a: it's sort of based on the foxy knoxy case b: but it's set in fancy fashionable london, with lots of lovely shots of places i know well (probably this is what's keeping me watching) c: it stars anthony head as an american and BILLY ZANE, still reliably the worst big-name actor working anywhere d: BZ plays a hard-ass lawyer with a shaven head and a variety of bad hats e: interior mise-en-scene is hypnotic btw -- none of it looks like *any* bit of london i was ever in, just amazing places, like shoots from HIGH-END INTERIOR DECORATOR MAGAZINE f: there is a northern irish dimension and the "for centuries you have been oppressing us" card has already been played) (not an unreasonable card to play but i seriously doubt it is going to play out insightfullyg: the police scenes are amazingly terrible (including the acting), full of crypto-procedural material in which normal procedure (suspect won't talk w/o lawyer present) is received as if it's startling information -- the hard-ass ladycop heading the investigation looks like a model, implausibly young, can't act (not alone in the last) h: every ep so far has ended with a return to an EYES WIDE SHUT-style orgy at a sex club (the relevance of this not entirely clear)
― mark s, Thursday, 27 April 2017 22:32 (six years ago) link
it is very bad indeed so far (2 eps) but also compulsive viewing
― mark s, Thursday, 27 April 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link
a: it's sort of based on the foxy knoxy case
at this point i was in
b: but it's set in fancy fashionable london, with lots of lovely shots of places i know well (probably this is what's keeping me watching)c: it stars anthony head as an american and
at this point, i still was
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 28 April 2017 10:18 (six years ago) link
Billy Zane has been so terrible for so long why has he not been paid to stop
― gimmesomehawnz (Jon not Jon), Friday, 28 April 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link
BITCOIN KLAXON
zane thinks bitcoin isn't safe
― mark s, Friday, 28 April 2017 21:27 (six years ago) link
"unless this is defcon five" -- this is lowest state of emergency, aka normality, zane probably means "defcon one"
― mark s, Friday, 28 April 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link
ep 3 has definitely ramped up the idiotic nonsense if anyone apart from me is watching this
― mark s, Friday, 28 April 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link
tremendously, the slightly fey bad actor connected to the eyes-wide-shut orgies is currently being referred to by everyone as "your royal highness"
you have only yourself to blame if you are missing this, billy zane or no billy zane
― mark s, Friday, 28 April 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link
the question "how would this wanted person" know where this cop (or suspect) lives (or is hospitalised) is not a question the makes of GUILT think needs answering
it arises three times in this episode alone
― mark s, Friday, 28 April 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link
I'd like to watch vicariously via this thread.
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Sunday, 30 April 2017 22:07 (six years ago) link
that can be arranged
― mark s, Sunday, 30 April 2017 22:17 (six years ago) link
(tho not tonight, still recovering from the final ep of LINE OF DUTY)
― mark s, Sunday, 30 April 2017 22:27 (six years ago) link
e4: hard-ass loss ladycopper wants to bonk her underling in the evidence room
― mark s, Monday, 1 May 2017 14:43 (six years ago) link
she's called gwendolyn btw
― mark s, Monday, 1 May 2017 14:44 (six years ago) link
i mean boss ladycopper
foxyknoxy's boyf luke is a "brilliant artist" (acc.FK) -- we haven't seen any of the art yet, looking forward to that
the royal mentioned upthread is the prince of wales apparently, head still spinning a bit at this (he's in his twenties)
― mark s, Monday, 1 May 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link
middle-aged cockney black woman obsessed w/jubilee memoribilia
― mark s, Monday, 1 May 2017 14:50 (six years ago) link
the art boyf is called luc, not luke: luc pascal
his art is kind of bad but not delightfully so :(
― mark s, Monday, 1 May 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link
bosslady cop is actually the crown prosecutor, bafflingly enough
(don't think the writers know much or care how investigations work in the uk)
― mark s, Monday, 1 May 2017 15:10 (six years ago) link
recap ep 4:
suspects: foxyknoxy = grace attwood, she is suspected of killing her flatmate and bestie molly (played by daisy head, tony head's daughtertony head plays her stepdad (with american accent): there is something dodgy going on here, he probably had an affair with molly molly's brother is making a LOT of the fact that he and molly are from belfast, tho it's quite unspecific (ie not clear if their catholic or protestant) grace's sister natalie is an american lawyer, feuding somewhat with BILLY ZANE (who was anthony head's choice to represent grace, as she doesn't trust stepdad's motives) the third flatmate is roz -- fancy club DJ, black, lesbian, (her gf is a reluctant high-end sexworker) who is UP TO SOMETHING, what not yet clear grace's bf is a french artist, luc: he has just been arrested in a sting, for giving some blow to a passerby grace's ex, a college professor who slept with all hsi female students, has been shot dead by his wife -- he may or may not still be a suspect re molly
BILLY ZANE is billy zane-- he's not a suspect, just a nuisance
coppers: gwendolyn the crown prosecutor, tho british, went to school in a fancy american school where her best friend was bullied and beaten to death by rich girls whose daddy's lawyers got them off -- she has it in for rich american girls w/lawyers as a result -- she also fancies the main (white) copper, alex, and just tried to seduce him in the evidence room before realising he is having an affair with natalie (gwendolyn is black: this may or may not be consequential) ds alex bruno: seems to be dodgy, cos connections with the prince of wales's heavy, is having an affair with grace's sister gwendolyn
eyes-wide-shut orgy narrative sub-branch:the prince of wales, prince theo, is a massive perve who likes orgies and 50-shades-type sex, features a lot but quite why is not yet clear ^^^this element admittedly does not have an equivalent in the foxy knoxy case afaicr
― mark s, Monday, 1 May 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link
ep 5 starts with a memory sequence of molly as a child wanting to a ballet dancer at the royal ballet: apparently in the 1920s judged by how she and her little brother are drressed, maybe this also explains why belfast is entirely fields and they are on a farm with chickens
― mark s, Monday, 1 May 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
pap-swarms not very well handled (they'd be bigger, for a start)
lovely use of odd london backstreets, different types of building right next to each other (london is the only winner so far in this farrago)
― mark s, Monday, 1 May 2017 16:12 (six years ago) link
molly's brother patrick nearly failed to get entry into the orgy club bcz he has a tattoo on his wrtist that demonstrates he's an ira sympathiser (so i guess that question did get cleared up) (he kidnapped an MP and forced him to bring him in as a guest)
alex bruno to natalie: "it's social media, they hate everybody"
― mark s, Monday, 1 May 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link
ok roz the dj also works at/helps runs the orgy club
― mark s, Monday, 1 May 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link
where prince theo is also conducting arms trade business over the phone while he waits to be serviced
― mark s, Monday, 1 May 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link
two new characters:
1: neville, molly's stalker from across the street, who is an amateur tailor and now arrested for molly's murder (also black: son of the jubliee collector mom mentioned above) 2: the super-sinister guy who runs the orgy club (patrick has stolen his little black book of clients)
― mark s, Monday, 1 May 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link
^^^club owner is called finch: he's roz's boss -- she thinks he killed molly (who worked at his club) but daren't say/do anything as he has the chief of police and "half the judges in the city" in his pocket
― mark s, Monday, 1 May 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link
omigod the prince theo narrative is basically an updated version of one of the jack the ripper theories :0
(and quite a lot of it is shot in or near whitechapel)
― mark s, Monday, 1 May 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
i: grace is now banged up, and being bullied by the other prisoners ii: the sisters' attempts to fit up fitch has failed
― mark s, Monday, 1 May 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
russian mobsters now involved also (via tony head)
― mark s, Monday, 1 May 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link
ep abt to start is called "eyes wide open"
― mark s, Monday, 1 May 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
bookmarked
― Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Monday, 1 May 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link
e9: "The Crown vs Attwood"
trial about to begin, hoping billy z will shine in the legal cut-and-trust
― mark s, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link
looking good: http://trackingboard1.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/billy-zane-barrister-wig-gif.gif
― mark s, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link
trial not going well for billy, surprised at every turn
― mark s, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link
witnesses being bumped offwitnesses not saying what was expected witnesses not being allowed to be called by the judge
even so the court scenes are so far quite boring
― mark s, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link
meanwhile patrick has rejoined the IRA and has a plan to take out a royal to right some ancient wrongs
he gets through the police cordon by appealing to a shared hatred for bus drivers
― mark s, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link
the prince theo story is in play
judge holds billy z in contempt (and jails him) for bringing it in evidence at all, which is not really how it works
― mark s, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link
the policeman who was sacked thinks that a body's dna is only preserved if it's wrapped in plastic
― mark s, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
even grace's cell is stylishly distressed and lit
― mark s, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link
the actor playing prince theo is (a) terrible, and (b) insufferable
theo's sidekick is getting a conscience re what he's been asked to do (or possibly taken it on himself to do)
― mark s, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link
lol grace has smiled a prison guard into helping her escape (i don't trust his motives)
― mark s, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link
e10 and last this series:
a confession (not going to tell you: spoilers)
― mark s, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
judge thinks defence council is responsible for delivering a prisoner from prison to court
― mark s, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link
lol well that was a travesty
YOU'LL HAVE TO WATCH IT YOURSELF TO FIND OUT WHY AND HOW
― mark s, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link
i can't wait to see this
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link
none of you sods watched this did you
― mark s, Sunday, 25 June 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link
who sleeps on a roof outside in london?? it could rain on you
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 1 July 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link
turns out that's not the worst of it
― mark s, Saturday, 1 July 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
"what eez it spécifiquement about my style of painting zat is bahzering you right now"
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 1 July 2017 22:11 (six years ago) link
his paintings not being hilariously terrible was a mild let-down
― mark s, Saturday, 1 July 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link
his hilariously terrible accent makes up for it!
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 1 July 2017 23:26 (six years ago) link