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The film streaming service from TCM & Criterion Collection goes live in 13 days — October 19th.
$6.99/month for the basic service, $10.99/month (or $99/year) for Filmstruck + Criterion Channel

Who's in?

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:03 (one year ago) Permalink

looks good that they have the commentaries, extras etc of Criterion discs, or at least some of that kind of content. i hope this won't mean the end of the Criterion blu rays. i'm expecting 'that market' will always want the 36 page books and fancy packaging and such. i know i will.

http://www.filmstruck.com/

piscesx, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:27 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm in.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:29 (one year ago) Permalink

i wonder why the TCM lot and the Criterion gang decided to get into bed together. i mean Criterion doesn't seem like an obvious match for Ted 'Colourization' Turner.

piscesx, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:30 (one year ago) Permalink

Turner hasn't been involved in years...? TCM is a pretty good channel. Have they ever shown a colorized film?

Cons: US only, no Roku support at launch, extreme vagueness (how many films? "HUNDREDS of films!")

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:37 (one year ago) Permalink

But I'll sign up, at least for a few months.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:37 (one year ago) Permalink

I'll wait to start until Criterion joins up in November. I'll drop the $99 for their catalog alone.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:44 (one year ago) Permalink

Criterion won't be available from day 1? I hadn't heard that part.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:49 (one year ago) Permalink

Yet no one posts on my Fandor thread

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:13 (one year ago) Permalink

November 11th for Criterion. They have to wait for the Hulu deal to expire.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:15 (one year ago) Permalink

Not bad, if you do the $99 once-a-year payment, it's about $20 cheaper than a year of Netflix. Is there any way to browse the TCM catalog at the moment?

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:25 (one year ago) Permalink

On their FB page they said Criterion will be available at launch.

I want to sign up but my two devices (Nvidia Shield TV and XB1) aren't supported.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 6 October 2016 16:35 (one year ago) Permalink

I went by this press release that says the 1th of November.

https://thefilmstage.com/news/filmstruck-and-the-criterion-channel-reveal-subscription-pricing-plans/

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:13 (one year ago) Permalink

Been reading a lot of information on the website and elsewhere, but haven't seen anything that says the TCM movies will also be part of the package. I have a nagging feeling that they're not. Also wonder if the Criterion movies will be available in 1080, instead of the 720 now on Hulu.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:17 (one year ago) Permalink

I don't think everything on nightly at TCM will be on there but a selection of TCM-sequel films.

I'm going to guess it will be like Mubi with a larger rotating library plus Criterion.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:45 (one year ago) Permalink

TCM-esque

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:46 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah, TCM's tweet that filmstruck "will focus on indie, foreign & cult titles, not Old Hollywood. Some limited titles, not many" considerably dampened my enthusiasm.

https://twitter.com/tcm/status/777661149911347200

intheblanks, Friday, 7 October 2016 04:41 (one year ago) Permalink

my guess is milo z otm re: criterion plus larger mubi. Which is cool, but not the turner library plus janus library nearly nonstop excellence that i had prematurely imagined

intheblanks, Friday, 7 October 2016 04:46 (one year ago) Permalink

I have a Hulu subscription and honestly never watched a single Criterion title. The ones I want, I just buy.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 7 October 2016 11:00 (one year ago) Permalink

I was excited when I thought this was gonna be criterion + old Hollywood tcm stuff. The latter element was critical for me. If it's criterion + buffet of other stuff then no.

look at the morning people (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 October 2016 11:18 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's a bummer. I figured $99 was a no brainer but if it's Criterion plus some random rotating films I don't know.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 7 October 2016 13:53 (one year ago) Permalink

basically i would pay... let's see... $15 a month for some reasonable fascimile of access to TCM's programming without having to have fucking cable tv

look at the morning people (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 October 2016 13:55 (one year ago) Permalink

aw man. I too was pretty stoked for the TCM+Criterion version of this.

DOCTOR CAISNO, BYCREATIVELABBUS (Doctor Casino), Friday, 7 October 2016 13:59 (one year ago) Permalink

This weird in-between time where the biggest events still happen on old-fashioned cable TV, the "prestige" TEH DISCOURSE TV shows are on Netflix, film is either exploded across multiple competing streaming services or iTunes rental downloads that disappear after 24 hours or totally unavailable, video stores are rare — is totally excruciating.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 7 October 2016 14:04 (one year ago) Permalink

whiney otm, i feel a deep nostalgia for, like, 2008-2010, when a full decade of DVD production had led to lot of foreign/classic/arthouse stuff to be available, and Netflix was still in the business of providing just about any DVD that got produced.

intheblanks, Friday, 7 October 2016 16:00 (one year ago) Permalink

Like, the fact that we let this happen is ridiculous: http://ww2.kqed.org/arts/2014/09/12/netflix_streaming_dvds/

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 7 October 2016 16:04 (one year ago) Permalink

maybe i just wasn't reading the early filmstruck announcements carefully, but it seems like everyone i know was expecting it to have a major focus on classic hollywood, given tcm's involvement. My guess is that getting streaming rights to that old hollywood stuff is probably just insanely complicated and, from a business perspective, not worth the investment of time and resources. Still disappointing though.

intheblanks, Friday, 7 October 2016 16:06 (one year ago) Permalink

I've never watched any Criterions on Hulu but that's because their interface is such a disaster - you don't know what's streaming in HD, there's no easy way to sort the entire Criterion list, etc. Higher hopes for this, though I'm a lot less inclined toward a burning need to watch Truffaut than when I was 23.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 7 October 2016 16:30 (one year ago) Permalink

Their interface/searching/tagging/credits is all pretty awful in comparison to Netflix and even Amazon Prime. That said, damn I'm gonna have to rush out some screenings before they leave. Better get Lady Snowblood queued up.

Nhex, Friday, 7 October 2016 17:17 (one year ago) Permalink

The FAQ has changed to specify that only 4th-gen Apple TV will support this, so me and my 3rd-gen box are out of luck. I'll have to load a film on my iMac and push it to the tv with Airplay.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Friday, 7 October 2016 20:25 (one year ago) Permalink

With airplay/casting, does it make a difference if you're casting from a phone vs. a computer?

Nhex, Friday, 7 October 2016 20:34 (one year ago) Permalink

(I think my Apple TV is second generation...)

Nhex, Friday, 7 October 2016 20:34 (one year ago) Permalink

I honestly don't know. That time David Lynch cussed traumatized me so bad I've never tried watching film or video on my phone.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Friday, 7 October 2016 20:39 (one year ago) Permalink

sad trombone

Hello film fans:

We want to share some news that the launch of FilmStruck is delayed until November as we work to complete a seamless and easy registration process for subscribers.

Just like the final stages of completing a film, this additional time will allow us to put the finishing touches on FilmStruck in order to bring you a premium service with beautifully curated content and the largest streaming library of world-renowned arthouse, indie, cult and foreign films. Rest assured, we're working hard to bring you the high-quality streaming movie service you've been waiting for.

Thank you for both your patience and your enthusiastic interest in FilmStruck.

The FilmStruck Team

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:47 (one year ago) Permalink

At this point they should wait until the Hulu contract for the Criterions expires.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:51 (one year ago) Permalink

Yep. I wasn't planning on starting any free trial until everything was available.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:58 (one year ago) Permalink

Launched.
Looks like the Criterions are up with an 11-day overlap with Hulu. Seeing a lot of fussing on the Facebook page about errors while setting up payment.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 1 November 2016 16:34 (one year ago) Permalink

Anyone start using this yet? Any thoughts (apart from the still unavailable (?) Criterions?

Federico Boswarlos, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 00:29 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm in, just getting the apps installed now. I need a tivo app! Apple and Amazon will do for now.

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 01:21 (one year ago) Permalink

Sound like it's worth waiting a few weeks for them to get all the bugs worked out

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 01:24 (one year ago) Permalink

Not available on Roku til Jan so nope for a while. Also copy on their site suggested that virtually all Criterions wd be available but several that I've searched for are not (incl All That Jazz, ugh)

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 01:27 (one year ago) Permalink

They have someone responding to comments on Facebook, putting on the shiny happy face but being really vague with specific questions.

Some Guy Named Dave: Your Criterion selection seems to be quite limited. Are you ever going to offer the same number of Criterion titles as Hulu - over 900?

FilmStruck: Hi Dave, on the #CriterionChannel side you will find the largest selection of Criterion releases available to stream

Me: That doesn't really answer the question that was asked...

FilmStruck: #CriterionChannel has the largest Criterion selection available streaming, more than was ever available elsewhere.

Me: Ozu on Hulu: 30 features, 2 shorts and a trailer
Ozu on Filmstruck: looks like 18 features

Filmstruck: (crickets)

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 01:41 (one year ago) Permalink

Huh, why would it have less than Hulu does? That doesn't make any sense to me. I did notice through a cursory search that they had at least two titles not on Hulu (Godard's Every Man for Himself and Yang's A Brighter Summer Day), so I was hopeful that maybe it had more than Hulu.

intheblanks, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 02:14 (one year ago) Permalink

It doesn't have all the Oshima titles that are currently on Hulu either

intheblanks, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 02:15 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm hoping they're still loading up the buffet table. They have quite a few things that aren't on Hulu -- Blood Simple, that JFK documentary stuff. They got The Killing of a Chinese Bookie back, which disappeared from Hulu a year or more ago.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 02:19 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm hopeful too, though the way filmstruck has been marketed and rolled out has dampened my expectations all around

intheblanks, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 02:22 (one year ago) Permalink

Even Criterion doesn't have the rights to all the Criterions anymore

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 03:05 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah, otm, and i'm sure there are a number of criterions that got dvd release, but where they never had streaming rights. the more i search around on filmstruck the more i think that WilliamC is probably right that they're still adding movies to the service.

intheblanks, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 03:10 (one year ago) Permalink

hm. no amazon app even!

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 16:49 (one year ago) Permalink

TBF, this is the day where they're going nuts with the press.

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 17:38 (one year ago) Permalink

Yes, it's not straightforward, but again, free.

Sadly, it's been a very long time since a 10 movie/month limit would be a problem for me!

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 22:44 (four months ago) Permalink

i've got kanopy through the university, but it requires a vpn which then makes chromecasting impossible.

wmlynch, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 22:44 (four months ago) Permalink

Kanopy is great tho how many plays you get depends on the deal struck by your library/institution. However the Roku app, at least on my Roku TV, is complete garbage - buggy as hell, awkward to navigate (tho not as bad as nu-Hulu) and the subtitle tracks are like 15 seconds in advance of the film, rendering all foreign films unwatchable. They've told me by email they're working on it. :-/

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 23:40 (four months ago) Permalink

Romanzo Criminale is leaving on Sept 29, FYI. I check this page periodically: https://www.filmstruck.com/us/coming-soon

Chris L, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 07:26 (four months ago) Permalink

The Ross McElwee docs are leaving in a week, you don't want to miss those. They are unique.

The Thnig, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 07:27 (four months ago) Permalink

"(tho not as bad as nu-Hulu)"

OMG, this is one of those cases where i really think a company is doing something to fuck with me personally. like they know it will drive me insane.

scott seward, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:16 (four months ago) Permalink

i will look into chrome/roku. i probably don't need more ways to watch hours of t.v. but i do miss having criterion at my fingertips even if i often ended up watching more episodes of Nikita when i meant to watch some chantal akerman movie i hadn't seen.

scott seward, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:19 (four months ago) Permalink

xpost yeah what in the fuck is wrong with them? i had only recently gotten oldHulu installed cause spotify just declared I had a free subscription (tho with such an obscene quantity of commercials that watching TV shows isn't worth fucking with), had fun loading up my watchlist with MOR blockbuster rental quality stuff, and then like three days later it morphed into this unbrowsable monstrosity

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:20 (four months ago) Permalink

was wondering about the TCM content and looking at the website i can't help but notice that there are only five westerns listed. which is kinda sad.

scott seward, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:24 (four months ago) Permalink

i don't know why companies feel the need to do that. hulu wasn't perfect but jesus there wasn't anything really wrong with how it looked and it was easy to use. i'm guessing they made it more phone-friendly in some way that escapes me? i don't watch stuff on phones.

scott seward, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:26 (four months ago) Permalink

i think everyone i know had the same reaction to nu-hulu. i think it's an result of people needing to keep their jobs and ABC (always be creating) -- sometimes a thing just needs maintenance, not innovation. this is the world we live in i guess.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:39 (four months ago) Permalink

I've been having trouble with streaming on my Roku TV recently. Tried to watch "Tabloid" but the sound wouldn't synch and the picture kept breaking up. Everything streams fine on my AppleTV.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 28 September 2017 13:03 (four months ago) Permalink

crikey...

https://www.britbox.com/

scott seward, Friday, 29 September 2017 14:06 (four months ago) Permalink

oh.. i guess i should have read this thread a couple days ago.
now how do i see the end of romanzo criminale??

hulu SUCKS i want to cancel it honestly.

also anytime i try to go to the homescreen from filmstruck i'm still getting a reset..

ian, Saturday, 30 September 2017 04:07 (four months ago) Permalink

I had that problem on my Roku but it seems to have been fixed in the last 2-3 days.

WilliamC, Saturday, 30 September 2017 12:13 (four months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Also in the "classy" movie-streaming market: has anyone tried Fandor? They're doing some promotion through MoviePass to try and hook me on $2/month... that's pretty cheap so I probably should just say what the heck, but I already feel like with Kanopy I do have a reasonable number of "good movies" on easy tap...

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 26 October 2017 18:27 (three months ago) Permalink

I have fandor and filmstruck but never watch either because I'm busy.

however, fandor is great, more cult and avant garde type stuff. midnight movies, experimental film etc.

dan selzer, Thursday, 26 October 2017 18:42 (three months ago) Permalink

Some great stuff on filmstruck right now. I had totally forgotten about A Boy and His Dog, which I have somehow never seen. Boy, George Miller sure borrowed a lot from this. Unless it's all in the novella.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 October 2017 19:03 (three months ago) Permalink

couldn't get more than a few minutes into that one when my friend and I tried it a while back :-/ liked the setting and stuff but the sexual violence was very jarring and jarringly handled, for us.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 26 October 2017 19:35 (three months ago) Permalink

FilmStruck & Shudder -- I need nothing else to subsist!

The Thnig, Thursday, 26 October 2017 20:49 (three months ago) Permalink

xpost The sexual violence is one of the things George Miller took.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 October 2017 20:52 (three months ago) Permalink

They're adding Twin Peaks: FWWM on Nov. 16th as a CC Edition, and it will include The Missing Pieces.

http://onvideo.org/criterion-channel-announces-nov-programming/

WilliamC, Friday, 27 October 2017 13:33 (three months ago) Permalink

Imamura's The Pornographers is one I was just checking for the other day; nice to see it will be available soon.

bernard snowy, Friday, 27 October 2017 20:10 (three months ago) Permalink

I couldn't get my Filmstruck Roku app to load today ...

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 October 2017 20:17 (three months ago) Permalink

Even though the more canonical arthouse films tend to be on Filmstruck, I've watched more things on Fandor more for some reason. Maybe its eclecticism is more inviting. It probably helps that I've never had issues with Fandor on the Roku, where Filmstruck wasn't on it for quite a while; just a few days ago I needed to log in to the Filmstruck app again.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 28 October 2017 01:36 (three months ago) Permalink

cool, thanks y'all! I'll mull it. though tbh the moviepass itself keeps me busy enough so maybe this shd just be a year of hitting the theater as much as possible

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 28 October 2017 01:40 (three months ago) Permalink

filmstruck takes fucking forever to load lol

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 28 October 2017 10:07 (three months ago) Permalink

FilmStruck & Shudder -- I need nothing else to subsist!

My man

"the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 30 October 2017 13:59 (three months ago) Permalink

FilmStruck and Shudder exist and are totally affordable but the media elite is tweeting about spending their weekends watching 8 hours of "Guys, E.T. Rubiks Cube Toto"

"the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 30 October 2017 14:01 (three months ago) Permalink

shudder is such an incredible deal

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 30 October 2017 15:39 (three months ago) Permalink

I'm in. Just watched only my second Naruse.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 November 2017 21:36 (three months ago) Permalink

filmstruck takes fucking forever to load lol

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40)

this is a problem yeah

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 November 2017 21:37 (three months ago) Permalink

Sympathies to everyone who's had that problem, but it zips along for me. Even when it crashed my Roku whenever I used the app, it loaded fine and let me finish watching something first.

WilliamC, Saturday, 4 November 2017 22:14 (three months ago) Permalink

the Henson shorts are super enjoyable
Drum West especially, but all the ones I watched were good.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 4 November 2017 22:15 (three months ago) Permalink

I just finished a work production deadline and am looking forward to diving in to a lot of Henson. And Haneke, but probably not at the same time.

Alfred, if you find the idea of browsing 1500 titles to be just too much, here's a thing I maintain: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TWx8-b5fbqenVr6r64hf3GktufPAgc61akPIvKoV2XA/edit#gid=556920267

WilliamC, Saturday, 4 November 2017 22:17 (three months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Ian, it looks like Romanzo Criminale is back for about five weeks.
https://www.filmstruck.com/us/watch/bundle/1520000202

WilliamC, Friday, 24 November 2017 14:05 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

18 Bill Morrison films yessss

WilliamC, Friday, 8 December 2017 17:28 (two months ago) Permalink

thanks for the spreadsheet william ... this is nice!

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:03 (two months ago) Permalink

My pleasure! It was a case of "if you want Filmstruck to do something right, you've got to do it yourself." Probably obvious, but red = expired and blue/yellow = I've seen. Light green = started it, hated it, bailed early.

WilliamC, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:43 (two months ago) Permalink

haha now I want to see what you light greened

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:47 (two months ago) Permalink

Not too many. Track 29, Desert Hearts and Rendez-vous were real cases of 'ugh, crap." With Sweet Movie it was a case of "ok, interesting hammer but could you stop hitting me with it?" and I just didn't have the stomach to stay with Benny's Video last week, the USA has my nerves on edge.

WilliamC, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:23 (two months ago) Permalink

You didn't like Desert Hearts? I enjoyed that one.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 8 December 2017 20:34 (two months ago) Permalink

When I saw Sweet Movie i was in a class called The Films of Dusan Mackavejev being taught by an expert on eastern european cinema, and his giving us a thorough background and understanding of yugoslavian history made Sweet Movie a lot more enjoyable.

dan selzer, Friday, 8 December 2017 21:08 (two months ago) Permalink

Mainly I thought the acting was terrible -- kind of baffled at the praise for Shaver in the lead. xp

I think I would have enjoyed Sweet Movie with added history/context.

WilliamC, Friday, 8 December 2017 21:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Have really been enjoying the Bill Morrison collection!! Who By Water especially because 1) Vuh-y score and 2) people basically nonstop staring in the camera https://vimeo.com/48669901

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 11 December 2017 23:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Yes, I'm loving the Morrison. Were you at Big Ears the year they showed The Great Flood with Bill Frisell and band doing the score live? I don't remember if that was this year or 2015 or earlier.

WilliamC, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:19 (two months ago) Permalink

That's a shame WilliamC, I thought Desert Hearts was really nice. Loved Shaver especially, but both leads were quite brave and sweet IMO

Nhex, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 02:16 (two months ago) Permalink

WMC - No! I didn't see that!! Dang

We have watched 3-4 of them so far, and Porch is the only one I was unmoved by. It was fine but not essential.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 14:08 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

The UK version, Filmstruck Curzon, is up and running.
https://www.filmstruck.com/uk/#

WilliamC, Thursday, 8 February 2018 19:40 (one week ago) Permalink


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