the alt-right

I'm about halfway through that 4chan piece and while it's fascinating in its own right, I feel like "skeleton key" is overselling it ludicrously. These dudes are loud on the internet and gleefully took credit for Trump's victory, and it's certainly a worrying cultural trend in its own right, but I feel like as far as support for Trump goes they're a sideshow at best. Young people voted for the dude less than any other age group iirc, and while there's ideological overlap between them and your average Trump voter there's also pretty clear differences - average Trump voter couldn't care less about female Ghostbusters or ethics in gaming journalism and, to the extent they're even aware of these types, probably feel contempt for their basement dwelling, anime hair ways. And they certainly didn't vote Trump because they think he's a loser.

man, even the right's newfound "pedophilia is a bridge too far" stance seems so fake right now. I mean we had this politician who would openly brag about barging into the locker rooms at Miss Teen USA and checking out the women and they elected him President of the United States.

Well, it's pedophilia when it involves boys.

I think his real crime was impugning the character of Catholic priests

but the Pope is still an asshole

I see Mr Spencer fancies himself a music critic

https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/834799915058470917

Spencer was at CPAC but apparantly has just been kicked out

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/02/23/cpac-organizer-denounces-alt-right-as-left-wing-fascist-group/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.90dc00ee9473

Over a few confusing minutes, Schneider argued that the “alt-right,” a term coined then popularized by the National Policy Institute’s Richard Spencer, was philosophically left-wing because it departed from his definition of conservatism, in which “the individual” is sovereign.

“They hate the Constitution. They hate free markets. They hate pluralism,” Schneider said. “Fascists tend to want big government control.”

Well well.

Um.

Wat?

I see Mr Spencer fancies himself a music critic

https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/834799915058470917

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:36 AM (forty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugJ8TQh9gaM

"fascism is a species of leftism" has been an article of faith in american conservatism for a while now.

We're not even on a "I actually mean the opposite of the blatant lies I'm telling" level of attempted reality alteration anymore. This is some "that sandwich is actually a rabbit and rabbits are the antithesis of everything I stand for and also please ignore me as I savor this delicious sandwich that I'm eating" unknitting the very fabric of meaning shit.

And it's unnecessary! These people are white supremacists and fascists. Their supporters are white supremacists and fascists. They would love for you to vocally embrace those tenets. And the people who oppose you see right through your shit no matter what garbled nonsense you spew as a smokescreen.

relevant

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=45uy-TtkD1k

xposts

never forget:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41c95cZRicL._SX322_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

The Politics of Change

fuck everyone

I've tried

Isn't this the umpteenth reincarnation of nazis saying 'Hitler was a socialist!1!'?

Neanderthal otm

Over a few confusing minutes, Schneider argued that the “alt-right,” a term coined then popularized by the National Policy Institute’s Richard Spencer, was philosophically left-wing because it departed from his definition of conservatism, in which “the individual” is sovereign.

interesting rhetoric from people who can't keep the words "god" and "america" out of their mouths for two seconds

Ha, click this for the relevant two pics

https://mobile.twitter.com/Slade/status/834802177843527683

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tee hee

everything involving richard spencer in 2016 made me sick inside
everything involving richard spencer in 2017 makes me feel like dancing a jig

CPAC trying to front like its not crawling with breitbart and alt right people is some comedy

I wondered how long it would be before we had to deal with Death in June & Boyd Rice. Their label just got put on an SPLC list:

http://www.wweek.com/news/business/2017/02/21/a-northeast-portland-record-label-lands-on-a-national-hate-group-registry/

"It's just music and it's just money. I just go where the customers need me."

No, this makes you a Nazi collaborator, sorry

"Powne says he's "mystified" by the hate-group listing. "The solution to bad speech is not to shut it down, but to overcome it with more speech," he says."

ok. "you're a hate group". that's speech.

got into a mini discussion on this today on fb.

i can't believe death in june is their top selling artist when there are other legitmate things on Soleilmoon

The Soleilmoon thing is weird because as a label they've only released one limited edition 7" by Death In June. Sad that they've released so many great records by Daniel Menche, Merzbow, and the Legendary Pink Dots, and yet Doug P's pathetic Nazi cosplay strum-along is apparently vastly outselling all those.

Boyd Rice would probably brag that he's been trying to "Make America Great Again" since the 1970's.

No winners in all of this mess :(

the artists in question don't seem to have any products listed on the label's site anymore; dunno if that changed since a couple days ago

oh haha man there's no such thing as an ironic totenkopf

https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20170107092313/https://www.soleilmoon.com/

fucker was selling literal SS insignia for this band and says he's "perplexed"

hope all these legitimate acts take their business elsewhere

sorry I'm just furious that this guy was selling death's head pins and claims to be motherfucking "mystified"

so sad that soleil moon frye has been put on the hate list

https://m.facebook.com/notes/richard-spencer/my-ranking-of-30-years-of-depeche-mode-albums/405659696810/

excellent find

obviously spencer isn't a racist, look how highly he rates BLACK celebration!

trying to remember who it was that recently reiterated that the flirtation with fascist imagery in british late 70s/early 80s acts to be "edgy" was immature and that people should grow the fuck up

https://twitter.com/ChristinaMcMc/status/834804567544041474

https://twitter.com/maura/status/834802503145373697

https://twitter.com/goldengateblond/status/834852609798262784

looks like this guy was first:

https://twitter.com/nworbdet/status/1650302183

http://www.avclub.com/article/depeche-mode-tells-lifelong-fan-richard-spencer-fu-250908

...Nevertheless, he maintained that he has been “a lifelong Depeche Mode fan.” It’s a statement borne out by Spencer having done stuff like rank all of the group’s albums on Facebook, his placing of Black Celebration over both Music For The Masses and Violator just one of the many ways in which he is always wrong.

[...]

While it’s perhaps not on the level of Chris Christie being repeatedly spurned by Bruce Springsteen, or Paul Ryan being forced to delete Rage Against The Machine from his “Getting Pumped” gym playlist and replace it with the death rattles of cancer patients, there is always some small, meaningless sliver of joy in seeing a band telling one of its most devoted fans to get fucked. Now if only someone would forward this to New Order’s Peter Hook.

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/02/23/p.c.-culture-vs.-the-big-joke

Hasnt the "DIJ are fascists" thing been a thing for a really long time? No one can act suprised about it now, surely.

you know when you know someone and decide to stop hanging out with them because you told them a certain behavior annoys you, and they keep doing it on purpose around you because they think that's funny? that's the DIJ dude and his SS symbols