best films of the 21st century

Happy Hour is less like Ozu than The Family :) I watched them a couple days apart.

I think Yi Yi is also far enough away from Ozu. Thought it used it as a template but veered significantly from it, which is why I was excited about it at the time beyond the execution being all-round amazing too!

Hou's Cafe Lumiere and Kiarostami's Five were both dedicated to Ozu and released in the centenary year of Ozu's birth (2003) - the Kiarostami especially is quite an oblique response to Ozu

i think the way yang contemplates the tension between individual will and the pressures of family is oz-like

er, ozU-like

Jonathan Rosenbaum's list:

https://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/2017/06/my-25-favorite-films-of-this-millennium-so-far/

JR counting on another 983 years of cinema

FIN DE ROSENBAUM

FIN DE ROSENBAUM

nice list, tho Bernie & Fernanda Hussein, ai yi yi

no cloudy with a chance of meatballs no credibility

MacGruber

When in doubt, the answer to most questions is MacGruber, I find.

I remain mystified by his affection for Down with Love.

This never made its way into the thread: https://www.filmcomment.com/article/film-comments-end-of-the-decade-critics-poll/

I like this list because There Will Be Blood is all the way down at #5.

Loads I need to see on the Rosenbaum list

what the FUCK do critics see in Million Dollar Baby?

Down with Love also a fave of the erstwhile ilxor KJB

Data point: I saw Alexander Payne do a Q&A last month, and he said the only masterpiece of the 21st century so far was Amour.

He's half right in that Alexander Payne has directed no masterpieces this century.

he's half right in that Amour is the closest thing to a great movie directed by Haneke.

noooooooooo

Time of the Wolf, maybe

Code Unknown. This isn't hard, people.

I know. Yet you insist on making it so.

So long as we all know it's not Benny's Video.

Code Unknown.

Cache

i've seen 6, none w/in shouting distance of great

but looks good next to Gaspar Noe

You've between you named all the postmillennial Haneke besides the best one

His 90s stuff is better anyway.

His 90s stuff is without merit.

besides the best one

Funny Games 2.0! Oh, wait.

(haven't seen The White Ribbon tbh)

Haneke sucks.

No eye for composition! Couldn't work his way around a camera with two hands and a map!

I like a couple of Haneke films but hus superior/hectoring tone is a real liability when it takes over

speaking of beloved movies I loathe, down with The Turin Horse beyond the opening shot

Force Majeure!

speaking of beloved movies I loathe, down with The Turin Horse beyond the opening shot

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.),

isn't The Turin Horse a long opening shot

Hoberman's

http://j-hoberman.com/2017/06/25-for-21/

The Clock would definitely be on mine, but i saw maybe 30% of it.

He lists four Cronenberg movies and can't make room for more than one Kiarostami post-2000?

I must watch Down with Love (Reed). I love that JR uses the serious "surname only" format in his brackets.

I think I probably saw 30% of The Clock too. It was a fine few hours, but I'd rather not think of it as a film.

If one allows O.J. Made in America, one must allow The Clock.

And the "Single Ladies" music video.

and Jerry Lewis' last telethon monologue about p0rn

Embrace of the Serpent should start making it onto some lists imo

It would be on my list, jmm. I don't think my list will be published.

i liked it fine, but a little too psychedelic for greatness.

I liked it too but better film touching on similar subject called Ixcanul you should check out.

Too hard to put this order, so top 15 I really really love

Children of Men
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
A History of violence
The Tree of Life
Another Year
Anomalisa
Cache
Bad Santa
American Splendor
Im Not There
Offside
Chopper
Dead Man's Shoes
Team America: World Police
Worlds greatest dad

Inside Llewyn Davis
Blue is the warmest colour
Toni Erdmann
American honey
Synecdoche, New York
There Will Be Blood
Dogville
Apocalypto
Before the devil knows youre dead
Elephant

the other 10 are almost a 10/10 imo