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The film streaming service from TCM & Criterion Collection goes live in 13 days — October 19th.
$6.99/month for the basic service, $10.99/month (or $99/year) for Filmstruck + Criterion Channel

Who's in?

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:03 (two years ago) Permalink

looks good that they have the commentaries, extras etc of Criterion discs, or at least some of that kind of content. i hope this won't mean the end of the Criterion blu rays. i'm expecting 'that market' will always want the 36 page books and fancy packaging and such. i know i will.

http://www.filmstruck.com/

piscesx, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:27 (two years ago) Permalink

I'm in.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:29 (two years ago) Permalink

i wonder why the TCM lot and the Criterion gang decided to get into bed together. i mean Criterion doesn't seem like an obvious match for Ted 'Colourization' Turner.

piscesx, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:30 (two years ago) Permalink

Turner hasn't been involved in years...? TCM is a pretty good channel. Have they ever shown a colorized film?

Cons: US only, no Roku support at launch, extreme vagueness (how many films? "HUNDREDS of films!")

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:37 (two years ago) Permalink

But I'll sign up, at least for a few months.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:37 (two years ago) Permalink

I'll wait to start until Criterion joins up in November. I'll drop the $99 for their catalog alone.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:44 (two years ago) Permalink

Criterion won't be available from day 1? I hadn't heard that part.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:49 (two years ago) Permalink

Yet no one posts on my Fandor thread

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:13 (two years ago) Permalink

November 11th for Criterion. They have to wait for the Hulu deal to expire.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:15 (two years ago) Permalink

Not bad, if you do the $99 once-a-year payment, it's about $20 cheaper than a year of Netflix. Is there any way to browse the TCM catalog at the moment?

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:25 (two years ago) Permalink

On their FB page they said Criterion will be available at launch.

I want to sign up but my two devices (Nvidia Shield TV and XB1) aren't supported.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 6 October 2016 16:35 (two years ago) Permalink

I went by this press release that says the 1th of November.

https://thefilmstage.com/news/filmstruck-and-the-criterion-channel-reveal-subscription-pricing-plans/

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:13 (two years ago) Permalink

Been reading a lot of information on the website and elsewhere, but haven't seen anything that says the TCM movies will also be part of the package. I have a nagging feeling that they're not. Also wonder if the Criterion movies will be available in 1080, instead of the 720 now on Hulu.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:17 (two years ago) Permalink

I don't think everything on nightly at TCM will be on there but a selection of TCM-sequel films.

I'm going to guess it will be like Mubi with a larger rotating library plus Criterion.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:45 (two years ago) Permalink

TCM-esque

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:46 (two years ago) Permalink

yeah, TCM's tweet that filmstruck "will focus on indie, foreign & cult titles, not Old Hollywood. Some limited titles, not many" considerably dampened my enthusiasm.

https://twitter.com/tcm/status/777661149911347200

intheblanks, Friday, 7 October 2016 04:41 (two years ago) Permalink

my guess is milo z otm re: criterion plus larger mubi. Which is cool, but not the turner library plus janus library nearly nonstop excellence that i had prematurely imagined

intheblanks, Friday, 7 October 2016 04:46 (two years ago) Permalink

I have a Hulu subscription and honestly never watched a single Criterion title. The ones I want, I just buy.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 7 October 2016 11:00 (two years ago) Permalink

I was excited when I thought this was gonna be criterion + old Hollywood tcm stuff. The latter element was critical for me. If it's criterion + buffet of other stuff then no.

look at the morning people (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 October 2016 11:18 (two years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's a bummer. I figured $99 was a no brainer but if it's Criterion plus some random rotating films I don't know.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 7 October 2016 13:53 (two years ago) Permalink

basically i would pay... let's see... $15 a month for some reasonable fascimile of access to TCM's programming without having to have fucking cable tv

look at the morning people (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 October 2016 13:55 (two years ago) Permalink

aw man. I too was pretty stoked for the TCM+Criterion version of this.

DOCTOR CAISNO, BYCREATIVELABBUS (Doctor Casino), Friday, 7 October 2016 13:59 (two years ago) Permalink

This weird in-between time where the biggest events still happen on old-fashioned cable TV, the "prestige" TEH DISCOURSE TV shows are on Netflix, film is either exploded across multiple competing streaming services or iTunes rental downloads that disappear after 24 hours or totally unavailable, video stores are rare — is totally excruciating.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 7 October 2016 14:04 (two years ago) Permalink

whiney otm, i feel a deep nostalgia for, like, 2008-2010, when a full decade of DVD production had led to lot of foreign/classic/arthouse stuff to be available, and Netflix was still in the business of providing just about any DVD that got produced.

intheblanks, Friday, 7 October 2016 16:00 (two years ago) Permalink

Like, the fact that we let this happen is ridiculous: http://ww2.kqed.org/arts/2014/09/12/netflix_streaming_dvds/

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 7 October 2016 16:04 (two years ago) Permalink

maybe i just wasn't reading the early filmstruck announcements carefully, but it seems like everyone i know was expecting it to have a major focus on classic hollywood, given tcm's involvement. My guess is that getting streaming rights to that old hollywood stuff is probably just insanely complicated and, from a business perspective, not worth the investment of time and resources. Still disappointing though.

intheblanks, Friday, 7 October 2016 16:06 (two years ago) Permalink

I've never watched any Criterions on Hulu but that's because their interface is such a disaster - you don't know what's streaming in HD, there's no easy way to sort the entire Criterion list, etc. Higher hopes for this, though I'm a lot less inclined toward a burning need to watch Truffaut than when I was 23.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 7 October 2016 16:30 (two years ago) Permalink

Their interface/searching/tagging/credits is all pretty awful in comparison to Netflix and even Amazon Prime. That said, damn I'm gonna have to rush out some screenings before they leave. Better get Lady Snowblood queued up.

Nhex, Friday, 7 October 2016 17:17 (two years ago) Permalink

The FAQ has changed to specify that only 4th-gen Apple TV will support this, so me and my 3rd-gen box are out of luck. I'll have to load a film on my iMac and push it to the tv with Airplay.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Friday, 7 October 2016 20:25 (two years ago) Permalink

With airplay/casting, does it make a difference if you're casting from a phone vs. a computer?

Nhex, Friday, 7 October 2016 20:34 (two years ago) Permalink

(I think my Apple TV is second generation...)

Nhex, Friday, 7 October 2016 20:34 (two years ago) Permalink

I honestly don't know. That time David Lynch cussed traumatized me so bad I've never tried watching film or video on my phone.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Friday, 7 October 2016 20:39 (two years ago) Permalink

sad trombone

Hello film fans:

We want to share some news that the launch of FilmStruck is delayed until November as we work to complete a seamless and easy registration process for subscribers.

Just like the final stages of completing a film, this additional time will allow us to put the finishing touches on FilmStruck in order to bring you a premium service with beautifully curated content and the largest streaming library of world-renowned arthouse, indie, cult and foreign films. Rest assured, we're working hard to bring you the high-quality streaming movie service you've been waiting for.

Thank you for both your patience and your enthusiastic interest in FilmStruck.

The FilmStruck Team

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:47 (two years ago) Permalink

At this point they should wait until the Hulu contract for the Criterions expires.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:51 (two years ago) Permalink

Yep. I wasn't planning on starting any free trial until everything was available.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:58 (two years ago) Permalink

Launched.
Looks like the Criterions are up with an 11-day overlap with Hulu. Seeing a lot of fussing on the Facebook page about errors while setting up payment.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 1 November 2016 16:34 (one year ago) Permalink

Anyone start using this yet? Any thoughts (apart from the still unavailable (?) Criterions?

Federico Boswarlos, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 00:29 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm in, just getting the apps installed now. I need a tivo app! Apple and Amazon will do for now.

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 01:21 (one year ago) Permalink

Sound like it's worth waiting a few weeks for them to get all the bugs worked out

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 01:24 (one year ago) Permalink

Not available on Roku til Jan so nope for a while. Also copy on their site suggested that virtually all Criterions wd be available but several that I've searched for are not (incl All That Jazz, ugh)

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 01:27 (one year ago) Permalink

They have someone responding to comments on Facebook, putting on the shiny happy face but being really vague with specific questions.

Some Guy Named Dave: Your Criterion selection seems to be quite limited. Are you ever going to offer the same number of Criterion titles as Hulu - over 900?

FilmStruck: Hi Dave, on the #CriterionChannel side you will find the largest selection of Criterion releases available to stream

Me: That doesn't really answer the question that was asked...

FilmStruck: #CriterionChannel has the largest Criterion selection available streaming, more than was ever available elsewhere.

Me: Ozu on Hulu: 30 features, 2 shorts and a trailer
Ozu on Filmstruck: looks like 18 features

Filmstruck: (crickets)

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 01:41 (one year ago) Permalink

Huh, why would it have less than Hulu does? That doesn't make any sense to me. I did notice through a cursory search that they had at least two titles not on Hulu (Godard's Every Man for Himself and Yang's A Brighter Summer Day), so I was hopeful that maybe it had more than Hulu.

intheblanks, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 02:14 (one year ago) Permalink

It doesn't have all the Oshima titles that are currently on Hulu either

intheblanks, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 02:15 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm hoping they're still loading up the buffet table. They have quite a few things that aren't on Hulu -- Blood Simple, that JFK documentary stuff. They got The Killing of a Chinese Bookie back, which disappeared from Hulu a year or more ago.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 02:19 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm hopeful too, though the way filmstruck has been marketed and rolled out has dampened my expectations all around

intheblanks, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 02:22 (one year ago) Permalink

Even Criterion doesn't have the rights to all the Criterions anymore

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 03:05 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah, otm, and i'm sure there are a number of criterions that got dvd release, but where they never had streaming rights. the more i search around on filmstruck the more i think that WilliamC is probably right that they're still adding movies to the service.

intheblanks, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 03:10 (one year ago) Permalink

hm. no amazon app even!

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 16:49 (one year ago) Permalink

TBF, this is the day where they're going nuts with the press.

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 17:38 (one year ago) Permalink

Mainly I thought the acting was terrible -- kind of baffled at the praise for Shaver in the lead. xp

I think I would have enjoyed Sweet Movie with added history/context.

WilliamC, Friday, 8 December 2017 21:11 (ten months ago) Permalink

Have really been enjoying the Bill Morrison collection!! Who By Water especially because 1) Vuh-y score and 2) people basically nonstop staring in the camera https://vimeo.com/48669901

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 11 December 2017 23:05 (ten months ago) Permalink

Yes, I'm loving the Morrison. Were you at Big Ears the year they showed The Great Flood with Bill Frisell and band doing the score live? I don't remember if that was this year or 2015 or earlier.

WilliamC, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:19 (ten months ago) Permalink

That's a shame WilliamC, I thought Desert Hearts was really nice. Loved Shaver especially, but both leads were quite brave and sweet IMO

Nhex, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 02:16 (ten months ago) Permalink

WMC - No! I didn't see that!! Dang

We have watched 3-4 of them so far, and Porch is the only one I was unmoved by. It was fine but not essential.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 14:08 (ten months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

The UK version, Filmstruck Curzon, is up and running.
https://www.filmstruck.com/uk/#

WilliamC, Thursday, 8 February 2018 19:40 (eight months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

FilmStruck, Turner’s streaming service for movies, is partnering with Warner Bros. Digital Networks (WBDN) and adding some new features that will expand its film library to some Hollywood classics. As part of the venture, Warner Archive will sunset its service effective immediately, with current subscribers being transitioned to a FilmStruck subscription.

Beginning today, FilmStruck subscribers in the US will get hundreds of new movies and streaming access to films from the Warner Bros. classic film library, including Casablanca, Rebel Without a Cause, Singin’ In the Rain, Citizen Kane, The Music Man, Bringing Up Baby, The Thin Man, Cat People, A Night At The Opera, An American In Paris, and Who’s Afraid Of Virginia Woolf?

http://deadline.com/2018/02/filmstruck-adds-warner-bros-films-as-warner-archive-sunsets-1202301824/

WilliamC, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:14 (seven months ago) Permalink

Awesome, how about Leone?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:48 (seven months ago) Permalink

no results found

WilliamC, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:58 (seven months ago) Permalink

"Beginning today, FilmStruck subscribers in the US will get hundreds of new movies" is an error in Deadline's story. Filmstruck's Tumblr has this: "We’re also adding hundreds of classic films over the next few months."

Today's additions are a 22-film TCM Select bundle, a 23-film Bette Davis bundle, and the complete Astaire-Rogers (10 films).

WilliamC, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:04 (seven months ago) Permalink

When the TCM Select stuff rolled out this week, I decided it was too much to keep updating my spreadsheet, which I was adding to line by line. Providence (and Reddit) sent along some guy who knows his web-scraping shit and created this a couple of days ago: hxxp://www.disobey.com/wiki/FilmStruck

WilliamC, Friday, 2 March 2018 22:54 (seven months ago) Permalink

bookmarked, thanks!

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 2 March 2018 23:11 (seven months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Again and again lately I'm thwarted by Filmstruck. Decalogue's not there, and there's no Spinal Tap; both are ostensibly Criterion, both currently AWOL. Then they get the big WB collection, but no Treasure of the Sierra Madre, no Sergio Leone, no etc. Obviously there are tons of other options there, but still bummed.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 15 April 2018 01:40 (six months ago) Permalink

There are plenty of Criterion movies that aren't there, but they get rotated in and out. Same for WB.

Jazzbo, Monday, 16 April 2018 17:54 (six months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I know. I just haven't seen them rotated in for a long, long while.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 April 2018 17:55 (six months ago) Permalink

Spinal Tap Criterion is out of print, which might mean they don't have the rights anymore

like æ duce says, smell my anvil vapre (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 April 2018 17:59 (six months ago) Permalink

Criterion Spinal Tap is literally why I bought a DVD player way back when.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 April 2018 18:01 (six months ago) Permalink

Why don't you watch your DVD then?

like æ duce says, smell my anvil vapre (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 April 2018 18:09 (six months ago) Permalink

No longer own a DVD player. Well, it's somewhere, but I don't know where it is. I think So: laziness/convenience. And not wanting or needing DVDs is why I subscribe to Filmstruck/Netflix in the first place.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 April 2018 18:13 (six months ago) Permalink

You can currently rent it from Apple, Microsoft, Vudu or the PlayStation Store

like æ duce says, smell my anvil vapre (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 April 2018 18:21 (six months ago) Permalink

Or you can get some nerds to act out all the scenes for you

President Keyes, Monday, 16 April 2018 18:25 (six months ago) Permalink

It's really not that complicated. I know it's not gone forever from every place. The reason I pay for Filmstruck and Netflix is to watch movies on Filmstruck and Netflix.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 April 2018 18:28 (six months ago) Permalink

The reason you pay for Filmstruck and Netflix is that culture started priding convenience over quality

like æ duce says, smell my anvil vapre (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 April 2018 18:32 (six months ago) Permalink

Not your fault, obviously, but we should all temper our expectations to this new reality if we're going to help fund it

like æ duce says, smell my anvil vapre (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 April 2018 18:34 (six months ago) Permalink

Netflix= Stuff you probably wouldn't have paid for back in the video store days but hey there it is

Filmstruck= This is easier than riding a bike to the library all the time

President Keyes, Monday, 16 April 2018 18:43 (six months ago) Permalink

whiney otm in last 2 posts

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 16 April 2018 20:22 (six months ago) Permalink

Kanopy -- which is free if you have a library card -- just added most (or maybe all?) of Fred Wiseman's documentaries.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 16 April 2018 21:20 (six months ago) Permalink

Anybody got Filmstruck UK? Been thinking of ditching Mubi for it and wondered what selection was like.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 16 April 2018 21:33 (six months ago) Permalink

i get kanopy through my employer (public university), but it requires vpn so i can't chromecast it. it's a bummer.

wmlynch, Monday, 16 April 2018 22:28 (six months ago) Permalink

FWIW I don't use VPN and I do use Chromecast.

Watched "Hospital" last night. Some haunting stuff in there.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 20:51 (six months ago) Permalink

yah my employer requires the vpn to access it, not kanopy.

wmlynch, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 00:06 (six months ago) Permalink

wait which library did you use to access it? maybe i'm not trying hard enough.

wmlynch, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 00:07 (six months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Alfred, if you find the idea of browsing 1500 titles to be just too much, here's a thing I maintain: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TWx8-b5fbqenVr6r64hf3GktufPAgc61akPIvKoV2XA/edit#gid=556920267

― WilliamC, Saturday, November 4, 2017 5:17 PM (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is great but what does the color coding mean?

na (NA), Friday, 18 May 2018 21:16 (five months ago) Permalink

The yellow and blue fields were for films I've seen. Red was for films that had expired and weren't available anymore. Every now and then there's a bit of green for films that I started, really hated, and quit watching before the end. I haven't updated that spreadsheet in more than 2 months -- when the huge amount of TCM Select stuff went live I gave up. I thought that spreadsheet at disobey.com (linked upthread) would be a good replacement, but it hasn't been updated in over a month. :(

WilliamC, Friday, 18 May 2018 21:30 (five months ago) Permalink

if You Gotta Move is still on there, i think everyone should watch it
i visited the school after seeing the movie -- that's how good it was

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 18 May 2018 21:36 (five months ago) Permalink

sorry it is GOT TO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Got_to_Move

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 18 May 2018 21:36 (five months ago) Permalink

Filmstruck added The Night of Truth, Kabala, Hyenas, Guelwaar, Dreams of Dust, Sembene, Xala, and Yeelen today

— &rew (@hedgetheater) May 18, 2018

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 18 May 2018 23:21 (five months ago) Permalink

The Other Side of Hope coming June 29th

WilliamC, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 21:29 (four months ago) Permalink

Bill Morrison docs are leaving soon I hear -- and I was wondering if anyone else has trouble with them? Like staggering video?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 22:19 (four months ago) Permalink

I've been blessedly free of playback problems since the service started. I see loads of frustrations on places like Criterionforum.org and their Facebook page, but I've had pretty smooth sailing. Maybe one or two glitches.

WilliamC, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 23:31 (four months ago) Permalink

so nothing on the morrison films? someone else i asked said that she did have issues. i wonder what the problem is?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 23:41 (four months ago) Permalink

maybe it's like only for roku users or something
god i hate companies so much

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 23:42 (four months ago) Permalink

so to watch in browser you need to enable adobe flash?

omgneto and ittanium mayne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 June 2018 02:26 (four months ago) Permalink

fraid so

WilliamC, Sunday, 3 June 2018 03:28 (four months ago) Permalink

Okay, since Criterions mostly dried up from Kanopy, finally going to have to give this a try.

omgneto and ittanium mayne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 June 2018 14:56 (four months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

I had high hopes for the King Kong audio commentary, but there's not much to it really. Harryhausen and Ralston chat while watching the film but don't have much to say beyond "ahh, that's a terrific matte painting there." Merian Cooper and Fay Wray's contributions are cut in from other talks, and almost an hour into it, Wray's only contribution so far is "One nice thing about the picture is that we all remained friends."

WmC, Saturday, 13 October 2018 19:48 (one week ago) Permalink

I love the long overture or original music that's included at the beginning of "Kong." I wish more prints of vintage movies would include those if available.

Jazzbo, Monday, 15 October 2018 14:32 (one week ago) Permalink

Filmstruck now launching in the UK. Free 14 day trial, approx. £6 a month depending on whether you pay monthly or annually. Looking at the UK website so far, the Criterion titles are restricted to those that have been issued on blu ray in the UK, and even then it's not every title. They've also got a deal w/ Curzon/Artificial Eye to include some of their titles too. All in all, a much bigger selection than on MUBI, but MUBI often has films that are otherwise unavailable to view in the UK, whereas there don't seem to be anything that out of the ordinary on Filmstruck so far (plus I get a free subscription to MUBI as part of my Glasgow Film Theatre membership).

Ward Fowler, Friday, 19 October 2018 09:56 (four days ago) Permalink

Was going to dump Mubi for Filmstruck earlier this month when my annual sub ran out, however they offered a year for £22.99 so am sticking with them, at least for another year. Will probably get Filmstruck soon. but hoping their library gets a bit deeper.

Dan Worsley, Friday, 19 October 2018 11:13 (four days ago) Permalink


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