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The film streaming service from TCM & Criterion Collection goes live in 13 days — October 19th.
$6.99/month for the basic service, $10.99/month (or $99/year) for Filmstruck + Criterion Channel

Who's in?

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:03 (two years ago) Permalink

looks good that they have the commentaries, extras etc of Criterion discs, or at least some of that kind of content. i hope this won't mean the end of the Criterion blu rays. i'm expecting 'that market' will always want the 36 page books and fancy packaging and such. i know i will.

piscesx, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:27 (two years ago) Permalink

I'm in.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:29 (two years ago) Permalink

i wonder why the TCM lot and the Criterion gang decided to get into bed together. i mean Criterion doesn't seem like an obvious match for Ted 'Colourization' Turner.

piscesx, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:30 (two years ago) Permalink

Turner hasn't been involved in years...? TCM is a pretty good channel. Have they ever shown a colorized film?

Cons: US only, no Roku support at launch, extreme vagueness (how many films? "HUNDREDS of films!")

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:37 (two years ago) Permalink

But I'll sign up, at least for a few months.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:37 (two years ago) Permalink

I'll wait to start until Criterion joins up in November. I'll drop the $99 for their catalog alone.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:44 (two years ago) Permalink

Criterion won't be available from day 1? I hadn't heard that part.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:49 (two years ago) Permalink

Yet no one posts on my Fandor thread

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:13 (two years ago) Permalink

November 11th for Criterion. They have to wait for the Hulu deal to expire.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:15 (two years ago) Permalink

Not bad, if you do the $99 once-a-year payment, it's about $20 cheaper than a year of Netflix. Is there any way to browse the TCM catalog at the moment?

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:25 (two years ago) Permalink

On their FB page they said Criterion will be available at launch.

I want to sign up but my two devices (Nvidia Shield TV and XB1) aren't supported.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 6 October 2016 16:35 (two years ago) Permalink

I went by this press release that says the 1th of November.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:13 (two years ago) Permalink

Been reading a lot of information on the website and elsewhere, but haven't seen anything that says the TCM movies will also be part of the package. I have a nagging feeling that they're not. Also wonder if the Criterion movies will be available in 1080, instead of the 720 now on Hulu.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:17 (two years ago) Permalink

I don't think everything on nightly at TCM will be on there but a selection of TCM-sequel films.

I'm going to guess it will be like Mubi with a larger rotating library plus Criterion.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:45 (two years ago) Permalink


Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:46 (two years ago) Permalink

yeah, TCM's tweet that filmstruck "will focus on indie, foreign & cult titles, not Old Hollywood. Some limited titles, not many" considerably dampened my enthusiasm.

intheblanks, Friday, 7 October 2016 04:41 (two years ago) Permalink

my guess is milo z otm re: criterion plus larger mubi. Which is cool, but not the turner library plus janus library nearly nonstop excellence that i had prematurely imagined

intheblanks, Friday, 7 October 2016 04:46 (two years ago) Permalink

I have a Hulu subscription and honestly never watched a single Criterion title. The ones I want, I just buy.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 7 October 2016 11:00 (two years ago) Permalink

I was excited when I thought this was gonna be criterion + old Hollywood tcm stuff. The latter element was critical for me. If it's criterion + buffet of other stuff then no.

look at the morning people (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 October 2016 11:18 (two years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's a bummer. I figured $99 was a no brainer but if it's Criterion plus some random rotating films I don't know.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 7 October 2016 13:53 (two years ago) Permalink

basically i would pay... let's see... $15 a month for some reasonable fascimile of access to TCM's programming without having to have fucking cable tv

look at the morning people (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 October 2016 13:55 (two years ago) Permalink

aw man. I too was pretty stoked for the TCM+Criterion version of this.

DOCTOR CAISNO, BYCREATIVELABBUS (Doctor Casino), Friday, 7 October 2016 13:59 (two years ago) Permalink

This weird in-between time where the biggest events still happen on old-fashioned cable TV, the "prestige" TEH DISCOURSE TV shows are on Netflix, film is either exploded across multiple competing streaming services or iTunes rental downloads that disappear after 24 hours or totally unavailable, video stores are rare — is totally excruciating.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 7 October 2016 14:04 (two years ago) Permalink

whiney otm, i feel a deep nostalgia for, like, 2008-2010, when a full decade of DVD production had led to lot of foreign/classic/arthouse stuff to be available, and Netflix was still in the business of providing just about any DVD that got produced.

intheblanks, Friday, 7 October 2016 16:00 (two years ago) Permalink

Like, the fact that we let this happen is ridiculous:

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 7 October 2016 16:04 (two years ago) Permalink

maybe i just wasn't reading the early filmstruck announcements carefully, but it seems like everyone i know was expecting it to have a major focus on classic hollywood, given tcm's involvement. My guess is that getting streaming rights to that old hollywood stuff is probably just insanely complicated and, from a business perspective, not worth the investment of time and resources. Still disappointing though.

intheblanks, Friday, 7 October 2016 16:06 (two years ago) Permalink

I've never watched any Criterions on Hulu but that's because their interface is such a disaster - you don't know what's streaming in HD, there's no easy way to sort the entire Criterion list, etc. Higher hopes for this, though I'm a lot less inclined toward a burning need to watch Truffaut than when I was 23.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 7 October 2016 16:30 (two years ago) Permalink

Their interface/searching/tagging/credits is all pretty awful in comparison to Netflix and even Amazon Prime. That said, damn I'm gonna have to rush out some screenings before they leave. Better get Lady Snowblood queued up.

Nhex, Friday, 7 October 2016 17:17 (two years ago) Permalink

The FAQ has changed to specify that only 4th-gen Apple TV will support this, so me and my 3rd-gen box are out of luck. I'll have to load a film on my iMac and push it to the tv with Airplay.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Friday, 7 October 2016 20:25 (two years ago) Permalink

With airplay/casting, does it make a difference if you're casting from a phone vs. a computer?

Nhex, Friday, 7 October 2016 20:34 (two years ago) Permalink

(I think my Apple TV is second generation...)

Nhex, Friday, 7 October 2016 20:34 (two years ago) Permalink

I honestly don't know. That time David Lynch cussed traumatized me so bad I've never tried watching film or video on my phone.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Friday, 7 October 2016 20:39 (two years ago) Permalink

sad trombone

Hello film fans:

We want to share some news that the launch of FilmStruck is delayed until November as we work to complete a seamless and easy registration process for subscribers.

Just like the final stages of completing a film, this additional time will allow us to put the finishing touches on FilmStruck in order to bring you a premium service with beautifully curated content and the largest streaming library of world-renowned arthouse, indie, cult and foreign films. Rest assured, we're working hard to bring you the high-quality streaming movie service you've been waiting for.

Thank you for both your patience and your enthusiastic interest in FilmStruck.

The FilmStruck Team

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:47 (two years ago) Permalink

At this point they should wait until the Hulu contract for the Criterions expires.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:51 (two years ago) Permalink

Yep. I wasn't planning on starting any free trial until everything was available.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:58 (two years ago) Permalink

Looks like the Criterions are up with an 11-day overlap with Hulu. Seeing a lot of fussing on the Facebook page about errors while setting up payment.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 1 November 2016 16:34 (two years ago) Permalink

Anyone start using this yet? Any thoughts (apart from the still unavailable (?) Criterions?

Federico Boswarlos, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 00:29 (two years ago) Permalink

I'm in, just getting the apps installed now. I need a tivo app! Apple and Amazon will do for now.

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 01:21 (two years ago) Permalink

Sound like it's worth waiting a few weeks for them to get all the bugs worked out

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 01:24 (two years ago) Permalink

Not available on Roku til Jan so nope for a while. Also copy on their site suggested that virtually all Criterions wd be available but several that I've searched for are not (incl All That Jazz, ugh)

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 01:27 (two years ago) Permalink

They have someone responding to comments on Facebook, putting on the shiny happy face but being really vague with specific questions.

Some Guy Named Dave: Your Criterion selection seems to be quite limited. Are you ever going to offer the same number of Criterion titles as Hulu - over 900?

FilmStruck: Hi Dave, on the #CriterionChannel side you will find the largest selection of Criterion releases available to stream

Me: That doesn't really answer the question that was asked...

FilmStruck: #CriterionChannel has the largest Criterion selection available streaming, more than was ever available elsewhere.

Me: Ozu on Hulu: 30 features, 2 shorts and a trailer
Ozu on Filmstruck: looks like 18 features

Filmstruck: (crickets)

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 01:41 (two years ago) Permalink

Huh, why would it have less than Hulu does? That doesn't make any sense to me. I did notice through a cursory search that they had at least two titles not on Hulu (Godard's Every Man for Himself and Yang's A Brighter Summer Day), so I was hopeful that maybe it had more than Hulu.

intheblanks, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 02:14 (two years ago) Permalink

It doesn't have all the Oshima titles that are currently on Hulu either

intheblanks, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 02:15 (two years ago) Permalink

I'm hoping they're still loading up the buffet table. They have quite a few things that aren't on Hulu -- Blood Simple, that JFK documentary stuff. They got The Killing of a Chinese Bookie back, which disappeared from Hulu a year or more ago.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 02:19 (two years ago) Permalink

I'm hopeful too, though the way filmstruck has been marketed and rolled out has dampened my expectations all around

intheblanks, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 02:22 (two years ago) Permalink

Even Criterion doesn't have the rights to all the Criterions anymore

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 03:05 (two years ago) Permalink

yeah, otm, and i'm sure there are a number of criterions that got dvd release, but where they never had streaming rights. the more i search around on filmstruck the more i think that WilliamC is probably right that they're still adding movies to the service.

intheblanks, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 03:10 (two years ago) Permalink

hm. no amazon app even!

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 16:49 (two years ago) Permalink

TBF, this is the day where they're going nuts with the press.

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 17:38 (two years ago) Permalink

No, but aren't the essays usually available on the product pages at the Criterion website?

I hear you've been having trouble with pigs and ponies. (WmC), Friday, 16 November 2018 22:12 (three months ago) Permalink

The liners for Bad Timing are not here:

Not sure about more recent releases/movies that have been upgraded. I just wanted to read the booklet again because I lent out my copy of Bad Timing and like always have had a very hard time getting it back!

flappy bird, Friday, 16 November 2018 22:23 (three months ago) Permalink

The Painleve shorts were a big discovery for me as well. “Daphnia“ was my favorite of those, the microscopic views functioned almost as hyonoticslly beautiful abstract imagery.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 23 November 2018 05:32 (two months ago) Permalink

Didn’t dig the Farewell Video that much

Gottseidank, es ist Blecch Freitag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 29 November 2018 21:49 (two months ago) Permalink

it is missing the garfunkel interview though

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 21:54 (two months ago) Permalink


flappy bird, Thursday, 29 November 2018 23:12 (two months ago) Permalink

It’s still there.

My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 November 2018 10:41 (two months ago) Permalink

Time of death, 8:12 a.m. I was about 15 minutes into The Awful Truth.

WmC, Friday, 30 November 2018 14:14 (two months ago) Permalink

:( I watched a few minutes of Still Walking to see if I could just now, must have stopped right before they pulled the plug

My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 November 2018 14:21 (two months ago) Permalink

Gonna miss this. Went out with an accidental double feature of The Last Seduction and Body Heat (both first time--had no idea it was basically the same movie!) last night.

ryan, Friday, 30 November 2018 16:14 (two months ago) Permalink

Only signed up very recently, maybe two months ago (I suppose I could look up thread but tl;dr!) and never got fully into the swing of watching things from beginning to end although I did revisit the beginnings of many old favorites. The last thing I watched to completion, on Wednesday, was Naked for some reason.

My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 November 2018 16:36 (two months ago) Permalink

And today I heard somebody accidentally quote the security guard from that so I guess it was worth it.

My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 November 2018 16:37 (two months ago) Permalink

Without the beginning cut off

My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 November 2018 19:23 (two months ago) Permalink

Prior version

My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 November 2018 19:26 (two months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

We got kanopy like a month after we subscribe to filmstruck. There are some hoops to jump through for the former though. I think you can only watch 10 movies a month, and you have to watch them within 3 days.

i took at look at this via one of my (MANY) university employers' library websites, maybe the local public library too, and was discouraged, but going in straight through the kanopy site i was delighted to find that it offered to find my university and offered an immediate authentication using my university login. so, that was cool.

can't find anything definite about a watch limit, maybe i don't have one.

j., Tuesday, 25 December 2018 03:40 (one month ago) Permalink

Watch limits are set by the library, not by Kanopy - so if you don’t see one (eg top right in the phone app), you’re probably unlimited.

sans lep (sic), Tuesday, 25 December 2018 03:47 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah that's what i figured - there's nothing like a number in any prominent location at all - just hard to believe my cheapass state university system would ever cover such a thing : )

j., Tuesday, 25 December 2018 03:49 (one month ago) Permalink

Want to say I am jealous. But it is possible if you have multiple libraries attached that you could be in a state of being “between” libraries in which no watch limit is shown

Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 25 December 2018 03:58 (one month ago) Permalink

Feel like we should have a Kanopy watching thread so we can synchronize our three days if we choose or at least exchange suggestions of what we are watching and discuss.

Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 25 December 2018 04:04 (one month ago) Permalink

I might just start one myself

Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 25 December 2018 04:05 (one month ago) Permalink

I have unlimited Criterion and 4/month non-Criterion through my public library, and so far I haven't had a month where I ran out of credits. It's so nice.

jmm, Tuesday, 25 December 2018 04:16 (one month ago) Permalink

Done. kanopy: thoughtful entertainment. what are you watching now?
(Almost jealous of your unlimited subscriptions, but I can’t really watch that much anyway)

Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 25 December 2018 20:35 (one month ago) Permalink

A new year's email:

All of us at the Criterion Collection wanted to start the year off by thanking you for signing up to become a Charter Subscriber of the Criterion Channel.

We’re excited to report that we are still on track for a spring launch in the U.S. and Canada, on the web and Amazon Fire, Roku, Android, and Apple devices. In the next few weeks we’ll be announcing our launch date and sending along instructions for making your subscription official.

Hopefully "Apple devices" means Apple TV as well as iOS.

Juul Haalmeyer Dancers washout (WmC), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 13:35 (one month ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Enter OVID, a recently announced partnership between academic documentary service Docuseek and six independent film distribution companies. Together, these partners — Bullfrog Films, Distrib Films US, Grasshopper Film, Icarus Films, KimStim, and First Run Features — control the rights to thousands of different documentary, arthouse, independent, and international titles. OVID will be an on-demand subscription service offering selections from these various catalogues.
OVID is planned to launch in March, at which point its slate will consist of hundreds of documentary titles. Fiction titles will be added in the summer, and further curated selections will be made available on a monthly basis. The site stresses that many of these films will be unavailable to see anywhere else. It promises to feature filmmakers Chantal Akerman, Chris Marker, Bill Morrison, Jean Rouch, Wang Bing, Bi Gan, Pedro Costa, Claire Denis, Bruno Dumont, Cheryl Dunye, Eric Rohmer, Raul Ruiz, and Jean-Marie Straub and Danièle Huillet.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 28 January 2019 13:00 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Word is out, if you signed up as a charter subscriber:

The Criterion Channel, our new streaming service for movie lovers, will launch April 8 in the U.S. and Canada.

As a Charter Subscriber, you can start watching right now with our Movie of the Week series, featuring a new surprise every Wednesday from now until the official site launch.

We are so grateful to all of you who have signed up to be Charter Subscribers. Now it’s time to make it official and lock in your benefits, including an extended 30-day free trial (starting April 8) and reduced pricing for as long as your account stays active.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 19:38 (three weeks ago) Permalink

$90 a year, $10 a month btw

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 19:44 (three weeks ago) Permalink

The Criterion Channel will launch April 8 in the US and Canada and will be available on desktop, iPhone, iPad, AppleTV, Roku, and Android devices.

so apparently (at launch at least) no tivo, no ps4, no amazon? how do u miss all my devices criterion?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 19:46 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Charter film appears to be Mikey and Nicky

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 19:46 (three weeks ago) Permalink

cool, gonna try this out and see if I can deal with the inevitably shitty streaming quality. does anyone else live in a city with shit internet?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 19:48 (three weeks ago) Permalink

xpost -- that it is.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 19:49 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Part of the reason I originally got an Amazon Fire TV was that Filmstruck was on there, now Criterion Channel won't be.

Chris L, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 19:51 (three weeks ago) Permalink

^me too

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 20:22 (three weeks ago) Permalink

okay, seems like they worked it out because Amazon Fire is listed in supported tech now

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 February 2019 20:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Happy to learn today from the Bordwell blog that VHX is a temporary platform and that the Channel will have dedicated apps for the streaming devices at the April launch.

ILX Moderator: It's Like a Pressure Wash for Your Insides (WmC), Monday, 4 February 2019 20:54 (two weeks ago) Permalink

That does make much more sense. I'm fine with VHX for my own setup but it seemed kinda weird.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 February 2019 21:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Criterion's next preview movie is Chungking Express, oh darn.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 18:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Stalker is up

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 21 February 2019 17:15 (yesterday) Permalink

A very good choice, that.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 February 2019 17:21 (yesterday) Permalink

Is the Roku app active yet? I searched for it but didn't see it.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 February 2019 17:32 (yesterday) Permalink

none of the apps are up until the official launch on april 8, per their messaging

na (NA), Thursday, 21 February 2019 17:34 (yesterday) Permalink

Yeah pretty much you have to use the VHX workaround until then.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 February 2019 17:36 (yesterday) Permalink

Should this thread title get changed?

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 February 2019 17:58 (yesterday) Permalink

i'm trying to figure out if this will be basically the same criterion movies that were in filmstruck or if it'll be more complete. their website says "access to Criterion’s entire streaming library of more than 1,000 important classic and contemporary films from around the world" but what is their "streaming library"? presumably excludes some movies they don't hold streaming rights for?

na (NA), Thursday, 21 February 2019 18:00 (yesterday) Permalink

sparked by me wondering if i'll be able to rewatch Head on this thing

na (NA), Thursday, 21 February 2019 18:00 (yesterday) Permalink

xp yeah they have just under 1,000 titles in the collection but that includes OOP stuff like Citizen Kane, Do the Right Thing, Third Man, etc. I'd be surprised if they have their entire in print collection available to stream tbh.

flappy bird, Thursday, 21 February 2019 21:49 (yesterday) Permalink

The streaming library includes a fair amount of non-disc stuff like Bulldog Drummond movies and minor films by directors who have better-known films on CC disc. (Basil Dean, Anthony Asquith, Masahiro Shinoda, Keisuke Kinoshita, et al)

ILX Moderator: It's Like a Pressure Wash for Your Insides (WmC), Thursday, 21 February 2019 22:06 (yesterday) Permalink

> Masahiro Shinoda

Silence and Assassination turned up in the post today. what else is on CC?

koogs, Thursday, 21 February 2019 22:13 (yesterday) Permalink

The Channel had (and presumably will have) A Flame At the Pier, Assassin, Ballad of Orin, Double Suicide, Gonza the Spearman, Himiko, Killers On Parade, Love Old and New, Moonlight Serenade, One Way Ticket to Love, Our Marriage, Pale Flower, The Petrified Forest, Samurai Spy, The Scandalous Adventures of Buraikan, Silence, Under the Blossoming Cherry Trees, With Beauty and Sorrow, and Youth In Fury. I think they had his Sapporo Winter Olympics segment from the Olympic Films box. Only 4 of those are available on disc iirc.

ILX Moderator: It's Like a Pressure Wash for Your Insides (WmC), Thursday, 21 February 2019 22:52 (yesterday) Permalink

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