Black Panther (2018), dir Ryan Coogler

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Apparently no separate thread for this one yet. So, poster:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB4dYS1WsAIN7ro.jpg:large

First teaser broadcasts tonight during the NBA finals.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2017 13:41 (eleven months ago) Permalink

(And if the image didn't show up for any reason:

Witness the legend. The new poster for @MarvelStudios' #BlackPanther is here. Watch Game 4 tonight for the premiere of the teaser trailer. pic.twitter.com/Pzj9LqIJ6x

— Disney (@Disney) June 9, 2017

Yay, etc.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2017 13:42 (eleven months ago) Permalink

that is one fugly poster

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 9 June 2017 13:43 (eleven months ago) Permalink

dammit thought this was gonna be a Donald Nielson biopic

There's got to be a Corbyn after (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 June 2017 13:44 (eleven months ago) Permalink

really looking forward to this

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 June 2017 13:45 (eleven months ago) Permalink

this stands the best chance of being the first not-boring Marvel movie

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 9 June 2017 13:46 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I hope not, as Marvel movies are the only proven palliative for my insomnia. Because they're so boring, do u see.

Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 June 2017 14:08 (eleven months ago) Permalink

movie posters are so bad now

mh, Friday, 9 June 2017 14:33 (eleven months ago) Permalink

photoshop must be real hard because no-one who makes movie posters seems to be able to use it well

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 June 2017 14:35 (eleven months ago) Permalink

"set phasers on 'smoulder'"

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Friday, 9 June 2017 14:37 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Sometimes, when I think back to my youthful vehement opposition toward the notion of graphic design becoming a licensed professional organization, I understand how people become conservatives.

Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 June 2017 14:39 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I have high hopes for this movie. Every coworker I've talked to about Black Panther's first appearance in the Captain America movie agreed that he was the best character in that one -- it helped he was the only one who got a real plot arc

mh, Friday, 9 June 2017 14:40 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Wow...didn't notice that till now pic.twitter.com/7O976veAZf

— Black Girl Nerds (@BlackGirlNerds) June 9, 2017

ran across this on Twitter and now regret my joke

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Friday, 9 June 2017 16:49 (eleven months ago) Permalink

It can be both

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2017 16:53 (eleven months ago) Permalink

god when is this going to end

Οὖτις, Friday, 9 June 2017 16:58 (eleven months ago) Permalink

When you stop complaining about it, so, never.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2017 16:59 (eleven months ago) Permalink

haha

Οὖτις, Friday, 9 June 2017 17:00 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Is there a photoshop setting that will fix man-spreading?

rb (soda), Friday, 9 June 2017 17:04 (eleven months ago) Permalink

The avatar makes me read that Disney tweet in Mickey's voice.

dinnerboat, Friday, 9 June 2017 18:37 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Okay, we are live...

HERO. LEGEND. KING. Watch the teaser trailer now. #BlackPanther pic.twitter.com/2d0lGExv81

— Black Panther (@theblackpanther) June 10, 2017

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 June 2017 01:40 (eleven months ago) Permalink

well that looks good

akm, Saturday, 10 June 2017 02:05 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Caught a glimpse of Ramonda and Everett Ross. Looks like a mashup of Priest and Coates runs.

rb (soda), Saturday, 10 June 2017 02:14 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Good use of Run The Jewels for trailer music

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Saturday, 10 June 2017 02:39 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Scene by scene breakdown, should you want one

http://www.vulture.com/2017/06/what-we-learned-from-marvels-first-black-panther-trailer.html

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 June 2017 16:57 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Could this be the first Hollywood movie to include the word "tricknology" in dialogue?

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 10 June 2017 17:16 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Seriously who writes like that? People who get paid for it, I guess.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 10 June 2017 17:23 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Referring to the vulture thing Ned linked.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 10 June 2017 17:34 (eleven months ago) Permalink

That poster image could too easily double for the film's inevitable gay porn parody.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Saturday, 10 June 2017 22:19 (eleven months ago) Permalink

It's a Hewi Newton reference

http://behindthescenes.nyhistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/2.31-Stapp_Huey_JJ_60D_02312.jpg

akm, Sunday, 11 June 2017 00:25 (eleven months ago) Permalink

oh someone already pointed that out

akm, Sunday, 11 June 2017 00:25 (eleven months ago) Permalink

shakey why do you hate-read these threads? you're turning into morbius

akm, Sunday, 11 June 2017 00:26 (eleven months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Lots of photos and things and stuff these last couple of days, etc. etc.

http://ew.com/movies/black-panther-marvel-portraits/black-panther/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 July 2017 13:30 (ten months ago) Permalink

I feel like this one is going to be light on jokes.

I'm still bothered by the bit in the trailer where he takes off in his cool hoverplane but there is absolutely no sign of downforce on the water beneath. YOU CANT HEAR ECKTHPLOZUNS IN SPAAAACE

El Tomboto, Friday, 14 July 2017 14:10 (ten months ago) Permalink

Wakandan tech can overcome Newtonian physics duh

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Friday, 14 July 2017 14:12 (ten months ago) Permalink

these movies could stand to have a few fewer jokes anyway

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 14 July 2017 14:13 (ten months ago) Permalink

or better jokes

mh, Friday, 14 July 2017 14:14 (ten months ago) Permalink

And have a new poster.

Check out the new @theblackpanther San Diego Comic-Con poster that just debuted in Hall H! #BlackPanther pic.twitter.com/pxEGB5b7bV

— Marvel Entertainment (@Marvel) July 23, 2017

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 23 July 2017 03:47 (ten months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

New poster...

Bringing a brand new #BlackPanther poster to you 1st! We hit theaters Feb 16, but you can check out the new trailer from @marvelstudios NOW. pic.twitter.com/KFbA9A9cG8

— Chadwick Boseman (@chadwickboseman) October 16, 2017

And new trailer.

Long live the king. Watch the new trailer for Marvel Studios' #BlackPanther. In theaters February 16! pic.twitter.com/fs1UKzjiqN

— Black Panther (@theblackpanther) October 16, 2017

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 October 2017 13:24 (seven months ago) Permalink

shut up and take my money

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Monday, 16 October 2017 13:54 (seven months ago) Permalink

^^^
Yep

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 16 October 2017 14:20 (seven months ago) Permalink

gil scott heron! too much!

cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 16 October 2017 14:29 (seven months ago) Permalink

I'm team Killmonger now

mh, Monday, 16 October 2017 14:30 (seven months ago) Permalink

I am Team Killmonger's Barber

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Monday, 16 October 2017 14:31 (seven months ago) Permalink

understandable

mh, Monday, 16 October 2017 14:32 (seven months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

I'm finally watching Get On Up and it's not as if I didn't love Boseman already but omg I cannot wait for this movie

El Tomboto, Sunday, 5 November 2017 01:32 (six months ago) Permalink

also, I am now disappointed that there wasn't a deleted scene from the battle royale in Civil War where T'Challa pauses and think to himself "Dammit, I'm in the middle of a honky hoedown"

El Tomboto, Sunday, 5 November 2017 01:36 (six months ago) Permalink

trying not to get too hype for this after being mildly let down by ragnarok but it’s not working tbh

wow. that was truly the minecraft of sex. (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 13 November 2017 18:31 (six months ago) Permalink

XP justifies those Hobbit movies imo

eeshTrip (darraghmac), Monday, 13 November 2017 18:32 (six months ago) Permalink

man, imagine the numbers if it had been woke in the right way

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 10 March 2018 23:16 (two months ago) Permalink

Imagine a world where people are critiquing a movie without concern for the box office bottom line because that’s how normal people interact with film

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 11 March 2018 04:09 (two months ago) Permalink


I don't really get ppl casting Killmonger as some sort of valid depiction of black radicalism or whatever: dude's main motivation is revenge, and his objective is world domination (non-white parts of the world included). That he's also a victim of racism adds depth to the character but it doesn't make him a good stand-in for any kind of political thought, at the end of the day he's a comic book super villain.

Of course his character’s methodology and end game are awful but ... that’s what I mean about thumbing the scales. It sets up an unfair status quo and conflates revolutionary response with world domination, as if the only alternative to “foreign aid” style liberalism was being “just as bad but in reverse”; pathologizes the diasporic revolutionary as somehow “damaged” & irrational (due to the home country’s original sin, sure, but still pathologized) when his mo for most of the film (if not his stated end game) was entirely rational. The film took the safe route, making the hero an Obama type figure instead of a revolutionary, suggesting the revolutionary was while important as a tool for getting the country to open up to the outside world, too radical to be taken seriously.

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 11 March 2018 04:16 (two months ago) Permalink

It’s not that the movie is “wrong” as much as “lacks the imagination to envision a world in which things were truly different”

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 11 March 2018 04:17 (two months ago) Permalink

9th highest domestic gross of all time. 9th. Of all time.

unless you adjust for ticket prices, of course, which exposes the ESPN-style thing of "all time" beginning in 1998

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 March 2018 04:18 (two months ago) Permalink

The film took the safe route, making the hero an Obama type figure instead of a revolutionary, suggesting the revolutionary was while important as a tool for getting the country to open up to the outside world, too radical to be taken seriously.

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:16 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this is a nice summation. i think there are ways that a bp movie could really dig into these complexities but hey this is marvel studios, i'm going to take "script was vaguely aware of current geopolitical climate" as a success.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 11 March 2018 04:49 (two months ago) Permalink

Thank u for lifting the scales of unadjusted gross from mine eyes, Morbs. Colors are brighter, food tastes richer, etc.

Apologies, all: Black Panther still has a ways to go before it clears the unassailably-adjusted heights of The Bank Dick (which I believe did about $78 trillion in 2018 dollars).

Ape Wipes (Old Lunch), Sunday, 11 March 2018 05:14 (two months ago) Permalink

It's Gone with the wind, it's always Gone with the Wind.

(though adjusted Black Panther is about 13 places behind 1945's The Bells of St Mary's which I understand is a short film about the correct use of apostrophes)

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 11 March 2018 10:44 (two months ago) Permalink

It’s not that the movie is “wrong” as much as “lacks the imagination to envision a world in which things were truly different”

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, March 11, 2018 4:17 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Could turn turn that around and say its a failure on the part of those pushing this view, to imagine what it would actually mean for there to be a nation of black people untouched by white supremacy.

So much of the joy that people talked about on leaving the cinema came simply from having experienced a version of our history where blackness isn't reified through the prism of whiteness. Think about how truly rare that is for a second and understand why so few of the rules and tropes we're used to playing with don't make any sense here.

It's so telling how eager these critical takes have been to frame the conflict in the movie as a fight to protect whites, because it's completely counterintuitive to imagine blackness outside that dialectic. But what relevance do CIA machinations have to an African country that exists in isolation? What does a black revolutionary mean to a nation of black people that haven't experienced oppression? And what relevance can a Wakanda that didn't heed Nkrumah, didn't read Fanon and didn't meet Malcolm, have to the broader black struggle?

And for that matter it's not ok that the notion of black revolution and what that means isn't being interrogated here. Why is it taken for granted that such a nebulous impulse has genuine currency amongst black people and should be taken at face value, while what bloodthirsty leaders and internal conflict has actually meant for so many African countries over the last 60 years is ignored?

tsrobodo, Sunday, 11 March 2018 14:15 (two months ago) Permalink

Those are some really great points. It's easy to forget that the issues of race we've experienced are not inherent and inevitable and that race itself is a spurious construct. Questions of what a truly aracial civilization might look like and how that civilization might respond when faced with the impact of race on the larger world are not really anything I expect a Marvel movie to parse in depth. I think they took a pretty solid swipe at it.

Ape Wipes (Old Lunch), Sunday, 11 March 2018 15:54 (two months ago) Permalink

To be clear, I’m not saying the film was inherently bad or disposable for taking the path it did, and as a white person I’m certainly not suggesting I know the “right” way to portray an African revolutionary cause on screen ... in many ways i felt like this is one of the only action films in recent memeory which seems engaged with relevant issues in the real world and don’t mean to undercut that

but tsrobodo, wasn’t there something a little...underwhelming about that conclusion, a kind of vague, generalized “outreach” ? Did that not feel just a little emotionally pat?

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 11 March 2018 17:21 (two months ago) Permalink

I do agree that there’s something American-myopic about the revolutionary focus maybe but the film itself doesn’t seem super tied up in African politics today

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 11 March 2018 17:23 (two months ago) Permalink

Tbc I’m not trying to argue for the movie being good or bad as much as I am interested in unpacking the ideology arguments it makes or doesn’t make, looking at where the limits of its imagination are w/r/t that ideology

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 11 March 2018 22:22 (two months ago) Permalink

It already has to try and explain vibranium’s paradoxical relationship with infrasound — the explanation of pan-African politics, America’s disgusting post-Reconstruction record, our “soft empire” and exceptionalist / interventionist foreign policy approaches ended up on the cutting room floor.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 11 March 2018 22:39 (two months ago) Permalink

but tsrobodo, wasn’t there something a little...underwhelming about that conclusion, a kind of vague, generalized “outreach” ? Did that not feel just a little emotionally pat?

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, March 11, 2018 5:21 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Honestly? Not really.

It's entirely consistent with the specifics of the plot:

Black Panther father kills brother, abandoning nephew to discover his cold corpse.
Black Panther son seeks to atone by reaching out to those who grew up like his cousin, starting at the place of original sin.

Trite? probably, but I don't see what more you could reasonably expect.

Black Panther comics, for that matter, have never been about the African experience - at least not to an African. Hasn’t stopped me loving them over the years but, that is loving them with an understanding of how limited the premise is as a vehicle for broad, political and cultural allegory.

― tsrobodo, Friday, February 23, 2018 12:27 AM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I go back to this because in fairness they do really skirt the line here. The movie incorporates concepts and ideas that the scope of the story is not equal to but rather than these passes constituting a genuine argument I see it as grounding the movie in our lived realities so that its emotional beats hit harder.

People forget that Wakanda is no less mystical and fantastical than Thor's Asgard, but because 'Africa' as anything other than a place where children starve, wildlife rules and terrorists kidnap schoolgirls is completely absent from the public imagination, Wakanda in all its allure and visual glory functions as a stand-in and ends up being afforded a realism that it can't possibly live up to. I have to imagine any disappointment with the direction taken stems in part from that.

tsrobodo, Monday, 12 March 2018 12:49 (two months ago) Permalink

Best Coogler decision was to kill Killmonger so that other marvel productions don't ruin him.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:58 (two months ago) Permalink

comix killmonger has died more than once iirc

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 04:22 (two months ago) Permalink

so i just got back from visiting my family on vacation

my mom spent most of my visit with her complaining that "black panther" was monarchist propaganda

my mom hasn't seen this movie and, as if it need be said, isn't particularly much of a comics reader

i offer this information in the hopes that it may provides some amelioriation, or at least sympathetic backdrop, to my own frequently-expressed uninformed crackpot theories

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 22:59 (one month ago) Permalink

two hours of propaganda for Big Vibranium imo

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 02:01 (one month ago) Permalink

to be the first film released in saudi arabia in 35 years

https://shadowandact.com/black-panther-breaks-saudi-arabia-cinema-ban

ogmor, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:51 (one month ago) Permalink

When does this open in the US?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:47 (one month ago) Permalink

it's banned in the contiguous united states iirc, gotta get yrself to alaska and/or hawaii to see it

star wars ep viii: the bay of porgs (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:49 (one month ago) Permalink

Will Moviepass cover plane tickets?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:03 (one month ago) Permalink

i dunno dude, i think you’ll need to contact their customer service desk

star wars ep viii: the bay of porgs (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:15 (one month ago) Permalink

this is gold guys

scotti pruitti (wins), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:35 (one month ago) Permalink

honestly feeling so attacked rn

star wars ep viii: the bay of porgs (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:36 (one month ago) Permalink

Here we go...

https://io9.gizmodo.com/black-panther-is-coming-home-in-may-complete-with-dele-1825147215

Director’s Intro
From Page to Screen: A Roundtable Discussion - Delve into the film’s making
Crowning of a New King – Explore the world of Black Panther in all its color and complexity
The Warriors Within – Get to know Wakanda’s women and the actors who portray them
The Hidden Kingdom Revealed – Wakanda’s diverse people
Wakanda Revealed: Exploring the Technology
Gag Reel
Exclusive Sneak Peek at Ant-Man and The Wasp
Marvel Studios the First Ten Years: Connecting the Universe
Director’s Commentary

Then the deleted scenes:

U.N. Meet and Greet
Okoye And W’Kabi Discuss the Future of Wakanda
T’Challa Remembers His Father
Voices from the Past

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 21:48 (one month ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

so this has topped the most recent Star Wars for worldwide box office

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 5 May 2018 22:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

seeing that news prompted me to finally watch this. 30 mins in and im already loving it. so many questions already, so many different ways you can look at this, all the conflicting motivations, etc. visually it is super stunning with lots of things that it feels like i have never seen before. love that the conflict of isolationism y/n of Wakanda is one of the film's central themes. also that first scene in the museum was brilliant.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 5 May 2018 23:34 (two weeks ago) Permalink

not that yr takes aren't predictably wrong/awful but lets hold of on judgement until youve seen the entire mess

thought the cgi was notably awful in this btw

.b derf (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 May 2018 23:38 (two weeks ago) Permalink

spoilers for adam ahead --

as undercooked as the climax of this is (viz vagueness of the "threat" actually driving the action) at this point the only thing that really bugs me about it is how everything hinges on BP giving his friends and government the vaguest possible description of what happened with klaw in Busan. iirc it's just like "he got away" which is almost at the level of the pronouncements made by the doctor on arrested development. he really doesn't think it's worth informing anybody that klaw has a wakandan collaborator? this is a crucial new clue and something everybody needs to be on the lookout for. at the very least you'd think he'd want to exonerate himself a little. it's a small line but it's really forced plotting.

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 6 May 2018 00:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Did they know Killmonger was Wakandan at that point? I thought everyone was laboring under the assumption that he was African American.

808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Sunday, 6 May 2018 00:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

didn't he show off the tattoo? i mean I'd still let them know anyway. it's valuable klaw intelligence.

movie was p cool anyway tho, I had a post about this but I lost it. maybe later.

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 6 May 2018 01:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

man that was amazing. i almost teared up at 2 or 3 spots. Killmonger indeed one of the most sympathetic villains ever. for months i have been hearing arguments about who is the real villain and who is the real hero. personally i liked both of them and thought the film did a good job of letting the viewer decide.

i like the symmetry of the challenge, having them first fight without BP power and then at the end both of them have BP power when they fight again. i thought the concept of the challenge was good because the king's authority wasn't derived from a magical plant.

fwiw i was not bothered by the CGI at all. i loved the blacklight world stuff. i loved the gadgets too, it was almost like a James Bond at points. it is a really well-written movie that just flew by! there was a lot of drama but also some good comedic moments to lighten it up. great film, easily one of the best comic films.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 6 May 2018 01:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

(viz vagueness of the "threat" actually driving the action)

yeah the movie maybe could have had some establishing shots of warlords around the world getting ready for weapons shipments or something but then again that would have put more importance on Martin Freeman's heroic turn when the movie really isn't about him. tbh i was afraid the ending would have them handing over tech to the CIA (tho i guess that is still a plot thread, it would have been a massively bummer ending)

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 6 May 2018 01:25 (two weeks ago) Permalink

so this has topped the most recent Star Wars for worldwide box office

seeing that news prompted me to finally watch this

game over

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 6 May 2018 01:27 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Imagining that in Denzel Virtuosity voice

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 May 2018 01:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Rewatched it last night & still love it

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 May 2018 01:59 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah this, Ragnarok and Infinity Wars ( and Himecoming) have been a wonderful streak of totally entertaining, supreme comic book films that actually feel like the comics. Just when I was getting bored...

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 6 May 2018 03:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the things i like the most are the things I like abt Coogler in general
- the story’s heart is sons & fathers
- there’s depth & humanity in the characters, you see backstory in the most subtle interactions
- the humor that pops up in the most unexpected & delightful places

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 May 2018 03:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Shuri is a very necessary addition to the MCU if for no other reason than somebody has to be female, a genius, AND be able to make jokes. This became very apparent to me after Infinity War.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 6 May 2018 04:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

In that vein, I am suddenly hoping very hard for a Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur movie. When a tree and a raccoon rabbit become megastars, no weird idea is outside the realm of possibility.

Love Theme From Oh God! You Devil (Old Lunch), Sunday, 6 May 2018 04:18 (two weeks ago) Permalink

WHAT ARE THOOOOOOSE still makes me lol so hard

and when Shuri puts her hand up like she wants to battle him but is actually just complaining that her corset is too tight & can we plz go now <3

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 May 2018 04:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

looking forward to Coogler's commentary on the movie

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 May 2018 04:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

RABBIT! is somehow my favorite bit from A:IW

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 6 May 2018 04:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

And the best part about it is that, while Rocket gets snappish towards pretty much everyone who comments on or speculates about his specieshood, he totally just rolls with Thor calling him a rabbit.

Love Theme From Oh God! You Devil (Old Lunch), Sunday, 6 May 2018 04:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Wrong thread but whatevs. All these peeps are at last joined together.

Love Theme From Oh God! You Devil (Old Lunch), Sunday, 6 May 2018 04:25 (two weeks ago) Permalink

WHAT ARE THOOOOOOSE still makes me lol so hard

yes i laughed out loud at this! also "I call them sneakers".

Shuri was VIP at the jokes wo taking you completely out of it or detracting from the heavy moments. in fact it felt more like a regular/non-superhero person would react, which kind of made it all the more real. here's hoping she is in many Marvel films to come.

also i enjoyed the visual gag of the car disintegrating around Nakia and having her clutching the steering wheel like in an old cartoon. in a way it felt like a comedic pay-off to the awesome spectacle of the vibranium spear stopping that SUV like it had hit a brick wall.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 6 May 2018 13:59 (two weeks ago) Permalink

so yeah i dug this movie! a $200 million popcorn flick with a nearly all-black cast, who get to play interesting and complex characters, where "colonizer" is said multiple times, where in the first five minutes a black leader in oakland points out (if you want to hear it) that the real-life black panthers were marginalized and murdered by the state, where the whole thing is devoted to a fantastic what-if of an uncolonized africa... ok sure martin freeman's character is terrible and the space given to a meddling CIA spook shooting down black revolutionaries (!) should have been given over to making killmonger's plan (and bp's objection to it) just slightly clearer, or doing some street-level wakandan world-building (the palace drama setting kinda makes the place feel unreal, undercutting the protect-our-way-of-life stuff).... but whatever!!! all the action scenes were actually interesting and exciting and you didn't know how they would end, the design work was awesome, the supporting cast was awesome, the jokes were actually funny and built the characters, michael b killllllllled it from that museum scene on, and even miniboss serkis as neocolonial resource extractor was miles more interesting than the main baddies of most of these films. though i do wish he had gotten turned into living sound and started rhyming brainlessly at killmonger like he does with doctor doom in secret wars, oh well. having him be a wannabe rapper was a nice way of alluding to that while also cementing his rep as cultural appropriator.

also there was just something about seeing a big movie that felt like a real event, bigger than star wars in terms of the general public giving a shit about it. the lines going into every screening of this were NUTS in nyc. i got a little teary thinking about little kids who have not one but like five new awesome black characters to identify with, have toys of, daydream about. and to know that those characters are actually super popular with the public as a whole and not some underbudgeted side thing. how great is that? and it's an actual conversation starter. even if you ultimately kind of think killmonger is right and that BP's little community outreach program seems reeeeeal weak, you get to argue about that afterwards! the movie is about actual things, it has unresolved questions on its mind beyond whether the heroes will believe in themselves and stop somebody with a big blue laser that's going to turn everybody into panthers or whatever. whatever its flaws, that alone puts most of this genre to shame.

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 6 May 2018 16:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink

^^^I'm doing this because we're not on FB and thus I can't heart your post, DC.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 6 May 2018 16:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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