Yeah. I kinda can’t help but empathize with his whole working-out-his-ideas in public thing though. Also he turned away like 20 million dollars he could have claimed after his divorce from Katy Perry.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:36 (six years ago) link
Big fucking kudos for shagging Katy Perry for free that guy
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:37 (six years ago) link
I have a fairly low threshold for praising people
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:40 (six years ago) link
We may not have that in common
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:41 (six years ago) link
slapped with good vocabular momentum
I love this btw. Joycean.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:48 (six years ago) link
Yes, that's clear.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:57 (six years ago) link
Ok, you can’t just second my own self-deprecating comment like it’s your own insult. It’s in the FAQ.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 02:16 (six years ago) link
eh, brand is an idiot forever for that "you shouldn't vote" stuff from a few years back
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 02:19 (six years ago) link
xp treeship otm that shit is lower than sarcasm
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 02:21 (six years ago) link
I like Brand's podcast (despite him being occasionally annoying--which is really only when he tries to be funny) and think he's pretty sharp but doing this right after Sam Harris means I'm gonna have to take a pass on listening to it.
― ryan, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 02:29 (six years ago) link
i liked brand's amy winehouse eulogy
― maura, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 03:21 (six years ago) link
I think peterson just tweeted to a zizek parody account... calling for a duel. He pinned it. Unreal.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 04:58 (six years ago) link
Tbf mistaking a zizek parody for zizek is extremely relatable
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 09:29 (six years ago) link
I'm not a fan of Brand but he has quite an audience and I dunno why you would use that to introduce ppl to Peterson.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 09:43 (six years ago) link
Russell Brand isn’t that bad
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:32 (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
You deserve to be FP'd to death for this.
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 09:57 (six years ago) link
Love how Mordy looked into worker run enterprises and inferred a whole little dystopia out of it. Are you writing this shit up as a novel Mordy where can I buy it?
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 10:11 (six years ago) link
Cut him some slack, the lad's feeling pessimistic :(
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 10:22 (six years ago) link
I'll try but I can't make any promises.
I didn't know Russell speaks big words fast = Joycean, but it's just another day on ilxor dot com.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 10:30 (six years ago) link
Can't quite parse the man-bun plus what looks like it might be an Alcoholics Anonymous hoodie.
― I'm walking on Sondheim (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 10:34 (six years ago) link
Russell BRAND amirite
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 11:47 (six years ago) link
he was pretty much the only person in the public eye trying to articulate this despite how common a view it is & I've yet to see a good counter argument. if miliband hadn't made the changes to the labour party that allowed for corbynism i wld still agree w him. ppl who are much less politically active or effective feel unselfconscious chiding him for his irresponsibility. this is often the case w brand, who more than most ppl just gets dismissed wholesale for a few moral failings or just bc he irks (& obv you can wonder what it says about the culture that a handsome, optimistic, peacocking, working class autodidact annoys so many)
― ogmor, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:11 (six years ago) link
I wasn't aware Mark E. Smith annoyed that many people tbf.
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:15 (six years ago) link
oh you
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:18 (six years ago) link
ogmor otm
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:22 (six years ago) link
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, February 14, 2018 5:30 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I was saying that Dag’s post was Joycean, in its phrasing, because. The typos seemed like neologisms. “slapped with good vocabular momentum.”
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:26 (six years ago) link
I’m going to make Genius annotation pages for each of my posts from now on.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:29 (six years ago) link
He's completely fallen off my radar since the Miliband era tbh, now we've got Corbyn after all, so maybe he's really great now ...
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:31 (six years ago) link
i dunno he seems to be posing approvingly with an actual fascist dick upthread so maybe not
― "oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:32 (six years ago) link
'slapped' was a typo but 'good vocabular momentum' was excellent
― imago, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:35 (six years ago) link
agenbrand of inwit
― I'm walking on Sondheim (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:35 (six years ago) link
darragh can turn a phrase
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:40 (six years ago) link
ogmor makes a good case for Brand - its hard not to feel cynical about his motives at the same time though
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:43 (six years ago) link
my feelings on Brand kind of vacillate wildly but I'm not against him going tete-a-tete with a walking alt-right meme so long as he bodies him
that C4 interview with Peterson was an absolute disaster on account of the dreadful interviewer who wasn't interested in calmly picking off the giant holes in Peterson's arguments. how many times: show, don't tell
― imago, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:51 (six years ago) link
Whoever commissioned that interview should be shot.
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:54 (six years ago) link
yep. C4 knew what it was doing and knew what would happen
― imago, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:54 (six years ago) link
Whatever you think of Brand's "don't vote" position surely it's hard to take seriously when after one interview with Miliband he decided "oh no actually vote labour" after the deadline to register had already expired?
Like I understand that there's something to learning and growing in public but that was just taking the piss.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:55 (six years ago) link
Brand appeared with Ed before the election despite saying don't vote. I just wouldn't trust a thing he says. Xps Too erratic.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:59 (six years ago) link
Who could we trust to interview Jordan Peterson in this damned country? Paul Mason? No. Marina Hyde? Yeah maybe, but she doesn't really do TV work
― imago, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 13:02 (six years ago) link
Maybe that Chakrabortty dude
― imago, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 13:03 (six years ago) link
Are there any homegrown comedians that UK ilxors can stand
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 13:05 (six years ago) link
Or maybe interviewing him in the first place is a lose-lose game, as SV has said before
― imago, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 13:06 (six years ago) link
We only like Stewart Lee and there's a guy called Kitson too but none of his stuff's online. Everyone else is awful (or something)
― imago, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 13:07 (six years ago) link
Does he even have a cult here? It's one thing to confront someone who's already popular, another to introduce new opponents to yr audience.
xpost imago otm afaict. As an immigrant I can never summon the hatred that only true Brits can feel for pretty much all of their celebrities but I will say seeing all these ppl appear on panel shows constantly and have their own dumb history shows on BBC4 has made me understand that rage a bit more
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 13:10 (six years ago) link
I like Sean Lock but I'm not a Brit
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 13:13 (six years ago) link
that Gary Younge guy made pretty short work of Spencer.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 14 February 2018 13:14 (six years ago) link
yeah because he actually examined what he said and showed it up for being bullshit - rather than most interviewers who encounter him by going OH NO YOU DIDNT
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 13:16 (six years ago) link
If you lived here you'd be the same. Does Russell Brand still consider himself a comedian?
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 13:17 (six years ago) link
Love how Mordy looked into worker run enterprises and inferred a whole little dystopia out of it. Are you writing this shit up as a novel Mordy where can I buy it?Wtf are you talking about I said I didn’t think it could be a model for running an entire country where in your fevered idiot brain did that become a dystopia?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 13:20 (six years ago) link
Guess I shouldn’t expect more from a tankie.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 13:22 (six years ago) link
Tom D, it wasn’t a judgement. I’m sure I would be, or at least if I was native. I do think there’s something cultural to the general dislike of people who think they’re funny, that we aren’t brought up with over here. I’m not sure who counts as a comedian these days. There are plenty of people who are generally famous for and make living by joking and clowning but don’t do stand up or act much.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 13:24 (six years ago) link