i would guess that 9 out of 10 of those responses are from people who either identify with the alt-right or have condoned them through silence over the last year and are too far in to back out without ostracizing them from their shitty friends
― Karl Malone, Saturday, August 12, 2017
late to this, but I think there are a lot of bots/multiple online identities at work here
as I mentioned, this is my hometown. A high school friend's son was among those injured by the car, thankfully not seriously.
http://www.mkgandhi.org/speeches/dandi_march.htm
― sleeve, Sunday, 13 August 2017 00:44 (six years ago) link
(I can only hope that this is a national moment similar to the Salt March incidents)
― sleeve, Sunday, 13 August 2017 00:46 (six years ago) link
Driver identified as James Alex Fields Jr.
A man with the same name and age was booked Saturday on suspicion of second-degree murder, malicious wounding, failure to stop for an accident involving a death, and hit and run
Elsewhere, he's identified as former US Army and registered Republican.
― #IMPOTUS (Sanpaku), Sunday, 13 August 2017 00:49 (six years ago) link
These alt right groups are more disciplined than that.
Lol r u serious these ppl are clowns playing dress up and should be ridiculed (and punched, when necessary) as such. The dude driving the car was sime 19 yo panicky jackass from toledo.
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 13 August 2017 00:51 (six years ago) link
man alive otm. Violent fantasies are unhelpful. We don't need am antifa vs fascist ground war that makes the right and left look like a moral wash to the disengaged
Despite trump's win, most people are not sympathetic to swastika tattooed people or people who attack people with their car. Perfect situation for nonviolent tactics
― Treeship, Sunday, 13 August 2017 00:52 (six years ago) link
xposted from Trump thread:
https://www.gofundme.com/medical-fund-for-comrades-in-cville
― sleeve, Sunday, 13 August 2017 00:53 (six years ago) link
Where was this thing organized? r/thedonald? More subterranean parts of the web?
― Treeship, Sunday, 13 August 2017 00:55 (six years ago) link
Lol r u serious these ppl are clowns playing dress up and should be ridiculed (and punched, when necessary) as such.
http://i.imgur.com/NOAJ6gK.jpg
― The Man Who Saw The Midwife (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 13 August 2017 00:57 (six years ago) link
!
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 13 August 2017 01:00 (six years ago) link
Captain America would be so proud
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 13 August 2017 01:02 (six years ago) link
I'm 100% serious. They're dumb, conformist foot soldiers and the people organizing them are smart.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Sunday, 13 August 2017 01:03 (six years ago) link
Who are they?
― Treeship, Sunday, 13 August 2017 01:04 (six years ago) link
The organizers
― Treeship, Sunday, 13 August 2017 01:07 (six years ago) link
Is it not in part Spencer? I thought the torch thing was his hallmark.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Sunday, 13 August 2017 01:08 (six years ago) link
If I read that WaPo story correctly, this James Alex Fields Jr. who owns the car that killed the antifa counter-protestor was being held without bail at the time of the fatal attack. This points to perhaps a 'friend' or acquaintance of his taking advantage of Fields having an airtight alibi and cloaking his identity by borrowing the car. That's what I understood from it at least.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 13 August 2017 01:09 (six years ago) link
― #IMPOTUS (Sanpaku), Sunday, 13 August 2017 01:12 (six years ago) link
the_donald are fairly hands-off on this, calling it a George Soros operation.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 13 August 2017 01:39 (six years ago) link
i have nothing useful to add to the discussion of the horrible events in charlottesville. but as far as violent fantasies go I would just add that given the society we live in, going out and committing violent acts, or even many nonviolent ones, needs to be weighed against the reality of who will bear the consequences and reprisals. lotta times the shit-starters, however righteously they may be fired up, are not the ones who are going to face police violence or deportation or worse later on. also I think violence is wrong. that is all.
― yellow is the color of some raisins (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 13 August 2017 01:40 (six years ago) link
Nazis starting to be IDed
when the main dude in this photo is in most of your history classes and always spouts fascist and racist comments pic.twitter.com/PIH3uXbqaZ— Bailey M. Gamberg (@bayymontana) August 12, 2017
― Moodles, Sunday, 13 August 2017 01:49 (six years ago) link
Also, in case the identity of the driver was still in question
NBC News: James Alex Fields Jr., age 20, has been charged with second degree murder in connection with the car ramming in Charlottesvile. pic.twitter.com/XW6oIXcC6r— Tom Winter (@Tom_Winter) August 13, 2017
― Moodles, Sunday, 13 August 2017 01:54 (six years ago) link
thanks for that, sincerely
― sleeve, Sunday, 13 August 2017 01:57 (six years ago) link
if one of these dudes tries to act physically intimidating in a one-on-one confrontation I fully support jacking them in the groin as hard as you can
― mh, Sunday, 13 August 2017 01:57 (six years ago) link
then steal their car keys
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/charlottesville-and-the-bigotocracy.html?mwrsm=Facebook
― sleeve, Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:01 (six years ago) link
https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20768212_10155678053549744_5889283837034084343_n.jpg?oh=1d8d78729fdc10d37626333f4aa029b0&oe=5A2694E0
― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:05 (six years ago) link
Then use the keys to gouge their eyes out, lay them on the ground in front of their car, and use the keys to start the car and drive back and forth over their neck and waist. Hack their phone and send pictures of the results to their family.
There should be no oxygen for white nationalists in my country. They should be beaten and starved to death, every one. Oubliettes, and shame for their parents.
I'm pissed.
― As an ilxor, I am uncompromising (El Tomboto), Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:16 (six years ago) link
The more I read about it, the more I'm very happy about how hard the counterprotestors fought back against the fascists, especially after reading that Richard Spencer was tweeting to followers to leave Charlottesville.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:20 (six years ago) link
xp/tom on this we agree
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:24 (six years ago) link
shame for their parents
Shame, but maybe a bit of sympathy.
Mr. Fields’ mother, expressed disbelief upon learning Saturday of the accusations against her son. She said he told her last week he was going to an “alt-right” rally in Virginia, but didn't know what it was about."I try to stay out of his political views. I don't get too involved,” she told The Blade. "I told him to be careful ... if they are going to rally, to make sure he is doing it peacefully," she said, before breaking down in tears.
"I try to stay out of his political views. I don't get too involved,” she told The Blade.
"I told him to be careful ... if they are going to rally, to make sure he is doing it peacefully," she said, before breaking down in tears.
― #IMPOTUS (Sanpaku), Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:26 (six years ago) link
fuuuuuck i hate having to sound like Internet Police but can we please please please not have the violent fantasies, thanks. yes i want these fuckstains dead, no i am not going to kill them, no i am not going to describe in exquisite detail in public how i would like them to die.
― The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:26 (six years ago) link
NAME EVERY FACE. https://t.co/G35eNOu7AO— Queen Dylizabeth (@kosherDYL) August 12, 2017
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:28 (six years ago) link
The far right has been totally driven out. Militia evacuated, traditionalists flee. Anti-racists cry in victory. Watch all of this video. pic.twitter.com/0WZ9Ji5g1v— Jack Smith IV (@JackSmithIV) August 12, 2017
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:28 (six years ago) link
Col. Martin Kumer, the superintendent of the Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail, confirmed Saturday evening that an Ohio man, James Alex Fields Jr., 20, of Maumee, had been arrested and charged with second-degree murder, three counts of malicious wounding and failing to stop at the scene of a crash that resulted in a death.
i don't get this. that's it? he only gets charged for the people he actually hit? he was trying to kill as many people as possible! there isn't some sort of charge for attempting to murder people? there were way more than 4 people involved. send this fucker away for life
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:29 (six years ago) link
rushomancy otm
― Treeship, Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:30 (six years ago) link
I accidentally flagged Doctor Casino's post, but totally didn't mean to.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:31 (six years ago) link
― Karl Malone, Saturday, August 12, 2017 7:29 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I assume that's just for starters
― softie (silby), Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:35 (six years ago) link
I could watch a loop of those last few camo jackasses backing out of the crowd like they're doing some kind of military maneuver
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:36 (six years ago) link
I don't know if it's helpful to share this, but I very very rarely fantasize about violence. There was a video clip on twitter last night where a white woman marcher yelled at an antifa protestor, "you sound like a n-----"Ever since I saw that clip, I've been imagining punching her out. Which I likely couldn't successfully do; I've never punched anyone, and I have no upper body strength. I think my point is, there's a kind of rage that is social; you don't have it, it has you. It's part of why marches like this are so volatile--they unleash that thing in people who've been marginalized.
I guess I'm saying, while I think Doctor Casino is right and what he says is valuable, situations like this that dramatize social inequality breed violence, at the very least in people's hearts. It's part of why today's events made me so sad. I feel like worse is coming.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:40 (six years ago) link
yeah that's probably what they could cobble together in the few hours so they could lock him up. when they figure out names of the other victims they can charge him with more assaults/att. murders.
― assawoman bay (harbl), Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:42 (six years ago) link
Many more IDs in this thread
If you recognize any of the Nazis marching in #Charlottesville, send me their names/profiles and I'll make them famous #GoodNightAltRight pic.twitter.com/2tA9xliFVU— Yes, You're Racist (@YesYoureRacist) August 12, 2017
― Moodles, Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:42 (six years ago) link
Agreed, horseshoe. We're supposed to be having an anti-racist solidarity protest in my town tomorrow, I want to participate but I'm nervous about what may come out of me if racists approach us. We're all on some frightening ground right now.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:43 (six years ago) link
My grandfather used to tell me stories about going to fascist marches in chicago when he was a kid and throwing rocks and bricks at them. He was from a neighborhood where streetfights were pretty common and someone had slashed him with a knife at school, and this was way pre-King so I don't think he had the kinds of dilemmas about violence that we do at that time. I hadn't thought about this in years but after reading the news today I definitely started fantasizing about doing the same.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:43 (six years ago) link
I feel like worse is coming.
this is why considering violence isn't totally out of bounds imo
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:44 (six years ago) link
The fact that they had an armed militia with them makes me think the next time they'll feel empowered to open fire on counter-protesters.
― Moodles, Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:46 (six years ago) link
I don't know about *next time*, but that's definitely the idea they want to plant in your head.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:48 (six years ago) link
Here's a photo of @Millennial_Matt with Trump and carrying a burning torch in Charlottesville. This isn't complicated. pic.twitter.com/NXh4Rvyf0v— Raf Sanchez (@rafsanchez) August 12, 2017
― Moodles, Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:49 (six years ago) link
I mean, I do find them terrifying! Terrorism works.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:50 (six years ago) link
I hope these guys are found by the police, arrested or watched when necessary and hope people will help the police do it but I'm wary about increased usage of doxxing as a tactic. All sorts of shitheads would do it more than they already do and its easy to smear someone with all kinds of things. Some of these alt-right guys are desperate to find ways of smearing their opponents as sex offenders. I'm glad these Nazis are being identified but I hope people are careful with what information they release, I don't want people going after their families and stuff like that.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 13 August 2017 03:00 (six years ago) link
doxxing is horseshit but we have an administration which has clearly signalled its unwillingness to enforce the law against white nationalists. given that there's an obvious need to confront white nationalism, it's not much of a surprise that vigilantes are taking a more active role.
― The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Sunday, 13 August 2017 03:18 (six years ago) link
I don't know if it's helpful to share this, but I very very rarely fantasize about violence. There was a video clip on twitter last night where a white woman marcher yelled at an antifa protestor, "you sound like a n-----"Ever since I saw that clip, I've been imagining punching her out. Which I likely couldn't successfully do; I've never punched anyone, and I have no upper body strength.
u got to work the body
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/08/10/berkeley-teacher-filmed-punching-neo-nazi-arraigned-sacramento/
― j., Sunday, 13 August 2017 03:27 (six years ago) link