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my fellow liberal cucktards and white-genocide lesbians! the deplorables have risen, and what are we gonna do about it?

cf men's rights thread, that's racist thread, batshit cartoons thread, donald trump thread etc

fwiw https://www.rt.com/viral/361510-alt-right-cheat-sheet-racist/

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:13 (two years ago) Permalink

feel free to use 'hitlers' and 'deplorables' interchangeably itt

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:17 (two years ago) Permalink

"Hitlers" gives them the power they want. We don't want any of these people to start the Siege of Leningrad.

how's life, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:23 (two years ago) Permalink

what can they really besiege though, it'll be shit like Green Room from here on out, unless they seize power of a whole country (ahem)

actually Green Room feels like the first film of the resistance to this shit

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:41 (two years ago) Permalink

Ressentiment can tear a society apart. Absurd as these cuckmasters seem, I don't feel sanguine about the threat they pose.
Con

Treeship, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:52 (two years ago) Permalink

how are they alt though?

nashwan, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:00 (two years ago) Permalink

They have the courage to actually say what everyone's thinking, unlike what-used-to-be-mainstream PC cuckservatives?

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:13 (two years ago) Permalink

They use new forms of dehumanizing slang -- not just old fashioned slurs -- which is pretty alt.

Treeship, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:38 (two years ago) Permalink

what gets me is - what is their culture? what is their art? what do they even like?

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:49 (two years ago) Permalink

They're an alternative to US right wing consensus - instead of being pro free markets, pro Christian morality or pro strong defense they are just pro white nationalism. This obviously isn't /new/ but it is untraditional in the US and has (and continues?) to be a marginal movement. Their culture is on /b/ and maybe idk theredpill. It's memes, vidya, anime, gore pics, creepypasta, cruel lolz, cringe, and tons and tons of pr0n.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:57 (two years ago) Permalink

a marginal movement

Um, isn't their candidate the Republican nominee for President?

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:02 (two years ago) Permalink

do they not like music, to paraphrase achewood

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:05 (two years ago) Permalink

I mean, it does feel like the logical endpoint of 4chan, but warped to such a putridity of feeling that I fail to see how these creatures can function in anything approaching society

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:07 (two years ago) Permalink

also, have Anonymous declared war on them yet, or is there overlap?

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:09 (two years ago) Permalink

you're so warped by being a cucked sjw that you can't see that their vision of society is the right one, maaaaan

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:09 (two years ago) Permalink

They have a music board you can check out. They like vaporwave. Re Trump he is their candidate but not exclusively idk it's hard to gauge.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:10 (two years ago) Permalink

i think there is some overlap

xp

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:10 (two years ago) Permalink

there's an alt right sketch comedy show on Adult Swim now, Million Dollar Extreme, created by this guy:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca5Sg3NUsAENTlG.png

larry appleton, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:12 (two years ago) Permalink

their legitimation on adult swim is deeply unsurprising

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:13 (two years ago) Permalink

their liking of vaporwave makes a weird sort of sense. they are the death eaters

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:14 (two years ago) Permalink

i'd like to take this opportunity to big up my favourite alt-right dipshit davis aurini: ostentatious whisky drinker, skull enthusiast, publicly-funded kung-fu movie auteur, and three-time winner of the international skeleton from superted lookalike contest

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ix1Xr8QHpRw/maxresdefault.jpg

just look at his lil' face!

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:15 (two years ago) Permalink

These guys are just adorable

don't even see how this was a duck (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:17 (two years ago) Permalink

I forgot to cf rolling fedora

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:18 (two years ago) Permalink

i've been watching million dollar extreme. sometimes it is really really funny, and sometimes it is ideologically okay (like the sketch about our shitty drinking water) and then they just say something openly misogynistic or racist or the sketch is just brutally uncomfortable. idk i'd like to discuss it but i don't have much to say. it's clearly unique, and sam is clearly v smart + funny, and also i'm disappointed in adult swim for giving them a platform.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:19 (two years ago) Permalink

i don't think fedora is entirely linked. there may be associations/links between fedora/brony culture and the alt-right but generally speaking i think fedoras are more likely to show up in cringe threads than be worn by hardcore white supremacists.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:20 (two years ago) Permalink

where is the alt-right music board?

soref, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:20 (two years ago) Permalink

I forgot to cf rolling fedora

― imago, Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:18 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

how's life, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:21 (two years ago) Permalink

xxp counterpoint:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t4AcWFogD60/maxresdefault.jpg

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:21 (two years ago) Permalink

http://boards.4chan.org/mu/

nb that i don't think 4chan is 100% alt-right but i think broadly speaking a lot of the aesthetic comes from there and there's lots of crossover. i wouldn't consider st0rmfr4nt alt-right - that seems more traditionally racist to me.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:22 (two years ago) Permalink

some of these shitheads are throwing a pro-trump art festival in my borough, i read on the hardening thread.

look at the morning people (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:28 (two years ago) Permalink

I looked at that /mu/ for one minute and some poor schmuck started a thread about how Esperanza Spalding, a black female artist, is really good (which she is) - devoured in seconds

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:34 (two years ago) Permalink

I don't think Million Dollar Extreme is really a part of this

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:37 (two years ago) Permalink

sam for sure is and mde board on reddit certainly believes it is

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:47 (two years ago) Permalink

MDE absolutely is

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:48 (two years ago) Permalink

They're an alternative to US right wing consensus - instead of being pro free markets, pro Christian morality or pro strong defense they are just pro white nationalism. This obviously isn't /new/ but it is untraditional in the US and has (and continues?) to be a marginal movement.

Well, maybe I'm misunderstanding alt-right. I thought it referred to e.g. Breitbart/Milo Yiannopoulos, who I thought are still more or less pro- a lot of those things as well as being more blatantly racist and nationalistic than, say, Mitt Romney.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:51 (two years ago) Permalink

i would just like to point out that i wrote about these guys 4 years ago

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:52 (two years ago) Permalink

Milo isn't alt-right. He's an alt-right wannabe / fellow traveller.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:53 (two years ago) Permalink

Oh, I thought he was a quasi-leader. I'm probably on way the wrong page, then.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:54 (two years ago) Permalink

sam for sure is and mde board on reddit certainly believes it is

my impression of MDE is that it's an elaborate troll on anything and everything, I'm guessing the alt-right probably has claimed him but I dunno if Sam has any real political views besides "lol"

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:54 (two years ago) Permalink

politics for various alt-righters probably differ but on those topics i'd guess the majority are pro-protectionism anti-immigration agnostic on Christian morality (and in many cases ideologically opposed to religious faith) isolationist or in some cases extreme hawkism (drop nukes on the middle east). and of course the central component is defending the race against #whitegenocide. also jew-hating.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:55 (two years ago) Permalink

frogbs you've seen this? https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-alt-right-has-its-own-comedy-tv-show-on-a-time-warner-ne

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:56 (two years ago) Permalink

Wait hold on, Breitbart is core alt-right.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:57 (two years ago) Permalink

i think the key attribute marking the "alt" (a p fraught and dumb prefix imo) is determinism.

xp

I dunno if Sam has any real political views besides "lol"

― frogbs, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:54 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god knows if i can or want to find it again but there are forum posts out there by him that are the now-standard post-libertarian line, like: "i used to be apolitical and in favor of freedom, but now i see that america has been ruined since the civil rights movement and feminism, it needs to be purged" etc

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:58 (two years ago) Permalink

Wait hold on, Breitbart is core alt-right.

― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:57 AM (twenty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they are johnny come latelies

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:58 (two years ago) Permalink

it's really not. it jumped on the alt-right bandwagon thru Milo but he started as just an observer and tho the alt-right will pretty much accept any celebrity legitimacy they can get, he remains a controversial figure in the movement (bc he's gay and jewish). he wrote this around the time breitbart began embracing the alt-right: http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/ - where you can see that he's interacting w/ them more as an anthropologist than a participant. xxp

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:59 (two years ago) Permalink

didn't realise that Yiannopoulos had jewish heritage

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/203888/donald-trumps-little-boy

soref, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:05 (two years ago) Permalink

frogbs you've seen this? https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-alt-right-has-its-own-comedy-tv-show-on-a-time-warner-ne

― Mordy, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:56 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I guess I never really followed the persona behind it too closely. I read a lot of that stuff as a parody of the alt-right, though I suppose at this point, what's the difference

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:06 (two years ago) Permalink

goole you always amaze/scare me with your knowledge of this stuff

k3vin k., Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:12 (two years ago) Permalink

Dark Enlightenment feeds into this, right?

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:13 (two years ago) Permalink

i guess my knowledge of this stuff is just unsurprising :p

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:15 (two years ago) Permalink

BREAKING: Cody Wilson, the Austin man behind 3D-printed guns who has been accused of sexually assaulting a 16-year-old girl, has been arrested in Taiwan, according to media outlet Taiwan News. https://t.co/Z3Opaa2E1m pic.twitter.com/Bv8eY4UNF8

— Austin Statesman (@statesman) September 21, 2018

I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 21 September 2018 13:40 (one month ago) Permalink

In other news, penniless loser to address conference of Morrissey's favourite political party.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/sep/23/katie-hopkins-speak-far-right-for-britain-islamophobe-holocaust-denier

Zach Same (Tom D.), Monday, 24 September 2018 17:05 (four weeks ago) Permalink

xp can any among us name a single guy named Cody who is not a complete oxygen thief?

suzy, Monday, 24 September 2018 17:10 (four weeks ago) Permalink

I'd say Cody from popular science YouTube channel Cody's Lab but he's constantly combusting things so

imago, Monday, 24 September 2018 17:12 (four weeks ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svHDHnxYjs4

Zach Same (Tom D.), Monday, 24 September 2018 17:12 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Idk
There is a fuckhead named Cody currently sucking the life out of a dozen of my friends via nuisance lawsuits
Delete em all imo

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 13:29 (four weeks ago) Permalink

something like 8 out of the top 100 world ranked bullriders are named cody

the only cody i can think of who seems alright is the earwolf engineer but i don't know ihm maybe he's got some dark secrets

vote no on ilxit (Will M.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 13:57 (four weeks ago) Permalink

When was Anne-Marie Waters banned from Twitter?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:00 (four weeks ago) Permalink

all in

maura, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 18:34 (four weeks ago) Permalink

that's sort of encouraging?

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:07 (three weeks ago) Permalink

ha, didn't notice that one of the guys arrested was the dude who was fired from Top Dog in Berkeley earlier in the year
https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Berkeley-hot-dog-cook-fired-after-Charlottesville-13275976.php

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 00:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Alt right in the wild : smartly dressed young hipster (skinny jeans, pointy Italian shoes, blue on white paisley-ish button-up shirt) reading a hardcover of Dinesh D’Souza The Big Lie on the E train from Queens into Manhattan this morning

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 14:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

gross

shrek and han solo kinda dress the same (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 14:14 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I only noticed the book because the title is in big third reich letters

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 14:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

If only the fact that he titled his own book The Big Lie were a sign of self-awareness.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 14:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Didn’t d’souza found a college in midtown?

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 14:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

ooh good point

dude got off at a station that would support that

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 15:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I'd say Cody from popular science YouTube channel Cody's Lab but he's constantly combusting things so

― imago, Monday, 24 September 2018 17:12 (one week ago) Permalink

Cody's Lab rules!

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 15:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

more like white supremi-sissy-ist, amirite?

calzino, Saturday, 13 October 2018 10:27 (one week ago) Permalink

Milo now looks like an unflattering Ben Garrison cartoon of a 'triggered SJW', not sure this will play well with, um, anyone.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 13 October 2018 10:35 (one week ago) Permalink

Mind you, rapist judge Kavanaugh seems to have shown that you can have an incoherent bawling tantrum in public and still have the support of the army of twats, so maybe it doesn't matter now.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 13 October 2018 10:39 (one week ago) Permalink

Howard Jacobson did a comprehensive denouncement of Kavanaugh/Trump etc on R4 last night, and then finished the broadcast by saying woman should be banned from using the word "patriarchy" because it makes them sound like students!

calzino, Saturday, 13 October 2018 10:45 (one week ago) Permalink

Mind you, rapist judge Kavanaugh seems to have shown that you can have an incoherent bawling tantrum in public and still have the support of the army of twats, so maybe it doesn't matter now.

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 13 October 2018

Main differences for me, are

1) Kavanaugh doing it on the way up, not down. Anything is excused if it deployed in the service of winning
2) Kavanaugh doing it on someone elses media, not his own social media page.
3) Kavanaugh mixing it up with anger, and at 'them'. Just enough of "whos the real victim here anyway?" before switching the play back onto attack. Supporters recognize game

anvil, Saturday, 13 October 2018 11:10 (one week ago) Permalink

Don't get caught being yesterdays man

anvil, Saturday, 13 October 2018 11:11 (one week ago) Permalink

Having sad tantrums is totally on brand for the alt-right

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 13 October 2018 14:38 (one week ago) Permalink

Gavin McInnes gave a talk last night in Manhattan and then some Proud Boys beat up some people, made video, and took group photos.
http://gothamist.com/2018/10/13/proud_boys_beating_video.php

ian, Saturday, 13 October 2018 16:53 (one week ago) Permalink

Multiple disturbing videos taken at the scene appear to show dozens of Proud Boys swarming two people on the ground, shouting "you're dead, motherfucker" and "faggot" as they take turns attacking them. Three people were arrested following the event, according to police, though a public defender with the Legal Aid Society says she's confirmed that the arrests were of anti-racist protesters.

Nice

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 13 October 2018 17:17 (one week ago) Permalink

The dude with the sword? That’s Gavin McInnes, founder of the far-right fascist gang the Proud Boys. The vandalism? No evidence that it’s “antifa.” The violence? Videos from last night show abt 20 Proud Boys beating 3 people while they’re on the ground.

This is so infuriating https://t.co/AaIM5gpmqL

— Christopher Mathias (@letsgomathias) October 13, 2018

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 13 October 2018 17:31 (one week ago) Permalink

That was in response to a fox news story claiming this was an incident of “antifa” violence

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 13 October 2018 17:32 (one week ago) Permalink

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45851665

piscesx, Saturday, 13 October 2018 23:17 (one week ago) Permalink

gavin m makes me wish that fentanyl cut heroin was more of a thing in the 90s and 00s

maura, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:31 (one week ago) Permalink

(i was on a panel with him once and all he talked about was his smack shooting past. how glamorous. he’s a fucking idiot.)

maura, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:32 (one week ago) Permalink

Vice Magazine was the trojan horse for so much of this back in the day, it's pretty disgusting to go back and think about early issues which were scattered for free strategically around hipster hoods in L.A. (and i'm sure even moreso in NYC and the like.)

omar little, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:35 (one week ago) Permalink

oh yeah they were all over new york

maura, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:36 (one week ago) Permalink

the only "antifa violence" I can seem to find anything about in the incident is someone pulling a MAGA hat off a guy's head.

Proud Boys seems like a vehicle for basement-dwelling softies to run with a few actual skinhead gang members and feel tough as they get their one kick in on a defenseless guy getting jumped by 20 people.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 15 October 2018 17:07 (one week ago) Permalink

I used to work for a publisher that put out two issues of the Vice "Dos and Don'ts" photos, which often amounted to photographic sexual assault of unconsenting young women in various compromising positions. So I'm glad Vice "grew up" or whatever but spare me.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 15 October 2018 18:24 (one week ago) Permalink

everyone i ever met that regularly read Vice was either an idiot or an asshole. and yes those early issues were all over Manhattan in the early 00s.

flappy bird, Monday, 15 October 2018 18:27 (one week ago) Permalink

I definitely know a few former "Vice hipster" types who have gone alt right.

A strange memory that just came back to me: in the late 90s when I became acquainted with that crew of people in college and didn't really know anything whatsoever about that scene/milieux, I remember observing that there was this set of them who were huge record nerds but listened to almost no black music whatsoever, as far as I could tell, and I just found that really odd, like how could you be a music nerd and have so little interest in black music. At the time I just kind of dismissed the thought, but now it makes sense to me.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 15 October 2018 18:32 (one week ago) Permalink

Cernovich is going back to jail lol

frogbs, Monday, 15 October 2018 20:34 (one week ago) Permalink

lol, what a turd

Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes goes on Newsmax TV to distance himself from members of his group who attacked protestors Saturday night in NYC. He says he doesn't "control these guys," and "I'm the founder, not the leader." https://t.co/8PWoRqwUfA

— Nick Martin (@nickmartin) October 15, 2018

maura, Monday, 15 October 2018 23:41 (one week ago) Permalink

god what an utter piece of shit he is, was, and forever will be

maura, Monday, 15 October 2018 23:42 (one week ago) Permalink

Cernovich is going back to jail lol

Wait is this real, I hope?

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 02:50 (one week ago) Permalink

Please share this video. People need to understand how dangerous Gavin McInnes and his gang the Proud Boys are.

Notify his employers @CRTV and @FoxNews. Maybe we can prevent him from getting someone else killed. pic.twitter.com/zp0VBrmciR

— Vic Berger IV (@VicBergerIV) October 17, 2018

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 20 October 2018 19:58 (three days ago) Permalink


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