But Will There Be Corgis? Thread Where We Discuss Netflix's THE CROWN

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Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 November 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

I blew through 3 episodes last night and I'm really enjoying it.

I love how the drama is provided by what's happening, they're not being heavyhanded and adding any excess unnecessary melodrama. I was a bit leery that they might Downton it up too much but it's very restrained.

I've heard they're planning to do SIX seasons, to cover the whole reign. Which...holy shit I'm in if it's going to be like this.

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 November 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

They do a very good job of underlining how the role of king/queen weighs very heavily on the person and the family -- like 'ugh my life would have been so much better if this had not happened to me' --- the duty is underscored very intentionally, and they do a good job of showing how disruptive it is to 'normal' life' (normal being landed aristocracy of course so, yknow, lol) (but still)

Jared Harrris' King George was so good

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 November 2016 20:43 (seven years ago) link

still finishing episode 2. will be really thankful when the coughing stops. the king is dead. long live the cough.

scott seward, Saturday, 5 November 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link

when he isn't coughing i love his voice though.

scott seward, Saturday, 5 November 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link

which makes sense cuz he comes from royal voice stock.

scott seward, Saturday, 5 November 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link

does this go into brenda's origins as a 12-ft baby-eating lizard-person or nah

yokohama fuckdolphin (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 5 November 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link

xp
you wouldn't say that about his accent in The Expanse.

He is listed as being in 7 eps on imdb so I presume much flashbacking and maybe not so much coughing to come.

calzino, Saturday, 5 November 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link

lol whut xp

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 November 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link

i was wiki-ing the various royal family members and i honestly had forgotten about fergie. i just hadn't thought of her in years. so much info on her house and her house next to her ex's house and that house burning and then her moving back in with her ex and her ex borrowing money from the convicted pedophile who is friends with donald trump and....i think i see why people like royal watching so much. it's endless.

scott seward, Saturday, 5 November 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link

lol :D

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 November 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link

Casting of Matt Smith as Prince Philip is ludicrous, Phil was impossibly good looking - in an Aryan Master Race way - as a young man, Matt Smith not so much.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Saturday, 5 November 2016 23:21 (seven years ago) link

i wouldnt go that far, i think Smith embodies some of his inherent charm

http://media.vanityfair.com/photos/54ca8cbb494254fc09953fbb/master/pass/image.jpg

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 November 2016 23:32 (seven years ago) link

https://lisawallerrogers.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/queen-elizabeth-and-prince-philip-engagement-july-9_1947.jpg

That's impossibly good looking? I'd have sAid Smith was about as gl if not better. A matter of taste I guess but they're about in the same league.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Sunday, 6 November 2016 00:11 (seven years ago) link

"even his testicles looked like red rosy apples"

calzino, Sunday, 6 November 2016 00:18 (seven years ago) link

ep5 opener: Little Lizzy helping her Dad by pretending to be Archbishop for the coronation gave me all the feels damn this show to hell

<3

also I never knew about that great smog business. 12,000? blimey.

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 November 2016 05:20 (seven years ago) link

worst killer fog in history.

scott seward, Sunday, 6 November 2016 05:27 (seven years ago) link

i was definitely feeling the end of that second episode. DRAMA.

scott seward, Sunday, 6 November 2016 05:28 (seven years ago) link

that whole second episode was just really great t.v. kudos!

scott seward, Sunday, 6 November 2016 05:28 (seven years ago) link

streaking ahead sorry but

Coronation: a+
They used Edward so cleverly in this episode in particular, drag him to his bitchy lowest in the earlier episodes to allow him a bittersweet moment in the sun, very nicely done

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 November 2016 06:46 (seven years ago) link

Never gave much thought to actual practicality of walking in the crown

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 November 2016 06:47 (seven years ago) link

bit of the og magic show

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 November 2016 06:54 (seven years ago) link

ugh
https://youtu.be/LEDp34MRI20

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 November 2016 06:54 (seven years ago) link

probably useless storming into a binge thread 11 hours late but we just watched the first episode and i'm super-impressed by john lithgow's spot-on churchill impression through ~actual acting~ and not just gimmickry. i can't imagine what it's like for a showrunner to take an established actor with an already phenomenal legacy and give them something entirely new that will propel their stature even further.

I've heard they're planning to do SIX seasons, to cover the whole reign. Which...holy shit I'm in if it's going to be like this.

― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 November 2016 07:39 (eleven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and with their intended focus on peripheral members of the monarchy it's easy to see how they'll fill it. the scope for quality drama is mind-blowing.

Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 6 November 2016 08:13 (seven years ago) link

yeah definitely

I really enjoy lithgow as churchill too. I also enjoy them utilizing churchill in his second prime-ministership as much as they do; post-stroke churchill is not as often shown or used in drama & it is quite fascinating to see that "fading glory" portrayed by such a good actor

i didn't expect there to be as much use of peripheral characters - it definitely helps paint the picture more fully

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 November 2016 15:31 (seven years ago) link

claire foy looks so uncannily like a close friend of my mum's did when younger that i don't know how to end this post

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2016 15:55 (seven years ago) link

i already said this on the wolf hall thread but :0

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link

the queen in her old age reminds me of my grandma, and young Lizzy reminds me of my Mum
it's weird all round

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 November 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link

capt peter townshend also reminds me of someone i know quite well

plus queen mary (of teck, george vi's mum, with the grey curls) uses the same asthma inhaler as i did as a kid! (tho she has a fancy mouthpiece also)

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link

lol matt smith's face when the the plane lands after his flying lesson (which i just this second watched) is SOOOO DOCTOR WHOOO

so far i haven't mind him his as philip, but he should stay away from airmen's leather helmets

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link

that first scene of his flying lesson with the deadstick landing is a good example of why I like this show.
In a Downton setting there would have been HIGH DRAMA and pleading for the engine to be turned back on and some kind of STAKES and a lot of music

But no

Two chill dudes just kill the engine, chat for a bit, and then deadstick land the plane in a field and it's cool af

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 November 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link

yes -- except prince philip has turned into doctor who during the flight :)

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link

this is paywalled only but well worth it on the fog: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n19/neal-ascherson/brown-goo-like-marmite

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link

hmmm, there doesn't seem to be any "yas queen" memes featuring Claire Foy yet. Somebody's asleep at the wheel

Number None, Sunday, 6 November 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link

Blimey, some of the fog stuff is like Threads.

trishyb, Monday, 7 November 2016 15:55 (seven years ago) link

Halfway through ep 9, one more to go

Every time Phillip disappoints Lizzy I think back to that promise he made to King George that he would stand by her & i get really mad. then I think how incredibly strong she must have been to weather so much without the steadfast support she should have had from him & it makes her a little bit more impressive in my eyes

Envying the Queen Mum's Scottish castle

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 18:53 (seven years ago) link

Still, up against the wall with the lot of them, Bolsheviks had the right idea etc.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link

yeah I'm not going to go subscribing to Women's Weekly anytime soon

it just gives me an appreciation for the weird difficulties of a job that basically asks you to do nothing

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 19:16 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I do feel for Phil. He has no job and no real purpose. Maybe he thought he would be doing a lot of the work, or that she would at least share more with him, come to him for advice, that kind of thing? I suppose neither of them realised she'd be thrown into it so soon.

trishyb, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link

Although I guess that's what all that horse-stud business is about: him having no real job any more, now that he's done his job by her.

trishyb, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 19:56 (seven years ago) link

idk

they'd been prepping her for queen her whole life, idk what Phil thought would happen

i mean, i'm sympathetic to an extent- it's obv a very unforgiving job esp for surrounding family. but he just seems so stubbornly petulant & not very empathetic to the inherent loneliness she's dealing with

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link

Jared Harris is so good. Bloody love him after this and Mad Men, and fuck it, I'll even take that accent in the Expanse too.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 20:43 (seven years ago) link

yeah he is A+ perfect in this

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link

i'd love a prequel season showing his wartime years, the family in london after the blitz, etc

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

It's all so delicately done, reminds me a bit of the early golden british drama era, the Brideshead Revisiteds, very far from the deluge of period fluff in the wake of Downton Abbey

abcfsk, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link

otm

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link

idk what Phil thought would happen

I think he thought that it would be more of a partnership, like Churchill and his wife. He obviously has plenty of good ideas - like televising the coronation.

trishyb, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 22:43 (seven years ago) link

true

i just hate the petulant absenteeism & carousing

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 23:13 (seven years ago) link

"i'd love a prequel season showing his wartime years, the family in london after the blitz, etc"

A bunch of priv Naziphiles waiting for their government to stop this nonsense and sue for peace might not cut it as a worldwide hit netflix series tbh. I wish next time Netflix have a spare 100m and loads of good actors, they will do a House of Plantagenet epic or something.

calzino, Wednesday, 9 November 2016 00:20 (seven years ago) link

LMAO

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 December 2020 04:51 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/07/revealed-queen-lobbied-for-change-in-law-to-hide-her-private-wealth

The Queen successfully lobbied the government to change a draft law in order to conceal her “embarrassing” private wealth from the public, according to documents discovered by the Guardian.

A series of government memos reveal that Elizabeth Windsor’s private lawyer put pressure on ministers to alter proposed legislation to prevent her shareholdings from being disclosed to the public.

Following the Queen’s intervention, the government inserted a clause into the law granting itself the power to exempt companies used by “heads of state” from new transparency measures.

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 8 February 2021 23:04 (three years ago) link

might be a bit embarrassing for everyone to see what massive wealth you can accumulate by doing fuck all and then being shameless enough to scrounge another £370 million off the state for a bespoke rewire on her yard.

calzino, Monday, 8 February 2021 23:19 (three years ago) link

I have seen one episode (#1) of THE CROWN. I think it could be a good concept, and maybe it's like Shakespeare in being about history via the monarchy? I don't doubt it's well made.

But as I just noted on another thread where Prince Philip was mentioned:

... I don't know much about Prince Philip but an odd thing is - many people who presumably don't usually find him hugely sympathetic or interesting seem to watch THE CROWN where he is a major dynamic protagonist?

I think THE CROWN might well be a good idea and well made (I have seen just one episode), but to me it's a bit of a stumbling block that I have spent most of my life thinking that most of the people in it (ie Royals) are not inherently very interesting, intelligent or insightful people, let alone the system they uphold.

... Is this like Shakespeare again, ie: you don't have to think that Richard II or Henry IV or V were genuinely interesting, you just appreciate the play as a play in itself?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link

it's just a bit of soap opera with a big budget, the people that actually like these Saxe-Coburg freaks were some of its biggest critics.

calzino, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 18:53 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

This latest season isn't that good. It is very hard for me not to see Jimmy McNulty gurning as Charles. He gurns away same as Anderson's Thatcher did.

And I think they are WAY too treading-on-eggshells in their treatment of all the scandal. Which has made for a really weirdly muted season.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 12 November 2022 12:06 (one year ago) link

I did wonder if one of the reasons I find it boring is because I've watched two other dramatizations of the same events in recent years, so it's just kind of dull? I like Elizabeth Debicki very much, usually, but I'm finding her a bit one-note in this.

trishyb, Saturday, 12 November 2022 12:10 (one year ago) link

lol that's not John Major and posh Dom West is such a dud Charles, especially after the last one nailed him so well. After hours of tedium it turns out the Mohamed Al-Fayed ep has been the only good one. Haven't watched any more.

calzino, Saturday, 12 November 2022 13:01 (one year ago) link

Agree with these criticisms. McNulty doesn't look a thing like Charles for one; great actor but he makes Charles seem more likeable than he deserved at this point in his life. I am in love with Elizabeth Debicki but the mannerisms she apes (the tilted down head, eyes looking up) seems to affected and unnatural for her. They nailed the hair though.

I'm on episode 6, so far the best episode is the one that focuses almost exclusively on Mohammed al Fayed. I'd watch an entire season of him and Sydney restoring Villa Windsor, ala the Chateau.

akm, Saturday, 12 November 2022 16:05 (one year ago) link

Oh, Leslie Manville is great as Margaret though.

akm, Saturday, 12 November 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

wtf was with the whole carriage riding with Natascha McElhone? I mean who would not enjoy that, but really, did that need to be a big part of the second episode?

akm, Saturday, 12 November 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

I had no idea he even did that as a hobby. I think the idea was to insinuate he had some kind of weirdly-too-close companionship with that woman. I agree though, it didnt need that overlong "hey lets refurbish this old thing and ride it aroun the grounds" montage.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 13 November 2022 00:02 (one year ago) link

BTW whoever was playing Cherie Blair was SO spot on, thought it was actually her for 1.5 seconds.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 13 November 2022 00:02 (one year ago) link

I had no idea he even did that as a hobby. I think the idea was to insinuate he had some kind of weirdly-too-close companionship with that woman.

tbh, I was more interested in this kind of esoteria than in the big sweep of The Divorce, which has been very well covered elsewhere already. The one thing I did like about the Charles/Diana/Camilla stuff (which I didn't pay a huge amount of attention to at the time) was that the infamous tampon phonecall was picked up by an amateur radio operator, and wasn't the result of a phone tap or deliberate listening device.

trishyb, Sunday, 13 November 2022 09:59 (one year ago) link

i don't even understand how that was technically possible

akm, Sunday, 13 November 2022 15:21 (one year ago) link

Me neither, and maybe it's nonsense. When I googled it just now there's a lot of "believed to have been" and "allegedly", so maybe it's all crap, but that is the story everyone went with at the time.

trishyb, Monday, 14 November 2022 09:23 (one year ago) link

You used to be able to scan and hear mobile calls in the pre-digital signal era which was around that time. you had to have the right gear. my brother had an emergency services scanner and one xmas mid 90s i do recall listening in on calls.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 14 November 2022 11:11 (one year ago) link

Got to agree, this series just seemed very weak and too happy to give excess time to stories covered better elsewhere.

It seemed remarkably keen to subvert the version of pretty much every character from that previously established too:

The Queen has become some sort of Victorian Values dinosaur, inflexible to change and utterly out of touch with reality
Charles is some Machiavellian genius playing 4d chess to make his future cushy
Diana is a vacuous Sloane interested only in clothes (ok this may well be accurate but they made her far more sympathetic before)
Ann has become a double agent
Andrew is an arse (see Diana comment)

Given this went up to 1997, amazed to see what a free ride al-Fayed got considering by then there had been Cash For Questions, the Johnathon Aitken/Saudi scandal and the ITV documentary about his sexual harassment of staff at Harrods. Will be interesting to see how they deal with his friendship with Michael Jackson, if they bother (although surely he'll appear given the scale of Dodi Death Conspiracy from him.

The final series is going to be bizarre. Presumably episode 1 is the death of Diana (given it's 6 weeks after the end of S5). Golden Jubilee will probably get an episode to itself. Margaret and the Queen Mother die only 7 or so weeks apart so maybe they squash them into one episode? Charles & Camilla's marriage as one? Diamond jubilee and the start of withdrawal from duties. Lockdown and death of Philip. Platty Joobs and her death.

That only leaves 3 episodes for other threads. India tour in 97 leading into Millennium might be a good idea for ep2, maybe with devolution in the middle (things pull apart then hope brings together). Dislike of Blair/NI peace accord could be a politics one.

Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

Probably going to uh "touch on" the sweatless nonce too, surely?

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link

Imelda Staunton's presence just completely changes the character of this for me. Can't shake the Umbrage image, which means that the monarchy is the Ministry of Magic, the palace is Hogwarts, Blair is Snape, etc. There is no way out from that mental spiral for me so I can't bear to watch.

Last season's casting was generally better, although I will admit I am looking forward to some prime Olivia Williams content - she is always a welcome presence on my glowing rectangles

iliac crestfallen (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

Diamond jubilee and the start of withdrawal from duties. Lockdown and death of Philip. Platty Joobs and her death.

I'd be amazed if they go that far. If it was me I'd end it with her jumping out of a plane with James Bond.

trishyb, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link

I'd say you'd probably be right if the whole thing was mapped out in advance but to not include the final 10 years, and since the real world provided an actual conclusion to the series before filming started, it would seem far more sensible to end in 2022.

Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

Morgan has said in the past he doesn't plan to tackle recent years, like the Harry/Meghan stuff, as the story isn't over. Don't know if the queen's death changes anything

Vinnie, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 08:45 (one year ago) link

Also thought this season was weaker, a lot of boring episodes, though there's been 1-2 episodes each season I haven't really liked. Liked Debicki's Diana though

Vinnie, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 10:31 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

spoilers* but GHOST DIANA klaxon!!!¡¡¡!!! 📣💥🔊

*(i haven't been watching recent seasons, i gleaned this from twitter)

mark s, Sunday, 19 November 2023 10:54 (five months ago) link

It seems to have united the critics….

https://i.imgur.com/2GcweDg.jpg

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Sunday, 19 November 2023 13:12 (five months ago) link

To be fair, her nickname had an obvious homophone. That's some pretty heavy-handed foreshadowing; it bespeaks laziness in the writers' room.

Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 19 November 2023 16:01 (five months ago) link

It's pretty poor but not noticeably worse than any of the other series after the first two or three (gut says it's fine through to the 60s but takes a downturn pretty much as soon as the 70s hit).

Then again, it's still country miles better than the Spencer film, and Kristen Stewart got all kinds of awards nominations for that. That also featured royal ghosts lecturing people as a key plot point.

Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Sunday, 19 November 2023 16:32 (five months ago) link

I've already said this, but the name "Fflyn" was new to me. I have been helpfully educated on the linguistic rationale (hat tip to James Redd) but I am still processing that info.

Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 19 November 2023 17:02 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

i hadn’t caught up on s5 & s6 until now

halfway thru s5
there is def something a bit boring about this season i agree

i think staunton is great as the Queen but i am struggling to get with McNulty as Charles, he’s not nearly pompous & insecure enough, too confident

debicki is good as diana but i ageee w comments upthread that its mostly mannerisms & a bit one-note

i really love lesley manville as margaret, and casting Timothy Dalton as Group Captain Wotsisface in s5e4 was such a lovely touch

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 21 January 2024 02:41 (two months ago) link

Mohamed al-Fayed's episode was maybe the best episode of S5, which is kind of indicative of the existential crisis this show had in its last two seasons. the writers' choices of focus were probably for the better, because I'm not sure I enjoyed any episode focused on the Queen in S5 or S6

Vinnie, Sunday, 21 January 2024 14:18 (two months ago) link

yeah agree i liked that one a lot
did the thing imo crown does best, weaving two time periods together

idk what it is about s5 but i’m honestly so bored by their dramatization of the diana of it all at this point
like she’d literally tell a teatowel how miserable she is and wants a divorce then next thing moping to her therapist like oh the queens dismissal was “so final”
like omg stfuuuuuup go wear a fucking bikini and be divorced PLEASE

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 January 2024 03:39 (two months ago) link

If she hadnt died she'd have broken up with Dodi like a week later whats a bet.

By the time it got to the Wills and Harry stuff I completely lost interest.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 22 January 2024 05:19 (two months ago) link

lol yeah probably.

i just finished s5, so now i begin the long march thru s6

sidebar: queen now 100% reminding me pf my dear departed nan, who had almost the same hairdo, wore the same wool skirts & cardigans every day of her life, never saw her in a single pair of trousers

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 January 2024 05:29 (two months ago) link


did the thing imo crown does best, weaving two time periods together

For me the other thing The Crown does best is telling me things about British history, and specifically the monarchy, that I didn't already know. The only episode in the last two seasons that did that was the one about Mohamed al-Fayed.

trishyb, Monday, 22 January 2024 09:12 (two months ago) link

tired: queen as a child tricked* into a nazi salute
wired: queen as an old lady tricked into wearing nu-metal shorts

this gives me a handy bar for the remainder of this show to fall below, at last i can start watching s5 & then s6

*it's why she hates her uncle, bcz either it's a public shame (shows her as she isn't) or a public revelation (shows her as she actually is)**
**either way is an unwanted obstacle

mark s, Monday, 22 January 2024 10:56 (two months ago) link

yeah the second half of the final season was completely limp and pointless, but I think that may simply be because I remember all of it happening in real time

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 22 January 2024 15:35 (two months ago) link

yeah i think thats true also

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 January 2024 15:40 (two months ago) link

ok well into deathmarch to the end of s6

still such a boring slog
after everything they did w the first 4 seasons its like they were just, fuckit we’ve go nothing here’s diana staring up under her fringe for 20 hours

like no history detours really at all except the mohammed fayed ep in s5

the speculative fiction of dodi & diana’s final hours together was a bit much for me, i mean maybe that is what happened idk

i’m only on ep5 cannot even begin to imagine the depths of boredom yet to be excavated here weeeee zzzz

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 29 January 2024 02:23 (two months ago) link

The William & Catherine and William & Harry stuff is yes, even more boring. The Princess Margaret episode was good though.

nate woolls, Monday, 29 January 2024 02:55 (two months ago) link

good to know thx

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 29 January 2024 03:04 (two months ago) link

the speculative fiction of dodi & diana’s final hours together was a bit much for me, i mean maybe that is what happened idk

ya this was bad, also there's an entirely made up plotline about how Kate's mother basically engineered her daughter and William getting together from even before their time at St Andrews. i mean sure, this show is fictionalised, but that whole arc seemed unnecessarily mean-spirited

didn't even distract from how boring the whole season was, it was def a struggle to finish

Roz, Monday, 29 January 2024 08:05 (two months ago) link

yeah they really struggle to make the second half of S6 interesting. just little there work with, I suppose. I preferred the Diana episodes even if I knew a lot of the story

Vinnie, Monday, 29 January 2024 19:33 (two months ago) link

this back half feels so speculative as to beggar belief, like beyond fictionalizing and into “we have now decided to just invent new characters we are calling The Royals”

Charles going off into the scottish highlands to wail abt Dianas death seemed insanely fabulist, like ok what are we actually doing here

and ghost Dianas convo w the queen
lmao ok whut

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 29 January 2024 20:44 (two months ago) link

wait this sounds good tho, all historical reconstruction should include ghosts, cf hamlet etc

mark s, Monday, 29 January 2024 20:47 (two months ago) link

to affirm my claim i found a fine portrait of the real actual historical hamlet aka "amblett"

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/Amblett_Hamlet.jpg/800px-Amblett_Hamlet.jpg

mark s, Monday, 29 January 2024 20:50 (two months ago) link

FWIW the ghosts didn't bother me nearly as much as the boring shit

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 29 January 2024 22:34 (two months ago) link

true, the boring shit is definitely the worst aspect

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 29 January 2024 22:54 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

fiiiiiinallly finished this trudge through the treacle of s6

high point: really liked the episode about Margaret, thought it showed their relationship as sisters quite nicely. i didn’t know she had burned her feet, v awful

i liked all the scenes btw William & the Queen, they have good chemistry in their scenes together

camilla puffing on a cig while tending to the tomato plants was v good

harry’s nazi uniform moment lol ugh

the rest of it was decidedly boring/mid and i am glad its over

should have stopped at s4 tbh

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 February 2024 01:29 (two months ago) link

OH and the penitence prayer scene for Chuck & Camilla was pretty great imo

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 February 2024 01:38 (two months ago) link


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