ARRRRGGGHHH DAYLIGHT SAVINGS!!!!

I had never even considered that but it's a good point. I'm sure there is a ton of people who that really impacts. Weirdly I don't love long days - it throws me off so much. I don't like it being dark at 4 (or 3:30 here) but the sun going down around 6 is my sweet spot.

Crying about this is a crank opinion.

New board masthead.

99% of my life i am struggling to make myself go to bed at a reasonable hour, and by extension, get up on time

i am very annoyed that i am currently in one of the 1% phases where i pass out super early and wake up inexplicably long before my alarm, right as we enter the "free hour of sleep" weekend

For me this signals the end of the “sit outside at the bar after 5” period and sends me inside

admit that you don't care about the increased death rate

I don't care about the increased death rate. I want to get off work in the winter and still have an hour or so of sunlight left. DGAF about summer because I'll be inside 24/7 regardless. Bring on DST 365!

honestly I didn’t expect to open the thread and get hit with “DST body count” but let sleeve cook

ahhh

Good morning!

Running a marathon this morning. I did not hate the extra hour of sleep.

Gonna be a long ass Sunday for sure

for some reason I didn’t put two and two together with the thread being bumped and was irritated when I woke up early this morning. But it turns out I did not technically wake up early

cats still refuse to acknowledge clocks, afaict

Is anyone reporting on what this year’s death toll was?

Living in the US now while still administrating a business in the UK, which put its own clocks back last week (?), and now I don't know what is what or where I am, possibly due to having to wake up at 4am every day for the past 6 months.

Back to bed I think.

In the UK the clocks went back a week ago FYI.

(Weirdly I ready your post as "next week" and thought I'd help).

My wife texted me last Monday to say "I had no idea the clocks went back yesterday!" - all her clocks had re-set automatically and she'd just snaffled the extra hour asleep: perfect.

anyone defending DST will immediately be FPd, just be honest and admit that you don't care about the increased death rate

― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 3 November 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Don't you get enough attention at home or something?

Today has already lasted a year

Re: deaths.

Almost no one dies during the skipped hour in the spring, though. Statistically, that's the safest hour of the year!

In the UK the clocks went back a week ago FYI.

That descending riff would have so much more bite on a 6 ITS 434

And if I played guitar, I'd be Jimmy Page
Daylight savings time makes me rage

Lol

5pm and it dark. bad

Arizona is ahead of the game here

5pm and it dark. bad

― ivy., Sunday, November 5, 2023

the offset is having light in the winter before 7:00 in the morning, which is fine by me

daylight savings in the summer means having more light in the evening with the longer days rather than the morning. I have an east-facing bedroom and don't want to wake up to sunlight at 5 am

the switch between daylight savings and standard time seems completely logical to me

Arizona doesn't have daylight savings because it is scorching hot there in the summer

the offset is having light in the winter before 7:00 in the morning, which is fine by me

Which I don't get. Sunrise tomorrow will be roughly 7:30, by which point I'll already have been up for an hour; sunset will be roughly 5:30, and I go to sleep between 10:30 and 11. By the time December rolls around I'll be lucky to get eight hours of daylight in a 24-hour span.

With the time change, sunrise tomorrow will come at 6:40 am, at least where I live. I'm a morning person, but I don't want first sunlight to come after 7:30 am or before 5:00 am. The time change corrects for that

“It gets late so early now”

Calstars Berra

It's always made me angry, since i was a lil kid, that the priority was for the drudgery of commuting to school or work to be sunlit, at the expense of having a measly hour for recreation afterwards. I still reflexively see it as a form of capitalist oppression even though i know it's a little more complex- that sharply delineated "recreation time" only exists in opposition to time devoted to capitalist production, that one of the arguments being advanced to make DST permanent is that it boosts spending. i mean unless you are one of those freaks who gets up at 6am and goes for a run standard time is awfully dreary.

5pm and it dark. bad
― ivy., Sunday, November 5, 2023

It's always made me angry, since i was a lil kid, that the priority was for the drudgery of commuting to school or work to be sunlit, at the expense of having a measly hour for recreation afterwards.
― Deflatormouse, Monday, November 6, 2023

these are arguments in favor of permanent daylight savings, not ARRRRGGGHHH DAYLIGHT SAVINGS!!!!, the subject of this thread, which so many people seem to want to get rid of

I would be happy with permanent daylight savings. I would just have to close my shades against the sun in early morning hours in the summer.

But is the time change that onerous? Your clocks mostly reset themselves, and an hour difference doesn’t seem like that much

Let’s pick this discussion up in about 4 months

it's not that big of a deal

yeah I'm used to it and I guess I like the novelty that comes in the spring

Right now I feel slightly more energized. But we'll see how long that lasts.

this is the kind of thing i usually just ignore but it's kinda funny in this case

these are arguments in favor of permanent daylight savings, not ARRRRGGGHHH DAYLIGHT SAVINGS!!!!

i realize that.

I would be happy with permanent daylight savings. I would just have to close my shades against the sun in early morning hours in the summer.

...but you are anticipating permanent standard time here, not permanent DST :)

i mean even on DST it gets light out at 5am here in june, you probably need to close your shades either way?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/interactive/2022/permanent-standard-time-body-health-benefits/

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Your body doesn't know Daylight Time from Standard Time. It just knows when its rhythm has been kicked to the curb. What it likes is the "permanent" part, not which clock setting we go with.

oh my body knows

it knows summer from winter, daytime from night, and has a good glimmer of how long 24 hours is. the rest of it is your brain talking.

The only way to end this is the Solomonic solution: spring 30 minutes ahead and leave it there forever.

We will never reconcile the permanent DST crowd with the permanent ST crowd.

Ditto the clock-change fans and the clock-change haters.

Hence my solution: shift half an hour, and never shift again.

An overlooked factor in all this chatter is that no matter which setting we are using, sunrise and sunset times are nearly an hour different from one side of a time zone to the other just because it takes the sun roughly an hour to traverse a zone.

well then we should make time zones horizontal

sexy

530 still feels like 930 suppp

"The only way to end this is the Solomonic solution: spring 30 minutes ahead and leave it there forever. "

There are those crazy time zones that have the 30 minute difference like in New Delhi.

An overlooked factor in all this chatter is that no matter which setting we are using, sunrise and sunset times are nearly an hour different from one side of a time zone to the other just because it takes the sun roughly an hour to traverse a zone.

It also often takes way more than an hour to drive (or even fly) from one time zone to another. We're being cheated.