Do words mean things

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where are we at with this, in 2016

Poll Results

OptionVotes
yes 22
no 16
maybe 14


slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Monday, 28 November 2016 02:10 (seven years ago) link

This inflation of the sign “language” is the inflation of the sign itself, absolute inflation, inflation itself.

Treeship, Monday, 28 November 2016 02:16 (seven years ago) link

sorta

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 28 November 2016 02:19 (seven years ago) link

Silby,, what's the context?

calstars, Monday, 28 November 2016 02:42 (seven years ago) link

Quite an open ended question otherwise

calstars, Monday, 28 November 2016 02:42 (seven years ago) link

I mean, like, in general, Trump, generational divide, twitter, cat memes, ilxor, Wittgenstein, words have had better days, people believed in them once, now it seems like maybe they're irretrievably broken, and maybe it's for the better, so backing up, do words mean things, right now, do they succeed at meaning

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Monday, 28 November 2016 02:44 (seven years ago) link

May I suggest that trump specific rants be confined to the myriad of existing trump related threads on ilx.

That said, yes of course words have weight and meaning.

calstars, Monday, 28 November 2016 02:49 (seven years ago) link

how do you know?

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Monday, 28 November 2016 03:03 (seven years ago) link

wittgenstein believes in words you choad

j., Monday, 28 November 2016 03:11 (seven years ago) link

I mean yeah I haven't finished the book yet

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Monday, 28 November 2016 03:12 (seven years ago) link

listen I regret this thread, I should get back on Twitter

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Monday, 28 November 2016 03:14 (seven years ago) link

Big twist: the duck was the rabbit all along

jmm, Monday, 28 November 2016 03:18 (seven years ago) link

wait

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Monday, 28 November 2016 03:19 (seven years ago) link

fuck

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Monday, 28 November 2016 03:19 (seven years ago) link

The red bicycle in this furniture weirds me out

El Tomboto, Monday, 28 November 2016 03:43 (seven years ago) link

http://s7d4.scene7.com/is/image/roomandboard/woodwind_638869_08e1

El Tomboto, Monday, 28 November 2016 03:43 (seven years ago) link

MUV MAN ACTIVE SIT STAND

http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/n-nr1m3w/gfm2h9h/product_images/theme_images/carousel_muvman_wording.jpg

El Tomboto, Monday, 28 November 2016 03:45 (seven years ago) link

Here's a Swopper Saddle auditioning for the role of j.

http://i.imgur.com/OfifrQf.png

El Tomboto, Monday, 28 November 2016 03:58 (seven years ago) link

poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world

Treeship, Monday, 28 November 2016 03:58 (seven years ago) link

are you sure you're not thinking of choads

j., Monday, 28 November 2016 04:02 (seven years ago) link

choads are always acknowledged as such, if not in their own time

Treeship, Monday, 28 November 2016 04:03 (seven years ago) link

i actually don't believe that. or the derrida quote i posted or the shelley one.

Treeship, Monday, 28 November 2016 04:04 (seven years ago) link

seems to me, if there's a piece of furniture out there that would know about choads, it would be a Swopper Saddle

El Tomboto, Monday, 28 November 2016 04:05 (seven years ago) link

Are we sure it's not spelled chode?

El Tomboto, Monday, 28 November 2016 04:05 (seven years ago) link

don't own a height? adjustable desk, without one!

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Monday, 28 November 2016 04:07 (seven years ago) link

"things"... plural

flappy bird, Monday, 28 November 2016 05:18 (seven years ago) link

Whereas in the premodern era words were the thing and the word lamppost was a lamppost and the modernists broke that things apart by introducing subjectivity such that my lamppost wasn't your lamppost but they were both in some sense lampposts and then because of Hitler linguists got disenchanted. and postwar lamppost theorists said no a lamppost can be an idea of a lamppost or a perversion or mermutation of a lambroast, and then the seventies came along and a lamppost was kissin' cousins to a lamprey and a lamprey was a fish and therefore taxonomically a lamppost is a kind of fish QED and semantic logic was faulty and succeptible to deliberate manipulation, and then there was music television and aesthetic appropriation of sincerity and we're all jaded as fuck and sincerity is a dumb game anyway and here comes the internet and what is a troll but a dumb fucking lamppost but when the trolls take over aren't we the trolling lamp posts?

rb (soda), Monday, 28 November 2016 05:32 (seven years ago) link

And I just sharted grellow in my jorts.

rb (soda), Monday, 28 November 2016 05:33 (seven years ago) link

The formulation of the poll question lacks all nuance, subtlety and complexity, whereas the relationship between words and meanings is replete with all three. Given the choice of either accepting this wretched formulation without reservation. rejecting it out of hand, or straddling the fence to no purpose at all, I find I must reject it as pitifully inadequate to the job it has been tasked to do.

Therefore, no.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 28 November 2016 05:40 (seven years ago) link

soda otm

identity politics rooted in tolkienism (darraghmac), Monday, 28 November 2016 07:16 (seven years ago) link

paradise
is exactly like
where you are right now
only much
much
better

difficult listening hour, Monday, 28 November 2016 07:25 (seven years ago) link

Yes. The real question is do things mean things.

chap, Monday, 28 November 2016 11:06 (seven years ago) link

what does a lonely guy think about when he thinks about things?

ogmor, Monday, 28 November 2016 11:13 (seven years ago) link

"What is, like, frustration? Or what is anger or love? When I say "love," the sound comes out of my mouth and it hits the other person's ear, travels through this Byzantine conduit in their brain, you know, through their memories of love or lack of love, and they register what I'm saying and they say yes, they understand. But how do I know they understand? Because words are inert. They're just symbols. They're dead, you know? And so much of our experience is intangible. So much of what we perceive cannot be expressed. It's unspeakable. And yet, you know, when we communicate with one another, and we feel that we've connected, and we think that we're understood, I think we have a feeling of almost spiritual communion. And that feeling might be transient, but I think it's what we live for". - Waking Life

Ross, Monday, 28 November 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link

opening chord to purple rain

identity politics rooted in tolkienism (darraghmac), Monday, 28 November 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 23 December 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

this was a dumb poll, I was probably annoyed at the time

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Friday, 23 December 2016 00:46 (seven years ago) link

poets polls are the unacknowledged legislators of the world

ftfy

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 23 December 2016 00:55 (seven years ago) link

Pretty sure we're all immune to those around here

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 23 December 2016 02:02 (seven years ago) link

Did i write stuff about derrida on this thread, flex my muscles/make everyone swoon? I forget

Treeship, Friday, 23 December 2016 06:04 (seven years ago) link

i'm just here for the nudes

Neanderthal, Friday, 23 December 2016 06:14 (seven years ago) link

do pictures mean things?

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 23 December 2016 06:16 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SbUC-UaAxE

j., Friday, 23 December 2016 07:13 (seven years ago) link

I was reading RazorCake magazine #93 earlier this morning, and Todd Taylor wrote in the opening editorial, "To be happy, we need people to love, something to do, and something to look forward to. "

Those words meant something to me, and I'm sure they meant something to the writer, but any promise I make to do better doesn't matter. We are known by our deeds.

Zachary Taylor, Friday, 23 December 2016 07:16 (seven years ago) link

lots of ppl are known by their words or their looks

the house of the planter is known by the trees

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Friday, 23 December 2016 07:32 (seven years ago) link

SAW OFF THE BRANCH YOU'RE SITTING ON. VOTE NO.

jmm, Friday, 23 December 2016 13:56 (seven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 24 December 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link


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