I guess I'm not really audience for them...

Prestige is the best. Interstellar second best. I don't want him to do a straight war movie, though. That sounds dark and dreary and boring.

Prestige is the best. Interstellar second best. I don't want him to do a straight war movie, though. That sounds dark and dreary and boring.
--Frederik B

Maybe it'll be a musical comedy.

it would be interesting to see him try his hand at directing some kind of comedy actually

godawful robot banter in interstellar tells you everything you need to know about what the nolans think "humour" is

or should I say "their humour circuits are set to eleven percent"

"that's gold, johnny! now can you put in the exact same joke fifty more times?"

Anyway, I think this "Dunkirk" thing is misdirection, and it's either a sequel to "Blair Witch" or a spin-off of "Cloverfield."

The monster attack is right there in the trailer.

bet he's pissed he missed out on atonement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-eMt3SrfFU

this looks boring af

it'd be pretty funny if this had a sci-fi twist in the last half an hour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7O7BtBnsG4

gentlemen to the beach, for we leave at daybreak

There was a pretty decent docudrama style 3 part Dunkirk mini-series by the BBC from 2004 that I guarantee will be better than this shite.

It has one thing going for it -- Branagh NOT wearing his Poirot facial hair.

In a way it fits with the optimism Nolan has when he is at his best, but on the other hand it seems dull and straightforward, and Nolan is really not visually interesting enough to pull this off easily. Cautiously optimistic...

Yeah, clearly no better argument against triumphant nationalism than shitting on someone for not being British. For fucks sake.

The movie does not become shitty because tories like it. They're idiots. Reagan liked Born in the USA.

Guys. Show go on!

There were hardly any colonial troops on the beaches at Dunkirk, at least up until the events depicted in the movie. The BEF was almost entirely English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish, though there were four companies of unarmed Indian Muslim mule handlers, three evacuated (a few hundred men). The French initially opposed the evacuation and mostly evacuated after the BEF, after the events of the film. As far as I can tell, only one major French unit at Dunkirk was colonial, the 8th Zouaves regiment, of Algerians of European descent.

I have seen you posting very authoritative sounding bollocks before San, what are your sources here?

lol

I know for a fact there were numbers of Indian and African troops present, cos some book I read.

― calzino, 22. august 2017 00:53 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

imo if you hated nolan before youre prob going to hate him more

the clamor is necessary for tension, for immediacy... but i expect clamor in a movie like that. you can't have torpedos and air strikes without the aural terror
that goes with it.

imo the simplicity of the storytelling was a way to explore the whole via a very narrow view - the narrow view obv leaves out a lot, and i realize that nolan's choices of who then tells the story, and who he wants us to see is telling. but in and of itself it's a good story. idk.

it's imo sort of pointless to make Nolan the punching bag bcz he didnt make the movie you personally wanted to see. We all knew he was never going to make that movie. He's Whitey Whitington from White-On-Whiting! This is a movie from the Keegan-type historian hit parade, designed to make men who smoke pipes in tweed jackets misty-eyed. Yes there's been a thousand of those movies. Maybe we don't need more? But this IS a really good movie within that very expected and very done-over genre.

imo

and the planes were fucking cool as fuck

I feel where you're coming from with that, kinda, but he even whiffed making a "simple" film with all that timeline fuckery. I have no idea what on earth he was thinking with that.

it was kinda cool imo! i liked seeong the timelines intersect esp towards the end it made the tension more palpable for me imo

Calzino, you can read about the four companies of Royal Indian Army Service Corps here. I went through the order of battle for the French units involved in the defense of the perimeter on French wikipedia. Were there possibly some other colonials present amongst the French Army? Yes, but in units smaller than that ~3000 strong Zouaves regiment, perhaps serving logistics roles like the RIASC companies.

Update, elements of the 1st Moroccan Division were among the French troops evacuated June 2-5, before being landed at Brest to continue the fight. The 2e division d'infanterie nord-africaine also fought on the perimeter before being captured with others at [Poche de Lille](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poche_de_Lille), 60 km to the south.

I feel where you're coming from with that, kinda, but he even whiffed making a "simple" film with all that timeline fuckery. I have no idea what on earth he was thinking with that.

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), 22. august 2017 03:43 (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's stupid. A film can be simple in scope while complex in form. And the wonderful timeline fuckery does allow him to narrow it down, to have three plotstrands converge on just one moment.

"i noticed you did a thing"
"yes, i did"
"i guess that's good then"

that really works for every nolan film doesn't it. close thread please

maybe

"i noticed you did a thing"
"what a smart boy you are! let me ruffle your hair"
"this... this is a modern classic..."

I didn't mean to sound rude San. But once I quoted something from a painstakingly researched economic history of Nazi era Germany by Tooze, and it questioned some of the received wisdom that you get on wikipedia, on that era. And you tried to rubbish it by quoting blocks of wikipedia, I'm just saying your sources on history are not up there with your science posts.

Wargamers/armchair generals are really meticulous with orders of battle and the like, and seem to be the ones responsible for the French Wiki, which covers the battles of 1940 in far greater detail than English wiki does. One can drill down the French OoB here for regimental subcommands and battle histories, to a much greater extent than I've seen with US and UK OoBs on English Wiki (where the Soviet OoB is a horrible mess).

Dunkirk is amazingly a Nolan movie, on so many plans and with so many details that I do not have to flush the surprises.

dying

fred can you write all your posts in danish filtered thru google translate? thx

Wait, what do you think I've been doing until now?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimrod#Idiom

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b0/Green_Day_-_Nimrod_cover.jpg

not that i couldn't suspend disbelief but virtually every actor cast in this was gorgeous, looked like a Ralph Lauren advert or something; seas of perfectly coiffed, thick black hair and razor-sharp jawlines

i couldn't tell one floppy haired muscle faced twerp from another.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2419/2062471345_d821c3e87b.jpg

Maybe there was a golden age for British handsomeness.

yeah god not even a blonde or a ginger in sight on the beach there, army of brown haired abercrombie models

god that french kid aka Gibson was gorgeous

good god, this thread is full of vitriol. this movie is fucking beautiful... kinda felt like The Master, Bridge of Spies, and The Thin Red Line (w/o the monologues). Not a huge fan of Nolan - loved The Prestige, and this was just gorgeous. Why all the hate? it wasn't accurate enough?

For a start the jingoism is unbearable, and some of Mail/Express cheerleaders for this garbage made it easier to hate. The sense of scale is all wrong as well, it should be subtitled 100 people on a beach.

I mean there are lots of old jingoist war films from that era that I like. But Nolan doing BE nostalgia in '17 makes me want the Nazis to develop a nuke.

wait this is based on a true story?

yeah, a classic good vs evil story. I wasn't expecting something to better Rossellini's War Trilogy from a clown like Nolan. But even taken as a basic action movie, this is very poor imo.

love2Churchill

The sense of scale is all wrong as well, it should be subtitled 100 people on a beach.

― calzino

also, Mail/Express cheerleaders? not sure what you're referring to exactly.. (my apology)

these are right-wing tabloids in britain that loved the film's alleged jingoism

glad to see the pure cinema minimalist Nolan doesn't need special fx, stop it lol!

One of my favourite war movies evokes the Western Front without casts of thousands or CGI. But this just does look like 100 actors pissing about on a beach at the best of times. Atonement isn't a particularly great movie but it's Dunkirk evacuation scenes are least evocative, CGI and all.

This was good twouldnt make me take the soup or anything

The bit where branagh looked through his binoculars to see already clearly visible and anticipated boats just so he could say "heaume" was shit

The rest was good

"This was good twouldnt make me take the soup or anything"

fucking puddle watter has more nutrients than Nolan soup.

Ah now of all ilxors not to get a historical reference

I'm just talking bout Nolan here, y'know. I do get BE imperialism and the famine etc..

Nolan eh? That's not a very English name now is it?

he's obviously a product of fucking diminished tatty watter!

Cast also tbh

i watched this a couple weekends ago, familiar war-movie sentiments in a gaudy package

that boy soldier on the run gave a fine silent-film-style performance tho

i love him, he was v good

finally got around to seeing this, it was almost exactly what i was expecting, which i guess says something about me or nolan or both of us

it's very handsome, it's very pleased with how cleverly-structured it is, and it is almost entirely emotionally inert, which is quite an achievement given that it's the story of hundreds of thousands of desperate men standing on a beach waiting to die

you might imagine would that would be hard to make into anything other than gripping, flopsweat-drenched human drama but this is christopher nolan baby and he can make distant, stories filled with numb robotic characters out of even the juiciest raw material

the air combat scenes were indeed gorgeous to look at and tom hardy was great but nolan manages to hamstring himself in this section with his own cleverness by having the three timelines converge and then diverge again, intercutting hardy running out of fuel with the soldiers coming home, which makes it seem like hardy's just been gliding back and forth across the skies over dunkirk for the entire night

kinda appropriate tho that a movie so metaphorically bloodless should be so literally bloodless too - you'd expect there to be some claret spilled when soldiers on the beach are being hit point-blank by bombs but iirc the only actual blood we see is when the enid blyton kid on mark rylance's boat falls down and whacks his noggin

also hans zimmer's ever-present score was like tinnitus

just watched. I actually found the music score annoying and a tad innapropriate in most scenes. Apart from that it's a decent movie.

Finally saw this. Thought it was pretty good! Agree the aggressively modern white noise soundtrack was a little ... discordant, but I'm not sure I would have preferred a more predictably rousing score. I also agree with a (neither here nor there) criticism that everyone is just a little too handsome, but whatevs. Also agree that it was a surprising decision to make the movie virtually bloodless, but given so much of it is kind of metaphorically bloodless (by design) it kind of goes with the cold theme, like the entire movie is being experienced through a haze of shock.