this shit is the hipster version of being a furry at this point
http://gothamist.com/2017/05/17/twin_peaks_night.php#photo-1
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 May 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link
I don't even own a tv
― in a soylent whey (wins), Monday, 22 May 2017 15:58 (six years ago) link
"this show taught me how to be weird"
http://hottopic.scene7.com/is/image/HotTopic/10868319_hi
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 May 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
well, of course it is
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 May 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
hey whiney did you ever watch a Herzog movie
― Οὖτις, Monday, 22 May 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
i look fwd to seeing this series for free someday, but i'd bet most of the costume ppl watch no other weird filmmakers' stuff, just MARVEL movies.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link
http://www.gigslutz.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/XIU-XIU.jpg
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link
that said if ppl are gonna dress up for shit it might as well be quality
xp
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link
Watch the New “Twin Peaks” Intro
The show’s iconic title sequence has gotten an update
http://pitchfork.com/news/73645-watch-the-new-twin-peaks-intro/
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link
deputy andy brennan: "i can't put down this ... dang fidget spinner"
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link
Hey, man, have you even seen Marvel movies, they are faaaar out.
Whiney, I will give it up to you on the TP fandom. Hate to be a fun Nazi because god bless if you can eke out some enjoyment in this life, but seriously...fuck off with the cherry pie and the damn good coffee already.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link
I think you mean "I'm too poor for Quality Cable elitism"
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link
I want to join the party, but I still haven't seen season 2 or the movie.
― jmm, Monday, 22 May 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
I mean, this also crosses over into the sickness that is binge-watching, the generational lie that is "prestige TV" and the worst impulses of consumptive-capitialism-as-identity-signaling; all joining forces for a middlebrow shitstorm that lets you buy dick joke T-shirts at Hot Topic.
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link
criticizing the larger culture/market/audience instead of the actual product eh
― Οὖτις, Monday, 22 May 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link
welcome to the black lodge
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link
this also crosses over into the sickness that is binge-watching
actually they are going with a classic weekly rollout with this new season
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link
what i love is how this isn't about twin peaks
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link
Your critical concerns in that arena have some merit, Whiney, but I wonder sometimes if you remember laughter.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link
https://media.giphy.com/media/zDblGyoaNqwLu/giphy.gif
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, May 22, 2017 11:01 AM (fifteen minutes ago)
How much would this bet be, and are you talking Monopoly money or real money?
― 20-lol pileup (WilliamC), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link
Remember when a band called themselves "Twin Peaks" and websites covered them instead of laughing at them
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link
whiney you'd be into this the soundtrack is 90 percent static drones
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link
can't wait to read 700 thinkpieces about it
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link
How much would this bet be
i've seen more Bushwick millennials at close range than you have; trust me
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link
https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&ictx=2&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwikrcTJ8IPUAhVLRCYKHbbOBpsQPQgD#hl=en&q=%22how+twin+peaks%22
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, May 22, 2017 9:21 AM (thirty-one seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i agree that the context in which this show is airing sucks
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link
it is best to focus on the thing and not the fans, as with Jesus or Fight Club
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link
Just let the resurgent phenomenon die out on its own. The casual fans will drift away as soon as they recognize Lynch's steadfast resistance to giving them what they want.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link
https://cnet3.cbsistatic.com/img/7TzPMbcPZ2GB0Hr0v2Moy7-qfPs=/fit-in/970x0/2017/03/16/7a165371-3961-4652-b4a4-59792d28b3f3/feliciamst3k2.jpg
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link
https://www.google.com/search?q=rollingstone.com+twin+peaks&oq=rollingstone.com+twin+peaks&aqs=chrome..69i57.3591j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link
"I don't want to know anything when I go into a theater. I like to discover it, get into that world, try to get as good of picture and sound as possible, no interruptions – so you can have an experience. And anything that putrefies that is not good."
man, dude not into liveblogging
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:31 (six years ago) link
I'm into that method
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:32 (six years ago) link
i can kind of see where OP is coming from, the marketing and social media aspects of this revival are kind of cheapening it to some degree, but that really doesn't matter when Lynch is given a budget and full artistic control.
imagine if Seinfeld came back and Larry David could do whatever he wanted, people would be psyched. a perfect storm of 90s nostalgia and tv idolization. but it doesn't really matter, it's just marketing, they have always had this for any tv show. it will pass. what does annoy me is people saying "casuals" unironically. as if there is some hierarchy to you understanding Twin Peaks by watching more of it or reading more about it. i don't think that is necessarily the case nor the way Lynch structures the symbolism in his works. he works on a subconscious level, his symbolism is instantly spellbinding on a moment to moment basis, it is not dependent on narrative or linear cohesion. anyone who has seen his last 2 movies would know this. i'm most excited for the casuals who are just bandwagoning tbh.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link
are you literally posting "what if seinfeld present day" tho
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link
Lunch was, uh, six dollars and thirty-one cents at the Lamplighter Inn, that's on Highway Two near Lewis Fork. That was a tuna fish sandwich on whole wheat, slice of cherry pie, and a cup of coffee. But if you want a good cronut and macchiato, brother
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
"Diane, it struck me again earlier this morning, there are two things that continue to trouble me. And I'm speaking now not only as an agent of the Bureau but also as a human being. Why were the anime nazis so quick to adopt Pepe, a cartoon frog invented by a liberal cartoonist?"
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link
Also Diane is the memos app on his iPhone
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link
What if it turned out that he sent all of his tapes to the Cheers set and Shelley Long ultimately had to take out a restraining order against him?
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link
so in that alternate universe you would have posted a thread declaring you are not watching the new Seinfeld?
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link
if Seinfeld came back and Larry David could do whatever he wanted
tbf this already happened
― Οὖτις, Monday, 22 May 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link
I mean, for all of Seinfeld's transgressive and revolutionary things, it was still, for a good five years, one of the most popular television shows on the planet.
Twin Peaks was a cult phenomenon being elevated by time and probably, through no small measure, by the type of traditonally privileged people who inherited all the media jobs. This feels more like if Husker Du reunited and the media went on an all-points bulletin
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link
Smiths would probably be a better comparison
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link
This feels more like if Husker Du reunited and the media went on an all-points bulletin
I look forward to your day job totally ignoring their forthcoming Numero Group box set.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:32 (six years ago) link
there are some similarities between this thread and the things that it's criticizing
― Karl Malone, Monday, 22 May 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link
Twin Peaks was a top rated show during its first season. It was not Freaks and Geeks-level cult.
lol also KM otm
― Οὖτις, Monday, 22 May 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link
it's also been hugely influential on subsequent shows - X-Files, Sopranos, Mad Men, etc.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 22 May 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link
but you know all this shit Whiney
(also Seinfeld was garbage fyi)
― Οὖτις, Monday, 22 May 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link
Thanking u for the information.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link
it was all because you didn't watch it
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:28 (six years ago) link
*tears bookhouse boys patch off shirt, throws log out window*
― circa1916, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:33 (six years ago) link
sin e an rud nua anois ha? "ratings", ha? pfft
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:37 (six years ago) link
Ppl pretend otherwise but the original twin peaks did badly in the ratings after the pilot
Inland empire box office not so hot either iirc
Mark frost always blames twin peaks ratings failure on the gulf war, im assuming this will be trump's fault
― in a soylent whey (wins), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:48 (six years ago) link
Sorry off topic, meant to sayhttps://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BN2YxN2NiN2ItODA0My00YmVmLTkxZWEtZmQyOTUzODNjY2ViXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNDUxNjc5NjY@._V1_UY268_CR4,0,182,268_AL_.jpg
― in a soylent whey (wins), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:49 (six years ago) link
I'm sure Lynch is in a blind panic over these numbers, worrying that this project over which he had complete creative control and which is going to be released in its entirety even if no one is watching and which is very likely the last filmed project he'll ever undertake might sour his chances of directing The Fateful Fastening of the Furious. I'm positively smirking.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:55 (six years ago) link
i dunno, this might be a stretch, but wanting a project to fail (a continuation of one you admit to liking yourself) to spite a sliver of other people who like it in ~not a cool way~ is maybe fucking pathetic and sad
― circa1916, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:01 (six years ago) link
However, it's not too much a cause for concern, and perhaps far more an indication of how viewers choose to consume this kind of work.
Perhaps because it's near impossible to really spoil anything produced by David Lynch, it looks as if the weight of viewership fell on Showtime's on-demand services, with Deadline also reporting the network saw the single biggest day and weekend of signups ever for its streaming service, Showtime Anytime and Showtime On Demand.
"In the world that we live in now, offering original programming that attracts new subscribers is our primary business objective," said David Nevins, President and CEO, Showtime Networks in a statement. "By that standard, the Twin Peaks premiere is the biggest single-night driver we’ve ever had."
― nomar, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:02 (six years ago) link
would watch a lynch movie called the single-night driver
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:05 (six years ago) link
i came for the Twin Peaks, i stayed for the exquisite selection of softcore
― circa1916, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:05 (six years ago) link
Ha yeah knowing what little I do about showtime's rep in the states I'm kinda surprised ppl are signing up in record numbers rather than just waiting to torrent
― in a soylent whey (wins), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link
I didn't say I wanted it to fail, btw, I was just saying that attention/froth from press/Twitter is out of balance and corny
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:12 (six years ago) link
maybe if not probably that says something more about the press and twitter you choose to consume and follow and says you're a part of the relatively small target demo that this show is attempting to cultivate rather than it being out of balance.
― nomar, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:15 (six years ago) link
Yes, I definitely feel targeted
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link
And if this is what Showtime thinks of my demo then I feel disgusted
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:17 (six years ago) link
That seems a measured and reasonable reaction.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:28 (six years ago) link
lol circa
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link
I never had any plans to watch this (never even saw season 2 when it was new) but I am somewhat more sympathetic to Whiney's position after being sent a promo of an album by a band called Dale Cooper & the Dictaphones.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link
From the orbit of bands that gave us Free Nelson Mandoomjazz
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
I used to enjoy eating food with a spoon but then that band went and called themselves Spoon and now just looking at silverware makes me throw up in my mouth. What exceedingly-fragile components of my self-identity are people going to demolish next?
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link
Do you just look at the epic bacon mustache zombie threads in mystified confusion?
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link
"I don't understand, bacon is rather epic?"
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link
epic bacon mustache zombie threads
the what now?
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link
get on 77
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link
no
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link
wins is not entirely wrong... the "first" (post-pilot) episode had a big dropoff vs Cheers
http://www.angelfire.com/in2/judesmovies/papers/twpe.htm
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 18:04 (six years ago) link
out of all the dumb shit in this thread this one hits me the most. i was pulling my hair out when ppl were treating this band as legit. you cant just name your band twin peaks, fucking idiots!
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link
Isn't one of your American knockers restaurants called that
― in a soylent whey (wins), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link
Is there anyone else besides me, Morbs and Sara who are like "Yeah, I can wait, thanks"― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, May 22, 2017 5:56 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, May 22, 2017 5:56 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i love the original show and i'll see this eventually, but in no hurry. i mean it's been long enough in coming so what's a few more months or w/e? i only got exposed to the original show six years ago so i haven't been waiting as long though.
there was a big thing a bunch of my friends were going to on Sunday to see it open at a movie-screen bar and i skipped it. unconsciously part of the reason probably lines up with whiney's thread-starting issues, where this is basically like the force awakens for a slightly different (but overlapping) lifestyle submarket. but it's also more like, man, there is NOTHING about o.g. twin peaks that says to me "this would be better watched in a crowded, sweaty bar with people cheering over the dialogue when familiar old faces and catch-phrases show up." so much of it is about solitary creepiness and being deeply unsettled by things. not to say that can't happen in something that is also 'entertainment' - that's obvious given the success of the original show! - but the particular culturally-embedded form of entertainment-eventness that we have before us in 2017 just isn't going to enhance my watching of this thing.
― ﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link
Yeah "viewing parties" and pies and whatever are a terrible way to go about things (but are a holdover from 1990 & not really anything to do w 2017 media consumption), but it's like how people dress up to sit in the dark in a cinema: it's not my business if ppl don't know how to watch things (Star Wars sucks for different reasons)
― in a soylent whey (wins), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
― in a soylent whey (wins)
it is and it confuses me. i would assume there are double entendres for knockers that don't evoke backwards-speaking dwarves.
― Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:51 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yes, but possibly for different reasons than you might assume.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link
a middlebrow shitstorm that lets you buy dick joke T-shirts at Hot Topic.― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, May 22, 2017 9:11 AM (one month ago)
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, May 22, 2017 9:11 AM (one month ago)
― sarahell, Sunday, 25 June 2017 23:15 (six years ago) link
^ NEVER FORGET
― sarahell, Sunday, 25 June 2017 23:18 (six years ago) link
David Bowie
― the ghost of markers, Sunday, 25 June 2017 23:43 (six years ago) link
i hope the next generation of privileged hipsters get really into nerd-ass SpazzNoiz rap rock and write thousands of fawning braindead thinkpieces about it and bingewatch middlebrow prestige tv about like, the Anger Management Tour so that Whiney is forced to disavow it
― flopson, Sunday, 25 June 2017 23:56 (six years ago) link
i hear there's a guy named Dougie
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 June 2017 02:17 (six years ago) link
There is!
Also, tonight's episode was mind-blowing and maybe the most experimental thing Lynch has ever done and had almost zero explicit reference to the Twin Peaks people were familiar with before this year. Many a Showtime subscription was cancelled on this night, I'm certain.
― President Buttstuff (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 June 2017 03:08 (six years ago) link
But for every person who unsubscribed , another five people stood around and pointed and laughed at them
― Karl Malone, Monday, 26 June 2017 03:19 (six years ago) link
at least two things in this episode made me think whiney NEEDS to see this
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 26 June 2017 03:48 (six years ago) link
Seriously, it's like the scene of the bronies scarfing platefuls of bacon at the RR was written just for him.
― President Buttstuff (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 June 2017 04:24 (six years ago) link
if you're all too cool for twin peaks, this episode was the exact opposite of twin peaks, which means you're also too cool for the exact opposite of twin peaks
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 26 June 2017 04:32 (six years ago) link
MOR
― Karl Malone, Monday, 26 June 2017 04:33 (six years ago) link
You pricks this thread is for the non watchers fuck off
― quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Monday, 26 June 2017 07:59 (six years ago) link
TBF, I am not watching Twin Peaks season 3 at this moment.
― President Buttstuff (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 June 2017 11:56 (six years ago) link
am i the only one that is so sick of the teens in hot topic wearing bright green gardening gloves and making Dougie Jones references? Twin Peaks is not a passing fad, teens, this shit is important and should be treated with respect
― Karl Malone, Monday, 13 November 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link
This too will fold in time into its allotted place in the texture of the living story
― eeshTrip (darraghmac), Monday, 13 November 2017 18:04 (six years ago) link
Twin Peaks:Whiney Stranger Things:Me
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 13 November 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link
If you like films tho, David Lynch films... are goodI feel like this thread sentiment would have shone as a single post in the garbage thread "things you just don't care about" but I understand that a whiney gets parched and I 100% genuinely endorse the bad sociology― in a soylent whey (wins), Monday, 22 May 2017 18:53 (five months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkliterally just shat an "oh is sportsball on??" tweet onto the rug and mewled up at us expecting a treat
― treeship: a year in the life (wins), Monday, 13 November 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link
I finally watched Stranger Things. It was cute!
― sarahell, Monday, 13 November 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link