I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

still, somehow

TY

No

y'all don't know what bottoms are

Hey, FUCK YOU.

it's hardening's illusions I recall

Oh, sorry...got caught up in the moment there

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-adviser-son-post-image-trump-s-deplorables-featuring-white-n646431

Prominently featured over Trump's right shoulder: popular white nationalist symbol, Pepe the Frog.

"Pepe the Frog is a huge favorite white supremacist meme," Heidi Beirich of the Southern Poverty Law Center told NBC News of the meme.

While Pepe the Frog may not be a household name, the meme is known to members of the alt-right on the internet.

"It's constantly used in those circles," Beirich said. "The white nationalists are gonna love this because they're gonna feel like 'yeah we're in there with Trump, there's Pepe the Frog.'"

that is a weird reading of pepe the frog

It's not really usable as a campaign issue, because no Democrat will be able to say the words "Pepe the Frog" without breaking into hysterical laughter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ASRlzeLg0U

Here is how Trump responded to the question: “You have one of the landmark buildings down in the financial district, 40 Wall Street. Did you have any damage? What’s happening down there?”

“40 Wall Street actually was the second-tallest building in downtown Manhattan, and it was actually, before the World Trade Center, was the tallest. And then, when they built the World Trade Center, it became known as the second-tallest. And now it’s the tallest.”

none of this even seems real

http://ih0.redbubble.net/image.52958584.7208/mp%2C550x550%2Cgloss%2Cffffff%2Ct.3u6.jpg

http://igcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/11430328_998558706845369_1530897226_n.jpg

when reached for comment, paul ryan choked back tears and said "feels bad man"

I feel bad for Matt Furie re: Pepe

xps holy shit that audio is massively fucking offensive

i don't understand how that audio just surfaced yesterday but whatever. it just reaffirms what we already know -- he is a frightening narcissist

the thread title this election deserves

i'd prefer "the economy collapsed eight years ago and look at americans kiss rich ass"

How about: "Seriously, America? Fuck you."

https://familyinequality.wordpress.com/2016/09/12/polarization-written-on-the-body-google/

https://familyinequality.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/trump-margin-searches.jpg?w=500

dorkfish?

xps yeah how did that audio just get discovered? not that it matters

#HillarysBodyDouble is trending on Twitter

lol i was just coming here with this

https://twitter.com/lyz_estrada/status/775138350030139392

how are these people so crazy. why does HRC make people crazy. what is it about her. it's misogyny but not just that. the shit other woman politicians get is not like this.

it's a 90s thing you should be glad you don't understand

re other women politicians : if they had as much power as HRC, they'd get shit like her too

Superpredators 4 Hillary

So this is still a thing: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57d66670e4b0273330ac45d0

Of course it is. Dead-enders carry the label for a reason.

it's called "filling column inches"

(but really, what an awesome candidate HRC has proven to be just since July! great job, Dems!)

the shit other woman politicians get is not like this.

Every Democrat who has run for President since Clinton has received this sort of conspiracy treatment.

yep. Swift Boat Veterans!

saw this making the rounds

http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-blackface-photo/

awesome, doesn't look even a little bit like Bill. that rodeo pic is p funny tho

Yeah, anyone who bought that just reeeeally wanted to.

yet her opponent has actually said verifiably racist shit over and over and is facing a real-life rape trial. hmm

Every Democrat who has run for President since Clinton has received this sort of conspiracy treatment.

yeah this treatment works! it sells books, gets the base rabid, helps undermine the candidate regardless of how ridiculous it is. there's no reason for them to stop.

are there identifiable masterminds? i want to read a like 8000 word NYRB piece about the consistent names behind the ginned up conspiracies, how the PACs connect, whodunit basically. it's too consistent to be random.

it's not really a mystery is it?

Related to that HuffPo-piece, saw a depressing 538-piece today. Clinton is down with millennial, the group also fueling Bernie Sanders. But the votes hasn't gone to Jill Stein, as the HuffPo says, but twice as many has gone to Gary Johnson. Which is massively depressing.

what is...aleppo?

everybody calm down, no major voting blocs are moving, Trump has just managed to avoid total faceplants for a couple weeks.

Oh, I don't think Clinton will lose. I just still find the poll numbers for Johnson depressing.

if Hillary is forced to step aside, I wouldn't mind Tim Kaine as POTUS. i think he would have a much better chance against Trump even this late in the game: no baggage, he comes off well in interviews, slightly more conservative than Hillary...

According to Heavy.com, there’s still a chance for Bernie Sanders to become nominee if Clinton drops out

saw this making the rounds

http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-blackface-photo/

― Οὖτις, Monday, September 12, 2016 6:18 PM (forty-one minutes ago)

cracking up at that snopes article's painstaking, methodical comparisons of the blackface pic with old photos of Bill and Hillary to establish that no, those two completely dissimilar looking ppl are not in fact the Clintons

it's kind of weird how that guy does look like a young version of 2016 Bill Clinton, but doesn't actually look like Bill Clinton did when he was young.

Kaine wouldn't be the nominee should HRC drop out; he would, though, remain vice presidential nominee no matter whom the DNC would select.

hate this election so much tbh

And Clinton ain't dropping out

a) it looks desperate, b) it isn't ON TAPE/objectively verifiable, c) it automatically generates sympathy for Hillary, d) it's more horrible shit coming out of Trump's mouth

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He should quote some of the shit Hannity says to him in private. Because come on, every talks like this, what's the big deal?

"Hannity told me I have the biggest balls"

(xpost) It wouldn't help Trump, no, not at all. But would HRC want that stuff said, if she thinks Trump's liable to say it? It is her husband.

xp to Neanderthal and it may not lose him any votes with those fuckheads, but it'll lose him votes with EVERYONE else.

I don't think Hillary should be losing any sleep over how this affects Bill.

lol nytimes story doesn't even mention the "grab them by the ---" line

are you seriously worrying about Hillary's feewings being hurt by some dumb bullshit coming out of a desperate, flailing Trump's mouth

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pretty sure there's nothing Bill has said about women that Hillary hasn't heard already.

"Bill said he liked having his balls licked, but that he liked to douse them in olive oil first--"
'Trump'
"No Anderson, this is important...."

*Mr Trump

lol nytimes story doesn't even mention the "grab them by the ---" line

― marcos, Friday, October 7, 2016 11:39 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The recording could prove damaging to his efforts to seem presidential

they could, they're just not sure yet

HRC has to be hoping that trump says something, because i think an easy "get" is "oh now we're supposed to believe your word when you and your running mate tell us we shouldn't believe the words we hear coming out of your own mouth were ever actually said nor would they mean anything if they were"

Alex - I kinda feel like Trump's cratering anyway so ain't denying his chances are basically vanishing daily but I dunno if this is gonna be the individual knockout blow that we think it should be (even though any candidate in previous years coulda been deflated by it, look at Herman Cain - granted those were lawsuits but...).

but Trump has proven that he isn't Teflon at this point. it's just that we greatly underestimated how polarized the populace is that some people will mark D or R no matter wtf their candidate does.

the times does include "bitch" and "tits", so maybe they thing their readers are better than they used to be about keeping down their breakfast?

I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary lulls him into thinking she's not going to needle him this go around, and just subtly find ways to force him to talk about the things on his own, because then not only does he look bad, he then can't even claim she brought it up.

and best believe this item, even with less than 48 hours prep time, is gonna get added into the fray. but it'll be an ace in the hole cos, well, she kinda has a lot more ammo than at the first debate, kinda amazing considering IT JUST HAPPENED

lol Fox has also excised the "grab them by the pussy" line

You're probably right, she'll bring it up because she can, and because there's no defense, all Trump can do is dig himself a deeper hole. Personally, I wouldn't; the tape's out there, nothing more needs to be done. Anyway, she won't have to bring it up; it'll be brought up by a questioner, and if not--if it's allowed, I'm not sure--by a moderator.

the thing that bugs me about the "tu quoque" defenses is that, I get that dummies are quick to use it, but I sorta want to ask them "ok, even if you're right, you've proven that other people say this thing too and might be hypocrites, but do you *personally* think it's ok or *not bad* to say something like this, and would you be ok with someone who talked like that driving your daughter to school, teaching her class, supervising her prom?". like what is your 'actual opinion' on what he said?

that's what makes it a fallacy

I'm curious whether the Hillary team is hearing this for the first time too, or if it came from their camp. It must be fun getting to strategize on things like this.

i keep thinking about this line from http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump

“If Trump came to power, there is a decent chance that the American experiment would be over. This is not a hyperbolic prediction; it is not a hysterical prediction; it is simply a candid reading of what history tells us happens in countries with leaders like Trump. Countries don’t really recover from being taken over by unstable authoritarian nationalists of any political bent, left or right—not by Peróns or Castros or Putins or Francos or Lenins or fill in the blanks. The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal. Ask Argentinians or Chileans or Venezuelans or Russians or Italians—or Germans. The national psyche never gets over learning that its institutions are that fragile and their ability to resist a dictator that weak.”

and that's why i want the press to just keep hitting and hitting and hitting right up and through the election. it's good for the national psyche. i don't think it undoes what he's done, especially since the "he's verifiably a racist" stuff has been seen by everyone to make depressingly little difference. but humiliating him in a two horse race then dismantling him psychologically and financially is a start.

Trump's basically just pouring gasoline on himself at this point, and Hillary doesn't just have a box of matches, she has a flamethrower

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or if it came from their camp

this was totally leaked to WaPo by some PA from the network or similar

the cameraman, the sound engineer, the dolly operator, etc. those guys keep this stuff.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/mike-pence-donald-trump-comments-women-229303

boom operator (doubt there was a dolly shot involved lol)

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didn't the NYT tax return story come out last friday afternoon? is there a plan to do this on fridays?

are you seriously worrying about Hillary's feewings being hurt by some dumb bullshit coming out of a desperate, flailing Trump's mouth

No. On one hand, I'm simply treating her like a normal person who might conceivably not want this guy who's pure unchecked id attributing equally gruesome quotes to her husband, regardless of political calculation, the truth of them, whether they can be substantiated or not, etc., and on the other, saying that he'll be getting from every direction anyway. I mean, there are political scandals all the time that have such a finality about them that you just get out of the way.

oh lmao trump and ryan have an event together tomorrow!!

Trump might wanna tell his campaign what other shit he remembers saying to people in the last decade that might hurt him.

Well the cliff's notes at least

should we just have a new thread every friday?

this one already hit 5000 posts

oh lmao trump and ryan have an event together tomorrow!!

yessss

beautiful http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/paul-ryan-trump-campaigning-together-229238

seriously can we get a new thread going

haha this is awesome

seriously can we get a new thread going

― Οὖτις, Saturday, October 8, 2016 5:57 AM (three seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I tried to view all comments and it crashed my phone :(

Eight different lines you could use from today's video clip for a title...

please don't, as mentioned

to NRO + commentary types credit they are all uniformly disgusted by this

elite = someone who believes bragging about groping a married* woman's vagina is a bad thing

* nb assault obv is assault + disgusting no matter what the marital status but i still think the violation of marriage is a significant enough transgression that it's worth including

The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

Trump's basically just pouring gasoline on himself at this point, and Hillary doesn't just have a box of matches, she has a flamethrower

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― Οὖτις

just want to point out that a box of matches would probably be easier to use in this situation than a flamethrower

that man are, without shame, claiming to talk like this in private makes a very strong case that rape culture is very real - i'm saying this as someone who had felt we culturally condemned rape significantly but obviously it was bc i was naive bc talking like this would be unfathomable among the ppl i know. i apologize for being dense about this.

that mea culpa belongs on a different thread, methinks

(tbh the last couple years have opened my eyes on this topic - esp wrt the justice system - but this is just next level to be bragging about this shit and think it's ok on any level it's horrifying it's like finding out you're living in a horror movie)

Trump/Kremlin/Assange strike back? https://www.rt.com/usa/361990-clinton-podesta-emails-wikileaks/

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https://mobile.twitter.com/jackallisonLOL/status/784515366995099648