Wow. Whoa. That is some group of people. Thousands. - US Election Day 2016

Wow!

glusa

there it is

I didn't get a sticker, but I voted. Not against Trump, but FOR Clinton. I think she'll be a very good President. (And no, I don't think Sanders would have been a good President, not at all. He'd have made Merkin Muffley look like Greg Stillson.) On the ground report: I've been going to the same polling place since 1996, and I've never had to wait more than 10 minutes to vote. I got there at 6:45 today, and was 20th in line. When I left the booth, it was 7:30, and there were at least 20 people behind me, and more coming in the doors. Way more women than men. I expect big numbers nationwide.

Good luck USA.

Voted, DONE.

Wait was about 30 minutes long, a lot more people at opening than back during the primaries.

Very quiet, respectful, orderly, though the poll workers were a bit confused about their internal process.

Shout out to the shivering poll monitor guy outside in a lawn chair who asked "everything go okay in there?" when I left.

Good luck USA.

I'm gonna estimate that there were maybe 30-50 people during the time that I was waiting and then voting.

Thank you, Creames Fartpoop, for starting this historic thread.

^

Creames Fartpoop is Markers, right?

Voted last Tuesday, in a very red parish of a very red state.

Please save us white males from ourselves, America.

can someone provide a local anecdote that confirms trump won't win?

I am old enough just about to remember the time an ILX poster actually said 'Good luck USA' and was lambasted for it.

good luck usa: the week 10 lou1s j4gg3r tribute thread

Funnily enough ilxor Norman Phay said it elsewhere online today but I'm not sure whether it was ironic; probably not in fact.

My polling place in a small town (< 2,000 people) was packed at 7am and I had to wait 15 minutes or so.

Good morning!

is Reagan dead yet?

I'm not sure its been mentioned, but Google Trends Electionland is doing a great public service offering a real-time map of searches on long wait times, provisional ballots, and voter intimidation.

latest podcast is 50 minutes of punk rock songs about Reagan to soundtrack the day
http://www.quartzcity.net/2016/11/08/episode-015-punk-rock-reagan/

"I got there at 6:45 today, and was 20th in line. When I left the booth, it was 7:30"

jesus christ how did u guys ever conquer the world

I won't pretend that this is in any way decisive (given that I live in a very blue city in a blue state) but I voted last night and waited in line for over an hour to do so. I've previously voted exclusively on election day and never had to wait more than a few minutes. Huge minority representation. Based on my scientific calculations, Trump is toast.

jesus christ how did u guys ever conquer the world

― the kids are alt right (darraghmac), dinsdag 8 november 2016 14:22 (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

I keep being amazed about these lines, too. Never once in my live have had to wait longer than a couple of mins to vote.

Presenting retired Minneapolis anchorman Don Shelby, hero:

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I remember it too pinefox - my comment was an homage to Louis's post.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwvjIXJXcAA4P6c.jpg

Glad this election finally solved the Maddie case tbh

xpost addendum to my post

There were like a couple hundred people in line, if I had to estimate, btw. Line snaking up and down every hall of this huge building. Real positive vibe, no openly aggrieved faces.

In my megablue polling place there were 100 or so people ahead of me at 6:30 this morning. Took me about half an hour. Many people brought kids, esp. daughters, which is always nice to see.

I didn't get a sticker, but I voted. Not against Trump, but FOR Clinton. I think she'll be a very good President.

ditto. after watching the Frontline doc and reading up on her record I have a hard time thinking of anyone living who is MORE qualified for the job right now

of course if "fuck Donald Trump forever" was on the ballot, I'd vote that too.

Despite my continued reservations about Clinton, I have to admit that it felt good to realize last night that I had the opportunity to vote for the first black president and the first female president. And then when Michelle's ready, I'll get to vote for the first black female president.

Trump says Brady voted for him; wife Gisele says they won't vote for Trump

And then when Michelle's Paris Strother's ready, I'll get to vote for the first black female president.

Sucks this story came down so late but I really hope the NFL ppl grill Belichick about whether he really wrote that letter.

I'm glad to have voted for Hillary for several reasons, but thinking about it this morning realized that my enthusiasm - the sense of moment/excitement - surrounding casting these ballots has diminished over time. Meaning: what did I feel while in the voting line/booth?

Kerry 2004 - intense, frightened, felt like my ballot was a weapon
Obama 2008 - WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Sanders, April 2016 - "Even if he doesn't become the nominee, this means something, and even symbolically may be the most important vote I cast"
Clinton, today - "I feel like I'm withdrawing money from an ATM"

Some of this may be age, general exhaustion, jadedness, and how wearying this campaign season has been.

Make no mistake - I want Clinton to win, and I want all of us to keep her on the left-leaning straight and narrow (as much as is possible). But today feels like Christmas usually does: so much build up, and it felt kinda empty.

In my head, 'Creames' is pronounced 'kray-AH-mus' can anyone confirm or correct?

Despite my continued reservations about Clinton, I have to admit that it felt good to realize last night that I had the opportunity to vote for the first black president and the first female president.

My 8-year-old son was chanting "Hillary! Hillary!" in the back seat on the way to school this morning. It's something to think that the only presidents he will know from the ages of birth to 16 may be Obama and Hillary.

Voted by mail weeks ago. I don't understand why everyone doesn't do it. Unless you just like the tradition of voting on Election Day.

dowd: yes - what year was it? 2004?

serious question, when does Trump get his Twitter account back?

Security guy at my polling place, a public elementary school in south Williamsburg Brooklyn: "I ain't seen this many people since they were giving away cheese!"

yeah so far turnout looks to be absolutely massive so....GG Republicans??

good luck usa

"I ain't seen this many people since they were giving away cheese!"

haha

I've never seen my polling place so busy before! Lines weren't out the door or anything but the school gym was full of ppl lined up to sign the book and get their ballots. Luckily my name + district fell into a less busy line so I was done fast but ppl were waiting 30-45 mins afaict. I shudder to think what it will look like at 7-8pm.

good luck usa

Good luck, Planet Earth.

pronounced 'oosa'

i want to post an encouraging solidarity gif of gremlins trashing clamp tower but it's after midnight

glpe

godspeed Lou, pink emperor.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bbF1IwgFLEA/maxresdefault.jpg

In Sydney Hillary's already the new president!

Lmao

Back around 9/11-mania, there was some privileged San Fran fancy pants writer pushing back against all the abject and ugly hyper-patriotism - I think this was in Salon or Slate? Anyway, she complained that people had gone so far as to spray paint "USA" on the sidewalk. The gall, right? Except the "USA" stood for "underground service alert," and it was there to warn people excavating of buried electric/gas lines and other important cables.

anyone voting for Stein was not voting for Clinton ever ever ever

stop w/ the goddamn deranged scapegoating and get on the bus

My nephew who has been a Stein booster since after the primaries voted for Clinton, Morbs, because he saw all the Trumpkins at the polls and wasn't going to throw his vote away. That's right, a 27 year old from the sticks of Ohio is more mature than you

i vote in NY. my vote is meaningless (and it wasn't for Stein)

glad your racist Indians lost tho

to the Cubs, owned by a Trump supporter...

And the personal financier of Scott walker

just glad we can get back to making these threads about morbs

Cubs obv lesser evil, but i'm mature

are you mature enough to vote Hillary tho?

Okay yeah, so, it's important to recognize that it is not unprecedented to have Republicans in both houses, with a dipshit Republican president rubber-stamping things, and the Bush era WAS awful and 2004 WAS until yesterday the worst post-election morning of my lifetime. The big difference to me is the emergence of the Tea Party/Freedom Caucus types during the Obama administration. All their feuding with Boehner/Ryan goes away without a Democratic president they're trying to strategize around, and you're left with a huge swath of dipshit Republicans for roll-call votes, and leadership cadres that are now MUCH further right than they were in the Clinton and W eras. It's going to be rubber-stamping of absolutely demonic shit, the kind of draconian nightmare Republican government we've all been fearing for a long time unless some of them break ranks (doubtful) or that trying to gut Social Security along with the rest of the federal government just takes so long that a really well-organized opposition can make gains back in the midterms (yeah right).

And in the meantime, Trump is following Reagan in appointing to his cabinet and all the executive agencies people who are either his corrupt and incompetent old real estate crony friends, or right-wing true believers who are also sycophants good at making him feel smart, and whose main goal in running these agencies is to make them nonfunctional. That's terrifying whether it's an Anne Gorsuch type at the EPA in the face of climate-change disaster, or fucking Rudy Giuliani controlling the Justice Department and rolling back even the baby steps towards investigating police departments and trying to prosecute brutality cases. And a million other things.

I've said above, I worry that Rudy Guiliani is not the problem, Steve Bannon is. Big pendulum swings in politicians suck, but this is the rise of /pol/.

I guess the Consumer Protection Bureau is probably dead now too, right?

Glad morbs is back, kinda unnerved that shakey hasn't shown up since Wednesday night (called us a bunch of nervous nellies)

Was that his last post? I think he said that right after I emotionally announced I was jumping off the thread (to go panic in bed with the pillow over my head). Also not sure why Ned suddenly stopped posting about the election after the 4th.

Ned's taking a break

It seemed premature. The only thing that lined up with that date was the disappointment of no oppo from Rick and the others who'd been teasing it.

that comes across as very judgmental FYI, sometimes people need a break for their own sanity

how has wilson reacted to all this shit btw

why are we still posting here

Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

that comes across as very judgmental FYI, sometimes people need a break for their own sanity

― sleeve, Thursday, November 10, 2016 12:25 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was only speculating- he can take a break whenever and for whatever reason he wants. I was just curious if there was a direct reason like that.

gotcha, sorry if that seemed like I was jumping on you.

Not at all! I definitely don't want to come across as judgmental.

I was taking great comfort in Ned's early voting updates back when there was a confident glimmer of hope in the world.

Shakey is waiting until everyone has forgotten just how full of shit he was - he'll be back with new certainties soon I'm sure.

i don't blame shakey for his confidence in "the process", the signs pointing to what happened were there but they seemed to be unlikely scenarios.

I would imagine being that confident going in and then being wrong is kind of world shattering especially when it results in a Trump presidency. It's hard enough to deal with the reality of the outcome alone.

I would imagine being that confident going in and then being wrong is kind of world shattering especially when it results in a Trump presidency. It's hard enough to deal with the reality of the outcome alone.

― Evan, Thursday, November 10, 2016 12:55 PM (fourteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea i was feeling fairly confident until prob about 10:30 or 11pm tuesday night. even as big states we're being called for trump i was still thinking "clinton doesn't need that state, or that state, or that state" until there were few states left to make a difference.

kind of ironic how he told me i lived in a "strange bubble"

anyway no hard feelings

Come back shakes we need your thoughts on this new map of hell

the only ILX prognosticator i'll trust on anything going forward is Snrub on the Cavs.

In Wisconsin, Clinton lost by about 1% of the vote – but if Stein’s supporters had voted Democratic, Trump would have lost the state.

In Michigan, Clinton appears to be on track to lose by about 0.3% of the vote – but if half of Stein’s supporters had voted Democratic, Trump would have lost the state.

It always feels wrong and unfair to me when people pin responsibility on a small minority group of third-party voters who chose to vote their conscience, given that half the electorate actually cast a vote in favour of Trump. It is the latter who are at fault imo.

OTM

it was true in 2000 and it is true now

yes looks like ignoring the wishes of third party voters is a great way to lose elections

Adam if I say that you are 100% right that liberal moderate Dems made a terrible mistake ignoring the wishes of the left and they are responsible for these circumstances and that you knew this all along and warned us and we should've listened -- will you stop making the same argument over and over again? Like is it possible you are just saying it because you feel no one has heard you yet? I hear you. I understand your position. You have been heard. Let's move onto something new.

Ah c'mon Adam, I with you on some aspects of this - there are absolutely untapped voters out there not served or inspired by what the Dems have been selling. But do we think Clinton would have won big by adopting Stein's platform? Or even that Stein's voters would have not still voted for Stein?

* I'm

a million little things all swung the election because the election's margin was so slim. enthusiasm, comey, wikileaks etc.

it's unfair to pin full responsibility on them, but it's not unfair to call these people idiots. presumably they are distraught about the results of this election yet they weren't willing to do the smallest thing - fill in a different bubble on a sheet - to help prevent those results.

who knows though, some of them (e.g. morbs) might be basically happy about the results. I imagine some people voting 3rd party in a swing state after what happened in 2000 might just be genuinely crazy / out of reach.

^grim liar

What ifs need to be understood in full context; you can't just change one variable and assume all others remain constant.

If Clinton's messaging had gone full-bore after Stein voters, or Sanders diehards, or unionized auto-workers, or gypsum distributors, or left-handed fishermen, or transgender circus performers, or dental hygienists (or whatever), then you're assuming that those rhetorical moves would not have lost her any nervous suburban soccer moms (or whatever).

Adam if I say that you are 100% right that liberal moderate Dems made a terrible mistake ignoring the wishes of the left and they are responsible for these circumstances and that you knew this all along and warned us and we should've listened -- will you stop making the same argument over and over again? Like is it possible you are just saying it because you feel no one has heard you yet? I hear you. I understand your position. You have been heard. Let's move onto something new.

― Mordy, Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:14 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maybe everyone else howling about stein could move onto something new too? or is this only a one way standard

will everyone who thinks that I, a cancer patient who may become unemployed by spring, am happy about Trump's election please chime in?

good. i thought not. move on.

I didn't vote for Jill Stein because she's a total fucking idiot.

it's not unfair to call these people idiots

call them whatever you want. but calling them idiots and then expecting them to vote for your candidate is a pretty idiot move.

thing that bugs me about stein and johnson votes (as compared to bernie ppl) is like both those candidates are fucking SHITHEADS and seem like they would have been disasters, whereas bernie was a longstanding senator, had a progressive but reasonable policy platform, understood how washington worked, experience, yadda yadda yadda

stein is like one annoying daycare mom who's always sending out group emails and whose kid has a made-up peanut allergy

johnson seemed like there was genuinely something wrong with him

i just didn't understand the "i supported bernie in the primary now i'm switching to stein", like they weren't comparable to me....like "oh kanye retired guess i'll listen to lil' dickey instead"

maybe everyone else howling about stein could move onto something new too? or is this only a one way standard

yes i think a. this is the fault of stein voters and b. this is the fault of ppl who didn't reach out to stein voters, are both pretty valueless counterfactuals

all that reaching out to #nevertrump republicans seemed to have been an abject failure. romney's voters en masse voted for trump

call them whatever you want. but calling them idiots and then expecting them to vote for your candidate is a pretty idiot move.

If you do anything at all in life based on what complete strangers on the internet call you, you may, in fact, be an idiot.

romney's voters en masse voted for trump

That takes me back to when McCain/Palin supporters thought that "PUMAs" (anti-Obama Hillary supporters) would vote with them.

stein is like one annoying daycare mom who's always sending out group emails and whose kid has a made-up peanut allergy

loves the Indigo Girls

can we close this thread? There are three live.