Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:07 (six months ago) Permalink

good luck donald trump

imago, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:07 (six months ago) Permalink

Ten-year-old nabisco offTM:

Here's something funny: when I was ten years old I had a vague admiration for Donald Trump and Lee Iacocca (both very feted at the time) and a downright intense love of Alex P. Keaton from Family Ties, who I didn't understand to be something of a joke. As such, despite having really liked Mondale -- having a woman as a running mate impressed me, probably because of the mother/father dynamic of it -- I was convinced that I wanted to be a Republican and a businessman or lawyer of some sort. In fact, I started a "company" with my friends Brian and Jeff -- we made board games, and hired Tony, the best breakdancer I have ever known, to do the art -- and I was constantly attempting to read the law and economics books in my father's library. Everyone seemed to think this was "cute," though I sort of wish someone had just explained politics to me. In either case, I got over it quickly and went back to wanting to be a writer.


― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, June 14, 2003 1:28 PM (fourteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I Love It When They Call Me Big Pharma (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:12 (six months ago) Permalink

i suppose 'classic' in that he's all a lot of people can think about or talk about and his brain dmamage is so powerful it's infected the world

p bad president and person tho

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:45 (six months ago) Permalink

takes balls to rock that combover day in and out

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:47 (six months ago) Permalink

I can see the blood from the man-flesh on his teeth!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:48 (six months ago) Permalink

What you lookin' at?
You all a bunch of fuckin' assholes. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you wanna be?
You need people like me. You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say,
"That's the bad guy.
" So... what that make you? Good? You're not good.
You just know how to hide, how to lie. Me, I don't have that problem. Me, I always tell the truth. Even when I lie.
So say good night to the bad guy!
Come on. The last time you gonna see a bad guy like this again, let me tell you.
Come on. Make way for the bad guy. There's a bad guy comin' through! Better get outta his way!

sleepingbag, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:49 (six months ago) Permalink

You certainly don't, pal, 'cause the good news is - you're fired. The bad news is - you've got, all of you've got just one week to regain your jobs starting with tonight. Starting with tonight's sit. Oh? Have I got your attention now? Good. 'Cause we're adding a little something to this month's sales contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anyone wanna see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired. Get the picture? You laughing now? You got leads. Mitch and Murray paid good money, get their names to sell them; you can't close the leads you're given, you can't close shit. You ARE shit! Hit the bricks, pal, and beat it 'cause you are going OUT!

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:55 (six months ago) Permalink

Search: "move on her like a bitch"

Destroy: everything else

flappy bird, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:56 (six months ago) Permalink

"Trump never said he had tapes, he just inferred that he did. And it is not intimidating a witness since Comey is telling the truth and knew that any tapes would prove his version of events."

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:03 (six months ago) Permalink

everyone is classic but not everyone should be president

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:05 (six months ago) Permalink

President Don once had a dream
The world held his hand, gave their pledge
So he told them his scheme for a savior machine

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 June 2017 19:09 (six months ago) Permalink

Trump lingered last in line for brains
And the one he got was sorta rotten and insane
Small hands (so sad!), a rust-hued clown
Is Trump fast asleep or rockin' out with Three Doors Down?

you yourself have seen plenty bananas in your life (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 June 2017 19:25 (six months ago) Permalink

haven't thought about this guy for a while. i think he was popular in the 80s?

Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 19:50 (six months ago) Permalink


jmm, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:13 (six months ago) Permalink

I think he'd make really great hog slurry. You can really tell a lot about a man by the way his pureed corpus fills a trough.

you yourself have seen plenty bananas in your life (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:16 (six months ago) Permalink

red means 'run, son. numbers add up to nothin'
. . .
shelter me from the putin and the banker
i bankrupted casinos. who the fuck does that?

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 June 2017 22:13 (six months ago) Permalink


korla pundit (crüt), Friday, 23 June 2017 02:05 (six months ago) Permalink


The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Friday, 23 June 2017 02:22 (six months ago) Permalink

wasting his finite reserves of energy there

El Tomboto, Friday, 23 June 2017 02:23 (six months ago) Permalink


Treeship, Friday, 23 June 2017 03:16 (six months ago) Permalink

Like a hastily-assembled meat collage.

you yourself have seen plenty bananas in your life (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 June 2017 10:25 (six months ago) Permalink

hard to tell who is more obsessed with him the right or the left.

also the media love/hate thing is so cute. get a room you two.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 23 June 2017 11:09 (six months ago) Permalink

“I was the first & only potential GOP candidate to state there will be no cuts to Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid. Huckabee copied me.”

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 June 2017 11:38 (six months ago) Permalink

He is only as wicked and hellspawned as the hatred and resentment simmering in the heartland of the most violent nation ever

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Friday, 23 June 2017 13:50 (six months ago) Permalink

I think you might need to look into a thing called history if you think this is the most violent nation ever.

you yourself have seen plenty bananas in your life (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 June 2017 13:52 (six months ago) Permalink

you suggest Panama?

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Friday, 23 June 2017 15:43 (six months ago) Permalink

the 1997 NYer profile of Trump is start-to-finish amazing but if I had to pick a favorite part it's this

— Rosie Gray (@RosieGray) June 23, 2017

BlackIronPrison, Friday, 23 June 2017 15:44 (six months ago) Permalink

hard to tell who is more obsessed with him the right or the left.

libs/"centrists" for sure

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 23 June 2017 16:09 (six months ago) Permalink

it's sobering to realize that Trump is probably the most famous person in human history now

flappy bird, Friday, 23 June 2017 18:13 (six months ago) Permalink

*not adjusted for population inflation

flappy bird, Friday, 23 June 2017 18:14 (six months ago) Permalink

indicative of a deep flaw in our universe

global tetrahedron, Friday, 23 June 2017 18:19 (six months ago) Permalink

truly he is king of the narcissist personality disorder sufferers

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 23 June 2017 18:24 (six months ago) Permalink

i think jesus still beats him out unless we're only counting contemporaneous fame

ciderpress, Friday, 23 June 2017 18:26 (six months ago) Permalink

Michael Jackson sold a hundred million records

frogbs, Friday, 23 June 2017 18:26 (six months ago) Permalink

contemporaneous fame. MJ is up there but there are twice as many people on Earth now than there were in 1984.

flappy bird, Friday, 23 June 2017 18:30 (six months ago) Permalink

Donlad Turmp sold a hundred million and one. Sad!

President Buttstuff (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 June 2017 18:30 (six months ago) Permalink

Part of my problem is that I have to do a lot of things myself. It takes so much time. Julio Iglesias is coming to Mar-a-Lago, but I have to call Julio, I have to have lunch with Julio. I have Pavarotti coming. Pavarotti doesn’t perform for anybody. He’s the highest-paid performer in the world. A million dollars a performance. The hardest guy to get. If I call him, he’ll do it—for a huge amount less. Why? Because they like me, they respect me, I don’t know.

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 June 2017 20:34 (six months ago) Permalink

I think you might need to look into a thing called history if you think this is the most violent nation ever.

idk Native American genocide plus slavery plus nuclear bomb-dropping... surely we're in the running

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 June 2017 20:42 (six months ago) Permalink

probably a million people killed by u.s. in vietnam/laos/cambodia. nobody will ever know how many. not pol pot numbers, but still...

mao would be the world champ though.

scott seward, Friday, 23 June 2017 21:19 (six months ago) Permalink

it's sobering to realize that Trump is probably the most famous person in human history now

this is a ridiculous statement

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 June 2017 21:24 (six months ago) Permalink

Man, if only Trump would tweet that he's bigger than Jesus...

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 June 2017 21:43 (six months ago) Permalink

well he's certainly fatter

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 June 2017 21:48 (six months ago) Permalink

Some people just turn out fuckin' wrong. Inexorably-broken and irredeemable because they see nothing problematic about their brokenness. Nothing but a sour and twisted mockery of humanity. You just hope people like that never get their hands on actual power, y'know?

what is wrong with a nation that, even through the quirks of the electoral college, sees this man worthy of such power? how can so many people see this man and not be repulsed by him, not think him unworthy of even being elected dog-catcher?

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Saturday, 4 November 2017 19:01 (two months ago) Permalink

because they're racist / sexist pieces of shit, and *hated* the black president and the thought of a chick in the white house even more than the sane among us are grossed out by destructive silver spoon slobs?

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 4 November 2017 19:14 (two months ago) Permalink

Imagine going all the way to Japan and eating a hamburger at a country club

— Josh Billinson (@jbillinson) November 5, 2017

j., Sunday, 5 November 2017 22:39 (two months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

the president will blow a gasket if there's no statement of exoneration by year's end

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 03:54 (one month ago) Permalink

why not? he blows a gasket pretty often. several times a week afaics.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 04:01 (one month ago) Permalink

maybe he'll finally have a stroke and die

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 December 2017 00:13 (one month ago) Permalink

but then they probably still won't remove him from office

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 December 2017 00:13 (one month ago) Permalink

his higher brain functions died a long time ago

hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 00:14 (one month ago) Permalink

you don't have to live like a refu-jesus mr. potus

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 December 2017 00:26 (one month ago) Permalink

i know photo editors can be pretty manipulative but doesn't it seem like trump's photographed facial expressions have become consistently like this in the past couple months, like he's straining under the desperate prevarication and fabrication as he senses no one around is even paying it lip service now?

j., Saturday, 2 December 2017 02:29 (one month ago) Permalink


— Annie Shields (@anastasiakeeley) December 2, 2017

j., Sunday, 3 December 2017 04:13 (one month ago) Permalink

The parties that will be had when this fuck’s heart explodes

circa1916, Sunday, 3 December 2017 04:48 (one month ago) Permalink

The thought of Trump's aorta popping from one too many Big Macs has an appealing vibe of self-correction by America's excesses.

(with all due respect to the millions of decent and enlightened people in the USA)

attention vampire (MatthewK), Sunday, 3 December 2017 06:33 (one month ago) Permalink

naw you're right we're trash

j., Sunday, 3 December 2017 06:46 (one month ago) Permalink

The Republican Party can no longer claim to be the party of fiscal responsibility, strong foreign policy, or family values :(

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 4 December 2017 21:00 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Fantastic technique. This is...freeze it here. Look at this: two hands, alpha scrunch, lapping away like a dang kitty cat. He's just having fun out there.

— David Roth (@david_j_roth) December 18, 2017

j., Monday, 18 December 2017 21:35 (one month ago) Permalink

flappy bird, Monday, 18 December 2017 23:22 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

"Impatience resulted in Trump’s orange-blond hair color."

She treated her father with a degree of detachment, even irony, going so far as to make fun of his comb-over to others. She often described the mechanics behind it to friends: an absolutely clean pate — a contained island after scalp-reduction ­surgery — surrounded by a furry circle of hair around the sides and front, from which all ends are drawn up to meet in the center and then swept back and secured by a stiffening spray. The color, she would point out to comical effect, was from a product called Just for Men — the longer it was left on, the darker it got.

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I enjoyed that piece, and even went to preorder the book, but Wolff has a history of making up quotes and exaggerating, so I think I'll skip buying it. Honestly I don't care that much about Trump once he got into office - I want to read a whole book about election night, and the hours when Trump and everyone around him realized they were going to win.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:31 (two weeks ago) Permalink

wolff's history notwithstanding, 1/2 term's pretty blistering attack on bannon suggests 1/2 term thinks wolff's on the level. apparently wolff was the tom yeats to donald and melania's francis and claire underwood? who knows though -- he could even be in on it. 1/2 term has a new excuse now -- i didn't really want to win, so why would i conspire with russia?

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:43 (two weeks ago) Permalink

lol "1/2 term"? is that the new "45"?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

and that's a weak excuse, and we all know he absolutely did not expect or want to win the election

flappy bird, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

At Mar-a-Lago, just before the new year, a heavily made-up Trump failed to recognize a succession of old friends.

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 4 January 2018 14:18 (two weeks ago) Permalink

"Jokes on them--I don't have any friends!"

Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 January 2018 15:37 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Maybe he didn't recognize them because they were all heavily made up?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 January 2018 15:42 (two weeks ago) Permalink

"Rudy? GTFO, you're not Rudy!"

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 January 2018 15:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The monthly average of 171,000 jobs created in 2017 was the lowest average monthly job growth since 2010, when just 88,000 jobs were added per month.

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 5 January 2018 23:27 (one week ago) Permalink

Bannon described Trump as a simple machine. The On switch was full of flattery, the Off switch full of calumny. The flattery was dripping, slavish, cast in ultimate superlatives, and entirely disconnected from reality: so-and-so was the best, the most incredible, the ne plus ultra, the eternal. The calumny was angry, bitter, resentful, ever a casting out and closing of the iron door. [...] Bannon felt - perhaps with overconfidence - that Trump could easily be switched on and off.

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 6 January 2018 01:02 (one week ago) Permalink

So they were selling this book at Penn Station and — god I’m weak.

treeship 2, Saturday, 6 January 2018 01:18 (one week ago) Permalink

Previous presidents, and not just Clinton, have of course lacked scruples. What was, to many of the people who knew Trump well, much more confounding was that he had managed to win the election, and arrive at this ultimate accomplishment, wholly lacking what in some obvious sense must be the main requirement of the job, what neuroscientists would call executive function. He had somehow won the race for president, but his brain seemed incapable of performing what would be essential tasks in his new job. He had no ability to plan and organize and pay attention and switch focus; he had never been able to tailor his behavior to what the goals at hand reasonably required. On the most basic level, he simply could not link cause and effect.

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 6 January 2018 01:19 (one week ago) Permalink

god I’m weak

if you're experiencing buyer's remorse, sell it to a friend for 20% off retail. they'll tell you all the 'good' parts anyway.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 6 January 2018 01:20 (one week ago) Permalink

"As [Trump] got back on Marine One to head to Andrews Air Force Base and on to JFK and then into Manhattan and Trump Tower, [after addressing the Charlottesville murder], his mood was dark and I-told-you-so. Privately, he kept trying to rationalize why someone would be a member of the KKK -- that is, they might not actually believe what the KKK believed, and the KKK probably does not believe what it used to believe, and, anyway, who really knows what the KKK believes now?"

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 6 January 2018 01:58 (one week ago) Permalink

Once, coming back on his plane with a billionaire friend who had brought along a foreign model, Trump, trying to move in on his friend’s date, urged a stop in Atlantic City. He would provide a tour of his casino. His friend assured the model that there was nothing to recommend Atlantic City. It was a place overrun
by white trash.

“What is this ‘white trash’?” asked the model.

“They’re people just like me,” said Trump, “only they’re poor.”

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 7 January 2018 19:08 (one week ago) Permalink

“You know when I was young. Of course I feel young — I feel like I was 30 . . . 35 . . . 39 . . . . Somebody said, Are you young? I said, I think I’m young. I was stopping in the final months of the campaign, four stops, five stops, seven stops — speeches, speeches in front of twenty-five, thirty thousand people . . . fifteen, nineteen thousand. I feel young — I think we’re all so young. When I was young we were always winning things in this country. We’d win with trade, we’d win with wars — at a certain age I remember hearing from one of my instructors, the United States has never lost a war. And then, after that, it’s like we haven’t won anything. You know the old expression, to the victor belongs the spoils? You remember I always say, keep the oil.”

Who should keep the oil?” asked a bewildered CIA employee, leaning over to a colleague in the back of the room.

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 7 January 2018 21:01 (one week ago) Permalink

Ultimately Trump may not be that different in his fundamental solipsism from anyone of great wealth who has lived most of his life in a highly controlled environment. But one clear difference was that he had acquired almost no formal sort of social discipline — he could not even attempt to imitate decorum. He
could not really converse, for instance, not in the sense of sharing information, or of a balanced back-and-forth conversation. He neither particularly listened to what was said to him, nor particularly considered what he said in response (one reason he was so repetitive). Nor did he treat anyone with any sort of basic or reliable courtesy. If he wanted something, his focus might be sharp and attention lavish, but if someone wanted something from him, he tended to become irritable and quickly lost interest. He demanded you pay him attention, then decided you were weak for groveling. In a sense, he was like an instinctive, pampered, and hugely successful actor. Everybody was either a lackey who did his bidding or a high-ranking film functionary trying to coax out his attention and performance — and to do this without making him angry or petulant.

The payoff was his enthusiasm, quickness, spontaneity, and—if he departed for a moment from the nonstop focus on himself — an often incisive sense of the weaknesses of his opponents and a sense of their deepest desires. Politics was handicapped by incrementalism, of people knowing too much who were defeated by all the complexities and conflicting interests before they began. Trump, knowing little, might, Trumpers tried to believe, give a kooky new hope to the system.

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 7 January 2018 22:31 (one week ago) Permalink

1/2 term like totally used flynn as a primary russian go-between

A White House meeting that morning failed to convince Trump to fire Flynn. He was concerned about what it would look like to lose his National Security Advisor after just twenty-four days. And he was adamant about not wanting to blame Flynn for talking to the Russians, even about sanctions. In Trump’s view, condemning his adviser would connect him to a plot where there was no plot. His fury wasn’t directed toward Flynn but to the “incidental” wiretap that had surveilled him. Making clear his confidence in his adviser, Trump insisted that Flynn come to Monday’s lunch with the Canadian prime minister, Justin Trudeau.

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 8 January 2018 23:03 (one week ago) Permalink

just fuck the whole thing if this nominate Oprah thing gets any traction inside the DNC

Hadrian VIII, Monday, 8 January 2018 23:14 (one week ago) Permalink

i worked out how much it would cost, in 2021, to give every licensed american driver the equivalent of a 2004 pontiac G6 and it came to about 9.5 trillion

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 8 January 2018 23:18 (one week ago) Permalink

if you spread that out over two terms it's only about a trillion a year

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 8 January 2018 23:19 (one week ago) Permalink

but what would be truly extraordinary is the number of pontiac plants we'd have, and the sheer number of people required to work in them. we would be number one in pontiac plants per square mile and unemployment would probably be a thing of the past

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 8 January 2018 23:21 (one week ago) Permalink

Also, the taxes everyone would have to pay for getting free cars would pay for all sorts of other stuff! Downside: no one could sell their car, since everyone would have one already. The price we pay for the Pontiac Economy.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 January 2018 23:25 (one week ago) Permalink

worth it imo

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 8 January 2018 23:26 (one week ago) Permalink

Some thought him dyslexic; certainly his comprehension was limited. Others concluded that he didn’t read because he just didn’t have to, and that in fact this was one of his key attributes as a populist. He was postliterate — total television. But not only didn’t he read, he didn’t listen. He preferred to be the person talking. And he trusted his own expertise — no matter how paltry or irrelevant — more than anyone else’s. What’s more, he had an extremely short attention span, even when he thought you were worthy of attention.

it's like an alfred jarry play come to life

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 8 January 2018 23:27 (one week ago) Permalink

“What is this ‘white trash’?” asked the model.

“They’re people just like me,” said Trump, “only they’re poor.”

I might have to call bullshit on this quote because it betrays a gift for brutally honest self-assessment that I can't believe Trump possesses.

Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Monday, 8 January 2018 23:28 (one week ago) Permalink

that's a younger pre-senile 2scoops

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 8 January 2018 23:40 (one week ago) Permalink

He seemed to lack the ability to take in third-party information. Or maybe he lacked the interest; whichever, he seemed almost phobic about having formal demands on his attention. He stonewalled every written page and balked at every explanation. “He’s a guy who really hated school,” said Bannon. “And he’s not going to start liking it now.”

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 8 January 2018 23:44 (one week ago) Permalink

When Trump walked onto the field for the national anthem, he was greeted with a chorus of boos amidst scattered cheers, and struggled to remember the words to the Star-Spangled Banner he respects so much.


maura, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 02:56 (one week ago) Permalink

I totallt believe the “white trash” anecdote. Trump has always been aware that he wasn’t accepted by polite society. This is why he can convincingly (to some) rail against “elites” while being a billionaire. His brand isnas much about vulgarity as it is about glamour.

treeship 2, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:07 (one week ago) Permalink

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