thread for ppl who aren't watching Twin Peaks Season 3

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lol come on Apatow doesn't even have a recognizable visual style

Οὖτις, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link

Damn, Apatowed. I guess we know what Remy's third login is.

sciatica, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:04 (six years ago) link

Apatowned

Οὖτις, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link

when it comes down to it, being tagged as an auteur is a compliment given to people indicating that they have a distinct authorial voice, and that collaborators are guided by that voice (sometimes literally, with the lynch/badalamenti conversations). the implication is that the finished work belongs to the auteur, that their vision had primacy in the finished product

imo it's only really useful as a marker for consumers of media, so you can say "oh yeah this is a <x> production" and you know what you'll get. it almost always glosses over the other key collaborators that made or broke the standout productions -- wes anderson is consistent but variation in writing partners is definitely evident!

and yeah, you could make a case for the apatows or whatever. or george lucas.

mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link

If we're going by visual flair... then sure, Lynch is an auteur. Aesthetically, he's got a great thing going. His sound design is top notch, and his mis en scene is great. But, so?

remy bean, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link

he is and he isnt
can we stop now

spud called maris (darraghmac), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link

I mean you could debate all day about who the ~true auteurs~ are and who is worthy of inclusion

imo there are a lot more auteurs in the fringe or low budget space. lloyd kaufman, john carpenter, roger corman, john waters, all the women I should know but don't because film is sexist and my own knowledge is shallow. every foreign director who's tagged in auteur in the US because we don't know the key collaborators because the names fell off on import

mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link

he is if you need him to be and he isnt if you need him not to be

spud called maris (darraghmac), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link

other ppl arent actually watching this show at all, and if they are they are definitely doing so in just the right flavour that pleases you the most darling now shhhhhhh go to sleep

spud called maris (darraghmac), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:12 (six years ago) link

I want to diminish him and I think auteurism is good so he is not

mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link

Let's keep going to see just how much ground Remy can concede while staying properly riled.

sciatica, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link

this shit is the hipster version of being a furry at this point

― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten)

i'm not watching this show but i am a furry. am i still welcome on this thread?

Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link

darragh you have no horse in this race. we're at the greyhound track

mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:14 (six years ago) link

where does lynch fit on the auteurism spectrum

Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:14 (six years ago) link

the hipster version of being a furry i mean good christ the hipster version of being a furry

spud called maris (darraghmac), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:16 (six years ago) link

if lynch is in auteur then so is THIS PUDDLE *jumps in puddle until bedtime*

spud called maris (darraghmac), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:17 (six years ago) link

like i should probably be watching this show as the last time it was on people kept asking me about it for two years straight even though i was fourteen at the time but i'm like five episodes behind in watching the one television show i do watch.

Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:17 (six years ago) link

imo the only way to tell if someone is a film auteur is if nerdo theaters will have a "the films of this guy" series

mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:18 (six years ago) link

roger corman, auteur

Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:19 (six years ago) link

shut up everyone you're all annoying

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:19 (six years ago) link

i mean thank god people are talking about this weird trippy lsd shit instead of master of none or stupid mad men.

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:21 (six years ago) link

I mean you could debate all day about who the ~true auteurs~ are and who is worthy of inclusion

yes this is probably the most boring and cliche and pointless film nerd debate ever

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:22 (six years ago) link

dude, did you just go on a thread for people who aren't watching twin peaks and upbraid us for not watching twin peaks? that's some strong coffee, sir.

Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:23 (six years ago) link

I think Remy is trying to teach people to unlearn all of their associations with the word Lynchian--very TM.

sciatica, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:25 (six years ago) link

haha something is in the percolator xp

mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:25 (six years ago) link

I just don't think Oson Welles, judged on the merits of his Paul Masson commercials, is worthy the crown of 'visionary'. Sorry, that's just how I feel.

human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:27 (six years ago) link

Or his brother Orson, for that matter.

human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:27 (six years ago) link

I just don't think Oson Welles, judged on the merits of his Paul Masson commercials, is worthy the crown of 'visionary'. Sorry, that's just how I feel.

― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch)

that's only because he didn't live long enough to make a playstation 2 commercial

Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link

really psyched to not watch this, actually got a head start re-not-watching the second season this week

sleepingbag, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

going too actually watch it now, removing bookmark

mh, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 00:21 (six years ago) link

can we talk about other shows we aren't watching right now?

i'm not watching The Americans but i kind of want to, especially since now more than ever a show that focuses on the tricky, twisted relationship of a pair of Soviet agents--as well as their own tricky, twisted relationship with the United States--seems cunningly prescient.

nomar, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 00:29 (six years ago) link

i'm not watching The Walking Dead, a show whose shift in focus away from the undead monsters and whose shift towards the all-too-terrifying human monsters who rise up in the wake of society's unrest and upheaval is spookily relevant in these unpredictable times.

nomar, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 00:32 (six years ago) link

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oh jfc

qualx, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 01:12 (six years ago) link

Not watching all those messages, don't care what u say.

human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 01:27 (six years ago) link

imo the only way to tell if someone is a film auteur is if nerdo theaters will have a "the films of this guy" series

― mh, Monday, May 22, 2017 7:18 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

something in which Lynch excel, to be fair.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 03:17 (six years ago) link

You win, Whiney! You win. God bless.

human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:20 (six years ago) link

it was all because you didn't watch it

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:28 (six years ago) link

*tears bookhouse boys patch off shirt, throws log out window*

circa1916, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:33 (six years ago) link

sin e an rud nua anois ha? "ratings", ha? pfft

spud called maris (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:37 (six years ago) link

Ppl pretend otherwise but the original twin peaks did badly in the ratings after the pilot

Inland empire box office not so hot either iirc

Mark frost always blames twin peaks ratings failure on the gulf war, im assuming this will be trump's fault

in a soylent whey (wins), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:48 (six years ago) link

I'm sure Lynch is in a blind panic over these numbers, worrying that this project over which he had complete creative control and which is going to be released in its entirety even if no one is watching and which is very likely the last filmed project he'll ever undertake might sour his chances of directing The Fateful Fastening of the Furious. I'm positively smirking.

human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:55 (six years ago) link

i dunno, this might be a stretch, but wanting a project to fail (a continuation of one you admit to liking yourself) to spite a sliver of other people who like it in ~not a cool way~ is maybe fucking pathetic and sad

circa1916, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:01 (six years ago) link

However, it's not too much a cause for concern, and perhaps far more an indication of how viewers choose to consume this kind of work.

Perhaps because it's near impossible to really spoil anything produced by David Lynch, it looks as if the weight of viewership fell on Showtime's on-demand services, with Deadline also reporting the network saw the single biggest day and weekend of signups ever for its streaming service, Showtime Anytime and Showtime On Demand.

"In the world that we live in now, offering original programming that attracts new subscribers is our primary business objective," said David Nevins, President and CEO, Showtime Networks in a statement. "By that standard, the Twin Peaks premiere is the biggest single-night driver we’ve ever had."

nomar, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:02 (six years ago) link

would watch a lynch movie called the single-night driver

spud called maris (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:05 (six years ago) link

i came for the Twin Peaks, i stayed for the exquisite selection of softcore

circa1916, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:05 (six years ago) link

Ha yeah knowing what little I do about showtime's rep in the states I'm kinda surprised ppl are signing up in record numbers rather than just waiting to torrent

in a soylent whey (wins), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link

I didn't say I wanted it to fail, btw, I was just saying that attention/froth from press/Twitter is out of balance and corny

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:12 (six years ago) link

maybe if not probably that says something more about the press and twitter you choose to consume and follow and says you're a part of the relatively small target demo that this show is attempting to cultivate rather than it being out of balance.

nomar, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:15 (six years ago) link


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