Black Panther (2018), dir Ryan Coogler

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Apparently no separate thread for this one yet. So, poster:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB4dYS1WsAIN7ro.jpg:large

First teaser broadcasts tonight during the NBA finals.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2017 13:41 (eight months ago) Permalink

(And if the image didn't show up for any reason:

Witness the legend. The new poster for @MarvelStudios' #BlackPanther is here. Watch Game 4 tonight for the premiere of the teaser trailer. pic.twitter.com/Pzj9LqIJ6x

— Disney (@Disney) June 9, 2017

Yay, etc.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2017 13:42 (eight months ago) Permalink

that is one fugly poster

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 9 June 2017 13:43 (eight months ago) Permalink

dammit thought this was gonna be a Donald Nielson biopic

There's got to be a Corbyn after (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 June 2017 13:44 (eight months ago) Permalink

really looking forward to this

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 June 2017 13:45 (eight months ago) Permalink

this stands the best chance of being the first not-boring Marvel movie

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 9 June 2017 13:46 (eight months ago) Permalink

I hope not, as Marvel movies are the only proven palliative for my insomnia. Because they're so boring, do u see.

Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 June 2017 14:08 (eight months ago) Permalink

movie posters are so bad now

mh, Friday, 9 June 2017 14:33 (eight months ago) Permalink

photoshop must be real hard because no-one who makes movie posters seems to be able to use it well

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 June 2017 14:35 (eight months ago) Permalink

"set phasers on 'smoulder'"

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Friday, 9 June 2017 14:37 (eight months ago) Permalink

Sometimes, when I think back to my youthful vehement opposition toward the notion of graphic design becoming a licensed professional organization, I understand how people become conservatives.

Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 June 2017 14:39 (eight months ago) Permalink

I have high hopes for this movie. Every coworker I've talked to about Black Panther's first appearance in the Captain America movie agreed that he was the best character in that one -- it helped he was the only one who got a real plot arc

mh, Friday, 9 June 2017 14:40 (eight months ago) Permalink

Wow...didn't notice that till now pic.twitter.com/7O976veAZf

— Black Girl Nerds (@BlackGirlNerds) June 9, 2017

ran across this on Twitter and now regret my joke

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Friday, 9 June 2017 16:49 (eight months ago) Permalink

It can be both

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2017 16:53 (eight months ago) Permalink

god when is this going to end

Οὖτις, Friday, 9 June 2017 16:58 (eight months ago) Permalink

When you stop complaining about it, so, never.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2017 16:59 (eight months ago) Permalink

haha

Οὖτις, Friday, 9 June 2017 17:00 (eight months ago) Permalink

Is there a photoshop setting that will fix man-spreading?

rb (soda), Friday, 9 June 2017 17:04 (eight months ago) Permalink

The avatar makes me read that Disney tweet in Mickey's voice.

dinnerboat, Friday, 9 June 2017 18:37 (eight months ago) Permalink

Okay, we are live...

HERO. LEGEND. KING. Watch the teaser trailer now. #BlackPanther pic.twitter.com/2d0lGExv81

— Black Panther (@theblackpanther) June 10, 2017

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 June 2017 01:40 (eight months ago) Permalink

well that looks good

akm, Saturday, 10 June 2017 02:05 (eight months ago) Permalink

Caught a glimpse of Ramonda and Everett Ross. Looks like a mashup of Priest and Coates runs.

rb (soda), Saturday, 10 June 2017 02:14 (eight months ago) Permalink

Good use of Run The Jewels for trailer music

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Saturday, 10 June 2017 02:39 (eight months ago) Permalink

Scene by scene breakdown, should you want one

http://www.vulture.com/2017/06/what-we-learned-from-marvels-first-black-panther-trailer.html

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 June 2017 16:57 (eight months ago) Permalink

Could this be the first Hollywood movie to include the word "tricknology" in dialogue?

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 10 June 2017 17:16 (eight months ago) Permalink

Seriously who writes like that? People who get paid for it, I guess.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 10 June 2017 17:23 (eight months ago) Permalink

Referring to the vulture thing Ned linked.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 10 June 2017 17:34 (eight months ago) Permalink

That poster image could too easily double for the film's inevitable gay porn parody.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Saturday, 10 June 2017 22:19 (eight months ago) Permalink

It's a Hewi Newton reference

http://behindthescenes.nyhistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/2.31-Stapp_Huey_JJ_60D_02312.jpg

akm, Sunday, 11 June 2017 00:25 (eight months ago) Permalink

oh someone already pointed that out

akm, Sunday, 11 June 2017 00:25 (eight months ago) Permalink

shakey why do you hate-read these threads? you're turning into morbius

akm, Sunday, 11 June 2017 00:26 (eight months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Lots of photos and things and stuff these last couple of days, etc. etc.

http://ew.com/movies/black-panther-marvel-portraits/black-panther/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 July 2017 13:30 (seven months ago) Permalink

I feel like this one is going to be light on jokes.

I'm still bothered by the bit in the trailer where he takes off in his cool hoverplane but there is absolutely no sign of downforce on the water beneath. YOU CANT HEAR ECKTHPLOZUNS IN SPAAAACE

El Tomboto, Friday, 14 July 2017 14:10 (seven months ago) Permalink

Wakandan tech can overcome Newtonian physics duh

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Friday, 14 July 2017 14:12 (seven months ago) Permalink

these movies could stand to have a few fewer jokes anyway

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 14 July 2017 14:13 (seven months ago) Permalink

or better jokes

mh, Friday, 14 July 2017 14:14 (seven months ago) Permalink

And have a new poster.

Check out the new @theblackpanther San Diego Comic-Con poster that just debuted in Hall H! #BlackPanther pic.twitter.com/pxEGB5b7bV

— Marvel Entertainment (@Marvel) July 23, 2017

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 23 July 2017 03:47 (six months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

New poster...

Bringing a brand new #BlackPanther poster to you 1st! We hit theaters Feb 16, but you can check out the new trailer from @marvelstudios NOW. pic.twitter.com/KFbA9A9cG8

— Chadwick Boseman (@chadwickboseman) October 16, 2017

And new trailer.

Long live the king. Watch the new trailer for Marvel Studios' #BlackPanther. In theaters February 16! pic.twitter.com/fs1UKzjiqN

— Black Panther (@theblackpanther) October 16, 2017

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 October 2017 13:24 (four months ago) Permalink

shut up and take my money

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Monday, 16 October 2017 13:54 (four months ago) Permalink

^^^
Yep

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 16 October 2017 14:20 (four months ago) Permalink

gil scott heron! too much!

cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 16 October 2017 14:29 (four months ago) Permalink

I'm team Killmonger now

mh, Monday, 16 October 2017 14:30 (four months ago) Permalink

I am Team Killmonger's Barber

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Monday, 16 October 2017 14:31 (four months ago) Permalink

understandable

mh, Monday, 16 October 2017 14:32 (four months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

I'm finally watching Get On Up and it's not as if I didn't love Boseman already but omg I cannot wait for this movie

El Tomboto, Sunday, 5 November 2017 01:32 (three months ago) Permalink

also, I am now disappointed that there wasn't a deleted scene from the battle royale in Civil War where T'Challa pauses and think to himself "Dammit, I'm in the middle of a honky hoedown"

El Tomboto, Sunday, 5 November 2017 01:36 (three months ago) Permalink

trying not to get too hype for this after being mildly let down by ragnarok but it’s not working tbh

wow. that was truly the minecraft of sex. (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 13 November 2017 18:31 (three months ago) Permalink

XP justifies those Hobbit movies imo

eeshTrip (darraghmac), Monday, 13 November 2017 18:32 (three months ago) Permalink

the breakthrough is when sun ra's band switched from fezzes to egyptian headgear

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5_it5HlEe6Q/Uy5yahccQNI/AAAAAAAACBY/aiofmgzVTV4/s1600/Sun-Ra-fez.jpg

mark s, Saturday, 17 February 2018 10:41 (yesterday) Permalink

In my twitter I have mostly seen negative takes, mostly of the this is US imperialism variety.

This is in that mode, and was one of the more convincing:

Black Panther is a deeply evil film. It dangles the idea of global black liberation in front of you, paints that as villainous, then ends in an orgy of the freest black people to ever walk the earth slaughtering each other to protect whites. That shit turned my stomach.

— L. (@leslieleeiii) February 17, 2018

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 17 February 2018 12:12 (yesterday) Permalink

Yeah there are obvious limits to the radicalism of corporate superhero movies. (And with the movie playing out a cartoon version of Martin vs Malcolm, there’s never any question about its sympathies.) But anti-spectacle lefties tend to underestimate the value of representation.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 17 February 2018 12:20 (yesterday) Permalink

A reason I warmed to what he was saying is that he also likes Blade

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 17 February 2018 12:24 (yesterday) Permalink

the notion that blade has better politics seems… strained

mark s, Saturday, 17 February 2018 13:53 (yesterday) Permalink

sorry ur twitter peeps didn’t get the Inglorious Panther they were expecting

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 17 February 2018 13:57 (yesterday) Permalink

the point twitter is trying to make is undercut a bit by the fact that the on-screen characters come to the same conclusion

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 February 2018 14:08 (yesterday) Permalink

ie, they realize they're fighting their own community due to manipulation by their new king and immediately stand down.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 February 2018 14:09 (yesterday) Permalink

based on comics from 46 years ago

Which were groundbreaking too. But obv there's an enormous gulf between a comic aimed at a subset of superhero readers -- a niche of a niche -- and a big-bash Hollywood spectacular that has probably already been seen by more people than have read a Black Panther comic in the past 50 years.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 17 February 2018 14:23 (yesterday) Permalink

I mean, it’s never clearly spelled out but the implication is that Killmonger’s plan isn’t about justice at all, and is purely about revenge and power, is there. And he pretty much acknowledges he doesn’t care how Wakanda or any country ends up, he just wants to destroy the current world

mh, Saturday, 17 February 2018 14:26 (yesterday) Permalink

yeah, the multitude of governments he destabilized elsewhere weren't really done in the name of liberation

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 February 2018 14:29 (yesterday) Permalink

the more I think about this take the more garbage it is.

bloody revolution isn’t painted as villainous - it’s painted as sympathetic, even justified, and deeply self-destructive

nobody slaughters anyone in the 3rd act bunfight - somehow with all those edged weapons flashing around not a drop of blood is shed, all downed vehicles seem to be piloted by remote, and the fight literally stops short on a sloppy tongue kiss.

If there’s a case to be made that Black Panther is a deeply evil film (and I sympathize with the tweeter’s distress while yes laughing my balls off at the hyperbole) we could look at its explicit valorization of American-style economic and cultural imperialism

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 17 February 2018 14:34 (yesterday) Permalink

lol xpost coulda just said Neanderthal otm

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 17 February 2018 14:36 (yesterday) Permalink

i do think we're obviously meant to sympathize with Killmonger. he was left fatherless in Oakland in a year that was particularly volatile regarding race relations. some of what he says inspires T'Chaka to change his nations non-interventionist politics.

Killmonger's heel turn isn't him wanting to free the oppressed, it's that he let his politics get muddy along the way. he acts more like an autocrat than a liberator, destroying all of the vibranium plant to ensure he'd never be overthrown in a challenge (since now there would be no Black Panther reward).

he also sows division among his own people and inspires the natives into civil war.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 February 2018 14:44 (yesterday) Permalink

*T'Challa

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 February 2018 14:47 (yesterday) Permalink

while we’re on the topic of imperialism and revolution, in a weird way I think the museum scene is my favorite thing in this movie

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 17 February 2018 14:54 (yesterday) Permalink

i want to see the welsh exhibit, where all the weapons are made of LEEKS

mark s, Saturday, 17 February 2018 14:59 (yesterday) Permalink

just got out of this

fucking loved it holy shit

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 17 February 2018 14:59 (yesterday) Permalink

rank it alongside the nolan batmans

mark s, Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:00 (yesterday) Permalink

i mean it’s no dark knight rises obv

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:01 (yesterday) Permalink

so many performances of nuclear-grade charisma from actors we’d only usually see rationed out to supporting performances here and there

just a delight from start to finish, with a totally compelling central conflict

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:03 (yesterday) Permalink

Flagging whoever mentions Nolan.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:08 (yesterday) Permalink

they did kinda have incepted dreams

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:09 (yesterday) Permalink

BG otm but also so many worthwhile roles. no one is stock, no one is rote. the care and the *sweat* that went into making each speaking part *worthwhile* for the actor who would play it shames most of the big popcorners of the past idk, 20 years?

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:10 (yesterday) Permalink

Alfred also otm gtfo with nolan

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:13 (yesterday) Permalink

so many great roles for women too, and they play a key role in wrapping up the conflict

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:15 (yesterday) Permalink

yeah the gender politics are as central as the racial, just not stated as explicitly

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 17 February 2018 18:44 (yesterday) Permalink

so the guys at breitbart like this one

F# A# (∞), Saturday, 17 February 2018 19:32 (yesterday) Permalink

i dislike all superhero movies and am only interested in seeing this for kendrick soundtrack in a theater, haven't seen anyone mention it itt. anything?

sleepingbag, Saturday, 17 February 2018 21:38 (yesterday) Permalink

it's there, but seldom takes center stage

my prediction that it'd barely be in the film was luckily wrong, it's in there! the symphonic score is pretty well-placed, too

mh, Saturday, 17 February 2018 21:42 (yesterday) Permalink

so many performances of nuclear-grade charisma from actors we’d only usually see rationed out to supporting performances here and there

Totally otm, loved this.

Also loved hearing a bit of Mozzy's "Sleepwalkin" towards the end. And loved basically everything else

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:20 (yesterday) Permalink

the soundtrack is barely present. Disappointingly so, I thought

Number None, Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:26 (yesterday) Permalink

I thought this was...fine. It was fun to see all the cast getting stuck into these roles (and I thought Michael B. Jordan's last scene was genuinely moving) but as a film qua film I thought it was just above Marvel standard

the rhinos were a misstep

Number None, Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:29 (yesterday) Permalink

It made sense as a choice for the soundtrack to be more prominent in the outside world, but give way to the score in isolated Wakanda

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:29 (yesterday) Permalink

rhinos are an hommage to "the travels of babar" iirc

mark s, Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:36 (yesterday) Permalink

you know what bugged me most about this was it starts a week after the events of civil war but chadwick boseman’s beard is at least a couple of weeks’ worth of growth longer than it was in that movie

unforgivably sloppy imo

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:39 (yesterday) Permalink

it's no batman begins

mark s, Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:41 (yesterday) Permalink

Good review

rum dmc (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:43 (yesterday) Permalink

after we saw this my wife said that all the way through she was genuinely worried that nakia or okoye would end up dying at some point

once the credits were rolling and they were both still kicking (uh spoilers i guess) she realised that it might have been cuz movies have kinda conditioned audiences to expect horrible things to happen to sidekicks/women/black people

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:53 (yesterday) Permalink

it's no batman begins


it features an animal-themed main character with ears on his helmet, who is massively affluent and uses advanced technology to do good in his fight against a villain who is his ideological opposite and who aims to destroy the established world order

it’s basically the same movie

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:57 (yesterday) Permalink

also: final fight involves a monorail

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:57 (yesterday) Permalink

once the credits were rolling and they were both still kicking (uh spoilers i guess) she realised that it might have been cuz movies have kinda conditioned audiences to expect horrible things to happen to sidekicks/women/black people

― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, February 17, 2018

and it's deeply disappointing that nothing horrible happens to martin freeman. every minute he's given in the third act made me crazy lol. (not his fault - he's great, just the part is completely unnecessary other than as a defensive placement to counter #notallcolonizers)

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:04 (ten hours ago) Permalink

his presence was legit the worst thing about this movie cuz every time he showed up all i could think was ‘this is what this shithead believes irl’

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8FVWPpCAAIiWKf?format=jpg&name=medium

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:11 (ten hours ago) Permalink

jesus

"I really liked hip-hop until the gangsta rap took over. I come from a time when not every rap record was 'nigga' this and 'nigga' that; an earlier socially and morally conscious hip-hop sensibility, when it was, 'Don't call people nigga'."

"But now it's nigga, nigga, nigga, and it's not funny or interesting politically, artistically or socially. I really don't like it.

Number None, Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:40 (nine hours ago) Permalink

typical fkn hobbit

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 18 February 2018 02:27 (seven hours ago) Permalink

haven't seen this yet but was caught by the straight-facedness of this headline

https://shadowandact.com/erik-killmonger-forgotten-wakanda/?utm_content=buffer05587&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Simon H., Sunday, 18 February 2018 04:36 (five hours ago) Permalink

?utm_content=buffer05587&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Haribo Hancock (sic), Sunday, 18 February 2018 04:52 (five hours ago) Permalink

oh man now shadowandact.com is going to know we clicked on that link on facebook using a link promoted via the buffer tool :(

mh, Sunday, 18 February 2018 05:16 (five hours ago) Permalink

we didn't tho

help stet make ad $ again

Haribo Hancock (sic), Sunday, 18 February 2018 07:49 (two hours ago) Permalink

David Brothers:

The black cast and...ambiance (for lack of a better) is tight. But treating this as a civil rights victory or the first time we’ve been here feels like erasure to me. It’s a Marvel movie with a cool cultural hook after actual decades of lip service. Let it be what it is.

— brothers before others, LLC (@hermanos) February 16, 2018

(part of a small thread)

also, his and Tucker Stone's analysis of Panther's Rage by McGregor & Graham & al got compiled and republished this week :Fear Of A Black Panther

Haribo Hancock (sic), Sunday, 18 February 2018 07:51 (two hours ago) Permalink


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