Personally, my only problem with these two movies is that Marvel waited so long to make them that my enthusiasm has waned after a couple total duds and a growing fatigue with the genre.
for real for real. i am sorry i ever read a comic book in the first place.― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, February 9, 2018 1:08 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah this totally...like i just...can't watch fucking comic book movies anymore, i last tried w/wonder woman but just lost interest a quarter way through (and it's probably a fine movie)
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 February 2018 21:00 (six years ago) link
That’s why I liked Thor: Ragnarok so much as Taika Waititi seems to have deliberately put stuff into the film just to fuck with the standard presentation(casting Jeff Goldblum to be Jeff Goldblum, deliberately writing a Kirby-CGI rock monster part for himself with his native accent, the “shoulda brought more pamphlets” bits, etc)
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 9 February 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link
remember back when we didn't really have a "standard presentation" for these things
― mh, Friday, 9 February 2018 21:52 (six years ago) link
...no?
― WilliamC, Friday, 9 February 2018 21:54 (six years ago) link
I mean, on a basic level for Marvel junk the answer is "before they made Iron Man" because their productions have a somewhat enforced consistency in tone. DC has slightly different problems.
The big comic movie thing that made it clear to me that there's been a big shift in formula over the years was WB thinking Bryan Singer's attempt to seamlessly reboot Superman from the past franchise, when comic book movies were not really using that template, fell flat.
― mh, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:10 (six years ago) link
at this point we're yet another decade past and a Christopher Reeve style of Superman would probably seem fresh and intriguing
― mh, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:11 (six years ago) link
pointless (BUT INTRIGUING!) question: is Michael B Jordan the first actor to cross over from a non-canonical Marvel movie into a Cinematic Marvel Universe film as a different character?
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 9 February 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link
Not entirely if you think about Josh Brolin's upcoming May here.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:35 (six years ago) link
xp: Chris Evans did it too, and also crossed over from playing Human Torch in a non-MCU Fantstic Four movie.
― JRN, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:37 (six years ago) link
oh yeah, i forgot about evans as the human torch... also jordan as human torch!xp I know Brolin is Cable... who was he in the noncanonical films?
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 9 February 2018 22:39 (six years ago) link
Well what's the definition of noncanonical? MCU = Thanos; Fox/Marvel = Cable.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:40 (six years ago) link
i guess i thought deadpool was canonical. didn't realize it wasn't... except now it is! wheeeeeeee
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 9 February 2018 22:42 (six years ago) link
it's maybe canonical in the Fox mutantverse
which still has absolutely nothing to do with the Avengers
― mh, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:46 (six years ago) link
so they still have to kinda flip a switch and say deadpool is part of disney? that's presumably the plot of deadpool 3: the canonsolidation
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 9 February 2018 23:43 (six years ago) link
it’s really doubtful they’ll combine their projects, it’d be a soft or full reboot, or right before both ventures die in a fire, they’ll combine everything for no reasonthey pushed back the new mutants movie until next year (??) so maybe they’re considering cutting all the fox x-men references out, doing minor reshoots, and making that the first marvel movie universe one
― mh, Saturday, 10 February 2018 00:27 (six years ago) link
Priest's review from the premiere, with reference to McGregor.
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Saturday, 10 February 2018 09:11 (six years ago) link
Entirely unsurprising news: this is great.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:51 (six years ago) link
Two days to go! For me at least.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:59 (six years ago) link
thanks for that Priest link; fun to see his takes!
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 02:44 (six years ago) link
No spoilers but... Michael B Jordan is a distractingly good-looking villain.
Also the best MCU villain so far, with apologies to another Michael (Keaton).
― Roz, Thursday, 15 February 2018 13:24 (six years ago) link
this was dope
"DUDE, IT'S A BUGATTI SPACESHIP!"
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 February 2018 04:33 (six years ago) link
seeing this midday tomorrow cannot waaaaaaait
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 February 2018 04:41 (six years ago) link
Andy Serkis was p funny
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 February 2018 04:42 (six years ago) link
So damn good.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 February 2018 05:25 (six years ago) link
so so so good
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 16 February 2018 06:48 (six years ago) link
ps wales is now the wakanda* of the UK (see flag on far right of picture)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWHjvvlX0AExsFf.jpg
*small, hides itself away, will one day rule the world
― mark s, Friday, 16 February 2018 10:52 (six years ago) link
In a lot of trouble when mining stops.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 16 February 2018 11:00 (six years ago) link
Ha
― rum dmc (darraghmac), Friday, 16 February 2018 11:09 (six years ago) link
this is great. wonder woman great. christopher nolan batman movies great. letitia wright is phenomenal
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 16 February 2018 12:03 (six years ago) link
wonder woman great. christopher nolan batman movies great.
so it's... not great?
― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 February 2018 12:05 (six years ago) link
it's great. flash gordon great. superman ii great
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 16 February 2018 12:23 (six years ago) link
now you're fuckin talking
was already psyched to see this, glad to see folks here are feeling positive about it
― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 February 2018 12:35 (six years ago) link
The running time, as usual for superhero movies, gives me pause.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 February 2018 12:59 (six years ago) link
as an inordinately impatient flibbertygibbet of a gemini i have to say i didn't feel the length at all
― mark s, Friday, 16 February 2018 13:02 (six years ago) link
never mind the length, feel the width
― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 February 2018 13:03 (six years ago) link
length only drags at the beginning, in the slower moments when they're not in wakanda. otherwise, i was sucked in and completely unaware of time
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 16 February 2018 13:15 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I am amazed that it's that long, it feels a half-hour shorter.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 16 February 2018 13:46 (six years ago) link
this is great. wonder woman great. christopher nolan batman movies great.
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 16 February 2018 12:03 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Ah good.Wait what?Wait, what?
― rum dmc (darraghmac), Friday, 16 February 2018 14:45 (six years ago) link
yeah sorry reggie that's madness
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 February 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link
I'm w Alfred on the running times is comic movies. every movie is sooooo long for no reason.also I'll just assume the last 20 is a big pointless CG battle
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 February 2018 15:59 (six years ago) link
wakanda's mythic grandeur feels authentic like the greek accents in themyscira
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 16 February 2018 16:03 (six years ago) link
I'm w Alfred on the running times is comic movies. every movie is sooooo long for no reason.yeah, Wilson was an hour forty, could have been an hour twenty-nine easy
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Friday, 16 February 2018 16:17 (six years ago) link
I don't care for superhero movies, but I adore Lupita N'yongo - is it a big role?
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 16 February 2018 16:29 (six years ago) link
Yes, although Danai Gurira steals the film.
― Chris L, Friday, 16 February 2018 16:34 (six years ago) link
Unlike other overstuffed superhero movies I've seen, I didn't mind the running time because I wanted to keep seeing more of the world they created.
― Chris L, Friday, 16 February 2018 16:37 (six years ago) link
I was already ready for her to steal the film and she did, so for me the REAL film-stealer was Letitia Wright.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 February 2018 16:48 (six years ago) link
Tempted to check this out, although I'm usually disappointed by the hyped superhero movies. But this one looks more stylish than usual.
― jmm, Friday, 16 February 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link
Anyway yes there's formula at work of course -- Christopher Priest rightly pointed that out in his otherwise wall to wall rave -- but the comparatively focused Big (Intercut) Battle Sequence at the end works well precisely because of how smallish in scale it is. There's a big group battle but not armies, for instance. The wider implications of what happens if Black Panther and company lose lends it all heft without having to demonstrate it in full.
(And I have to say 'Black Panther and company' rather than the 'good guys' because man do Coogler and company do a hell of a job in setting up Erik Killmonger as damaged product of a society who also has more than one damn good point to make throughout the film.)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 February 2018 16:53 (six years ago) link
Anyway, getting back to Wright, her Q Branch scene alone was top notch. Hell, she should be the next Q if Ben W. wants to do something else.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 February 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link
all bond films are bad so no
plus the Q scenes are always the ones that should be cut first (followed by every other scene)
― mark s, Friday, 16 February 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link